Tech job seekers face hard times as industry resets

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The big picture: For decades, having a job in tech meant stability, regular raises, and lucrative perks. However, that has changed, perhaps permanently. The tech labor market is currently in upheaval, with firms letting go of employees by the thousands and tightening hiring requirements when they are looking to fill positions. The only safe space appears to be in AI.

Since the start of the year, more than 137,500 employees have been laid off from 438 tech companies, according to Layoffs.fyi. Meanwhile, postings for software development jobs have declined by over 30 percent since February 2020, according to Indeed.com.

Companies across the industry spectrum are cutting tech positions, including some of the largest names in the game. Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, and Microsoft have all downsized this year, along with eBay, Unity Software, SAP, Intel, PayPal, and Cisco.

Furthermore, employees who still have jobs are experiencing stagnant wage growth, according to Pequity, a compensation-planning startup. Wages have increased by an average of just 0.95 percent in 2024 compared to last year.

This is not new information for those in the industry seeking employment. Last year, over 260,000 workers across nearly 1,200 tech companies lost their jobs, making 2023 the second-largest year of layoffs on record in the technology sector, behind only the dot-com crash in 2001, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas.

"The market isn't what it once was," Roger Lee, creator of Layoffs.fyi, told CNBC. "To secure a new position, many salespeople and recruiters are leaving tech entirely. Even engineers are compromising – accepting roles with less stability, a tougher work environment, or lower pay and benefits."

The trend doesn't appear to be part of the typical cyclical fluctuations that characterize tech employment, either. The Wall Street Journal recently referred to it as a fundamental reset in an industry that is readjusting its labor needs.

Instead of focusing on growth at all costs, companies are now zeroing in on revenue-generating products and services in their hiring strategies. This shift means that sectors that weren't very profitable, such as virtual reality and devices, are facing significant cuts. Tech firms are also scaling back on entry-level hires and eliminating recruiting teams.

Companies that are hiring are now looking for engineers with a broader skill set, including collaboration abilities and a working knowledge of the company's AI strategy. Ryan Sutton, executive director of the technology practice group at staffing firm Robert Half, told The Wall Street Journal, "They want to see people who are more versatile."

AI is one of the few areas experiencing growth, perhaps not surprisingly. Individuals who have worked on large language models can easily find jobs with salaries reaching $1 million a year. AI engineers are being offered two to four times the salary of a regular engineer, according to Pequity CEO Kaitlyn Knopp. "That's an extreme investment of an unknown technology," she said. "They cannot afford to invest in other talent because of that."

Tech workers may understandably feel a sense of whiplash from these changes. During the pandemic, firms went on a hiring spree as much of everyday life moved online. Employees were offered generous salaries and significant flexibility as companies competed for talent.

Then the economy cooled amid higher interest rates and inflation, leading to large-scale layoffs as companies jettisoned tens of thousands of jobs.

However, the current hiring trends are not as closely correlated to the economy as one might think. Nela Richardson, head of ADP Research, told The Wall Street Journal that the past few years represent the natural trajectory of an industry grounded in innovation. "You're not breaking as much new ground in terms of the digital space as in earlier time periods," she said.

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Guess where all those intelligent people are going after...
HINT: They are not the burger-flipping or toilet-cleaning type.

The crime wave from this will cover the world in feces.
 
The industry is still growing and salaries are still going up, and it still provides a better work-life-balance for the money than any other field out there. I don't think things are quite as bad as this article makes it seem.

But some trimming of low performers is necessary. For decades programmers have loved joking about how they get paid 6 figures for only working 2 hours a day. The benefits and flexibility of this profession have been abused a bit too much. We've all met that guy: "Morning standup?! I don't get up before 11am".
I think those days are coming to an end, and that's a good thing.

Young college graduates are the ones who will be hurt the most. I think too many people have gone into this field. Entry level people are largely useless. Companies hire them more as a social service. You need about 3 years of actual work experience to get to a place where you're sort of productive. India and China are producing millions of software engineers a year. There are not that many entry level jobs.
 
This is nothing more than "layoff season" where people get let go near the end of the year, so companies can shore up stock prices before next year's cycle begins. It's upper managements "one trick" that this old pony has left. They will do the exact same thing next year, right around this same time.
 
This is nothing more than "layoff season" where people get let go near the end of the year, so companies can shore up stock prices before next year's cycle begins. It's upper managements "one trick" that this old pony has left. They will do the exact same thing next year, right around this same time.
Please take a look at the chart.
 
Guess where all those intelligent people are going after...
HINT: They are not the burger-flipping or toilet-cleaning type.

The crime wave from this will cover the world in feces.
Yeah man, we know the drill. Woe is me, it's the end of the world because the sky is falling. Up in flames etc.
I bet you are great at parties. ;)

Makes sense right? AI is claiming so many of those jobs, so why not get one where the future lies. I honestly can't see the general public embracing AI for any extended length of time but allowing people to be even more lazy seems all the rage right now so, bandwagon and all.
 
"For decades, having a job in tech meant stability..."

I stopped reading there... because it is so blatantly false that it is laughable...
 
Please take a look at the chart.
Tech companies forced Return to Office mandate to trim on their workforce.

They over hire during the COVID era because interest rates were low and the goal was to prevent the competitions from acquiring talents. There is a real word to define this specific action which I cannot remember.

If you cannot see that the tech industry is trying to trim their force right now, then I don't know how you can try to preach someone about the topic.
 
30% decline in job postings is no where near the full picture. A significant number of job postings are “ghost jobs” that company post but have no desire to fill in the next 6 months or ever. The reliance on job posting data is blindfolding the real picture of the tech job market.

Anecdotally, a friend of mine voluntarily quit a high paying fintech job soon after the pandemic due to return to office policies. It took more than 18 months and hundreds of applications to find a new a job that pays more than 40% less and in-office 3 days a week. At least it was a much better and less stressful working environment.
 
People claiming AI are forgetting about the more important metric being sweatshops in India with untrained personnel being replaced like chickens in a coup if they don't perform.

In my country many companies are outsourcing their IT departments to India considering it's dead cheap to do so.

Considering they're in India, they don't have Healthcare benefits from the company that hires them, and a regular citizen's wage can cover about 10-20 Indians.

It's impossible to compete with those wages,
 
I see lots of demand for cybersecurity roles, especially in IAM PAM and Cloud technologies. On a different note, my wife is head of people and talent at a startup and are desperate for good engineers.

What are these jobs? I see lots of jobs available in tech still.
 
People claiming AI are forgetting about the more important metric being sweatshops in India with untrained personnel being replaced like chickens in a coup if they don't perform.

In my country many companies are outsourcing their IT departments to India considering it's dead cheap to do so.

Considering they're in India, they don't have Healthcare benefits from the company that hires them, and a regular citizen's wage can cover about 10-20 Indians.

It's impossible to compete with those wages,
But it is possible to trace these companies and tax them appropriately.
If over 50% of your workforce is in India, you are really an American company?
 
This can't be I was told life was perfect, too many jobs out there. I'm curious how the "newcomers" will affect the job market.
 
Please take a look at the chart.
To be fair, not every company has a calendar based fiscal year. So, layoffs could happen all year round as different companies close out their year. For example, Microsoft begins a new year in July. Hewlett-Packard used to end their fiscal year in October.
 
To be fair, not every company has a calendar based fiscal year. So, layoffs could happen all year round as different companies close out their year. For example, Microsoft begins a new year in July. Hewlett-Packard used to end their fiscal year in October.
Yup. My companies fiscal year starts in April.
 
But it is possible to trace these companies and tax them appropriately.
If over 50% of your workforce is in India, you are really an American company?
I hope you see the irony in what you just said there. The whole reason many of these jobs went offshore was high labor costs which partially includes taxes (payroll for example). When the costs are too high, business choose other options like offshore labor. And many times, it is contact labor, not direct employees so you'll have a hard time taxing them.

Now, one way to get revenue from offshore goods is to apply tariffs. But people don't like tariffs because it drives up the price of those cheap goods, we all like to buy.

Oh, and to your point about 50% of your labor being outside the US. Yes, you would be a US-based international company. Consider a company like Dell. 2/3rds of their workforce is outside the US, but they are most certainly a US company.
 
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