Tesla Cybertruck catches fire after crashing into a fire hydrant

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Bottom line: Statistical data shows that electric vehicle fires occur at a similar frequency to those in vehicles with internal combustion engines, but this offers little comfort to firefighters. These fires are notoriously difficult to extinguish and pose increased dangers to first responders. At least two fires have resulted from Cybertruck crashes, raising concerns about the safety of high-voltage lithium-ion batteries.

Earlier this week, a Tesla Cybertruck erupted into flames after crashing into a fire hydrant outside a Bass Pro Shop in Harlingen, Texas. The collision resulted in a deluge of water soaking the vehicle's battery, which then ignited, according to Assistant Fire Chief Ruben Balboa of the Harlingen Fire Department. First responders arrived at the scene and believed they had extinguished the flames engulfing the Cybertruck. However, the fire reignited after they had stopped the water flow onto the battery, highlighting a challenging concern associated with electric vehicle fires.

This incident is the second fire in Texas involving a Tesla Cybertruck. The first happened after an owner drove into a ditch. It is the first fatal crash involving the model. In that case, the blaze's intensity was so severe that it obliterated the vehicle's VIN and left the driver unidentifiable.

The Harlingen incident underscores the difficulties these fires pose to first responders attempting to extinguish blazing batteries. Electric vehicle batteries can undergo a process known as thermal runaway, where a failure in one cell generates enough heat and gas to cause a chain reaction in adjacent cells.

The resulting fire burns at extremely high temperatures, sometimes reaching 2,300 to 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit, taking hours to extinguish. Firefighters have had to adapt their tactics to fight these fires, using full personal protective equipment due to the toxic fumes. New solutions, such as EV fire-specific fire blankets, are also being developed to address these challenges.

Additionally, first responders have found that EV fires demand significantly more water to extinguish. In 2021, Austin Fire Department Division Chief Thayer Smith told Futurism that Tesla vehicles require up to 30,000 to 40,000 gallons of water to put out – approximately 40 times the amount needed for a combustion engine car.

Ironically, Tesla posted a detailed rescue sheet for its Cybertruck the week before the Harlingen fire. Tesla designed the guide to assist first responders by informing them where the vehicle's low and high-voltage power cables terminate.

While such incidents tend to make headlines, it's important to note that electric vehicles generally do not catch fire more frequently than internal combustion engine vehicles. Tesla's global data indicates that, on average, a Tesla vehicle fire occurs once every 130 million miles traveled, significantly less frequent than the average vehicle fire rate of one per 18 million miles traveled in the US.

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This is easy to solve. Honestly. For all vehicles. Giant fire-retardant blanket draped over the vehicle. Toss a flashbang or 2 filled with fire extinguisher crap in there. Fire already suffocating due to blanket boi. Viince McMahon - No Chance.

"Let's keep the vehicle in the open air while trying to spray it for hours." - Stupid People
 
Becuse rights-free images are hard to come by. :)
And I wouldn't have problems with that, except when during the first 1.5 year of Ukrainian war, any missile from Ukraine kills thousands of Russians, with photos shown, and every missile Russians send destroys only hospitals and little kids, with photos attached that were proved to have come from other countries and other unrelated events.

I'd like to believe in journalist etiquette / integrity, of not attaching unrelated imagery or documents, just because you cannot use the real ones. It's quite low for journalism, IMO.

I did some research on that accident, and it would appear the car in question wasn't inflamed at all, with just smoke coming out.
 
This is easy to solve. Honestly. For all vehicles. Giant fire-retardant blanket draped over the vehicle. Toss a flashbang or 2 filled with fire extinguisher crap in there. Fire already suffocating due to blanket boi. Viince McMahon - No Chance.

"Let's keep the vehicle in the open air while trying to spray it for hours." - Stupid People
Except....that doesnt work. Lithium fires are self sustaining. The nanosecond you take that blanket off, the fire will re ignite. A "flashbang" of fire retardant wouldnt come anywhere close to 100% coverage, and that coverage only works so long as NOTHING moves, the moment something moves, or the temperature changes, ece, a microscopic gap lets some oxygen in and WOOOSH there goes the fire again. Besides, drop a fire retardant blanket on a blazing lithium battery fire, itll eventually burn up itself, beyond a certain temperature and thermal capacity those blankets are useless. Not to mention you need to get close enough to "throw a blanket on it" in the first place, which is really really hard. Have you ever gotten close to a vehicle fire before? If some fire retardant would stop a lithium fire, they could just....shoot it at the vehicle in question. Dont even need the blanket! It doesnt work, but its the thought that counts.

"This is so easy to solve, just do X! Its obvious. Silly stupid people!" -- Walking Dunning-Kruger awards.
Not much. We still have around 10 times more ICEV fires. It's just the fact that those usually aren't newsworthy at all, for some reason.
Because the vast majority of those occur after severe accidents, or because of user error. EV fires, OTOH, are more likely to occur when charging, or when parked, and when they DO go up, they tend to take a lot of property with them, like that recent rivian battery fire. And, unlike traditional fires, EV fires are a LOT harder to put out, thus leading to even more damage.

Insurance companies are not denying coverage if you have an attached garage and an EV, and those that are not are jacking up insurance rates. It is a real problem affecting more people every day. And since fear drives insurance rates, this kind of thing will absolutely drive rates up higher.
 
Because the vast majority of those occur after severe accidents, or because of user error. EV fires, OTOH, are more likely to occur when charging, or when parked, and when they DO go up, they tend to take a lot of property with them, like that recent rivian battery fire. And, unlike traditional fires, EV fires are a LOT harder to put out, thus leading to even more damage.

Insurance companies are not denying coverage if you have an attached garage and an EV, and those that are not are jacking up insurance rates. It is a real problem affecting more people every day. And since fear drives insurance rates, this kind of thing will absolutely drive rates up higher.
I agree with most of what you’ve said, but this part I think is partially wrong.. The only EV I’ve heard of spontaneously catching on fire when charging or just sitting around was the Chevy Bolt, where there was a design or manufacturing flaw with the battery. Otherwise an EV will ONLY catch on fire after a severe accident or damage done to the battery. It might not be immediately after, but practically every EV fire article is because of a car accident.

Also insurance rates have risen for everyone by 22% in the last year. It has nothing to do with EV’s. I have a Tesla and Hyundai, and policy just renewed. The insurance for the Tesla went up by 23% and the Hyundai went up by 28%.
 
Also insurance rates have risen for everyone by 22% in the last year. It has nothing to do with EV’s. I have a Tesla and Hyundai, and policy just renewed. The insurance for the Tesla went up by 23% and the Hyundai went up by 28%.
Just curious, is the Hyundai an EV too?
 
Why post an image of some random car on fire, one that is not even tesla?
Because the media's in anti-Musk mode. If you view the actual photos of the incident, you can't even see smoke coming from the Cybertruck, much less actual flames.

And yet somehow this site found this incident newsworthy, but not the EVs randomly catching fire outside the Rivian factory -- a massive burn that destroyed nearly sixty vehicles. And all without even the justification of a high-speed collision to start the fire. And this is the third fire at that Rivian factory this year.
 
Also insurance rates have risen for everyone by 22% in the last year. It has nothing to do with EV’s. I have a Tesla and Hyundai, and policy just renewed. The insurance for the Tesla went up by 23% and the Hyundai went up by 28%.
Not true. It depends on where you are in the world, including which area of that part of the world you live in. which company you are insured with and which vehicle you are driving. All of these things will affect your insurance price including many other variables.
This year, as with every other year, some peoples insurance is cheaper, some stays the same and some increases. Insurance is not nearly as easy to figure out as the average Joe thinks it is.
 
Not true. It depends on where you are in the world, including which area of that part of the world you live in. which company you are insured with and which vehicle you are driving. All of these things will affect your insurance price including many other variables.
This year, as with every other year, some peoples insurance is cheaper, some stays the same and some increases. Insurance is not nearly as easy to figure out as the average Joe thinks it is.
Okay lol well on average prices are probably up worldwide because of INFLATION, and definitely up in the US. You could also reply with the same logic to what I replied to, that you can't possibly claim that EV insurance rates are up because it depends on all sorts of variables (including "lack of fear" based to the post I replied to LOL). But it's a fool's argument unless you show some actual up to date evidence.

Well I showed a concrete example of EV insurance rates going up less than ICE insurance rates. I am based in the US, and other statistics show price increases apply to almost all of the US. I'll give you a source if you'd like (it shows that every state but 3 had its auto insurance costs go up, and only Washington had a notable decrease): https://insurify.com/car-insurance/report/

Bankrate has similar data, but that it went up even higher, by 26% (and only Wyoming had a price decrease): https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/car/the-true-cost-of-auto-insurance-in-2024/
 
Because the media's in anti-Musk mode. If you view the actual photos of the incident, you can't even see smoke coming from the Cybertruck, much less actual flames.

And yet somehow this site found this incident newsworthy, but not the EVs randomly catching fire outside the Rivian factory -- a massive burn that destroyed nearly sixty vehicles. And all without even the justification of a high-speed collision to start the fire. And this is the third fire at that Rivian factory this year.
This is a great point. Here's an actual video of the fire, it shows that the Cybertruck battery fire is a controlled burn by design. All flames are directed at the ground, and from one of the two angles in the video you can't even see the fire:
 
Because the media's in anti-Musk mode.
The stark reality of this is, Musk has no one to blame but himself for his fall from grace as a demigod, to mouthy, egomanical, a**hole.

In other somewhat relevant "news", I saw one of these "Cyberhorrors" in real life. No one can say, "they just don't photograph well". IMO, they;re even uglier in person,

While it's obvious its aesthetic has "imposing" as its singular objective, I can't envision a context where it presents anything beyond being an imposition.

It's the vehicular equivalent of simultaneously speaking very loudly while farting in church.

I will concede it might have a "bright" future as a novelty entry into a "monster truck bash". "Picture if you will*", a "Cyberbeast", with 6' diameter tires, a massive roll bar sticking through that similarly massive windscreen, with fake exhaust headers (chrome, 4 on each side), leading the flames away from its battery pack.
 
I saw one of these "Cyberhorrors" in real life. No one can say, "they just don't photograph well". IMO, they;re even uglier in person...
They're the most pre-ordered vehicle in US automotive history, so it seems Musk has read the market far better than you.

The stark reality of this is, Musk has no one to blame but himself for his fall from grace as a demigod
But Musk hasn't fallen from grace. His exposure of an illegal conspiracy between the federal government and social media annoyed some fascist Leftwingers, but earned him kudos from all the right-thinking people of the world.
 
They're the most pre-ordered vehicle in US automotive history, so it seems Musk has read the market far better than you.
To me it just "implies", that Tesla doesn't have them in stock and ready for delivery.. How many years late are they, BTW? IMO, it also certifies the old adage, "there's no accounting for taste".

Although, I'm sure there's a market for them in the Rap, Gangsta, and Thug music scenes. After al they're bulletproof, (kinda, sorta), just ask the bowling ball. Musk just better get his a** in gear, and make sure Hannibal Lecter gets his on time, or they'll be hell to slice and dice. Your buddy Elon might be his next main dish. (I read the papers too).
But Musk hasn't fallen from grace. His exposure of an illegal conspiracy between the federal government and social media annoyed some fascist Leftwingers, but earned him kudos from all the right-thinking people of the world.
Right thinking, huh? Are they they the ones who published, Project 2025?
 
To me it just "implies", that Tesla doesn't have them in stock and ready for delivery..
Oops!

Forbes Magazine: "Despite the $100,000 price tag, Tesla's Cybertruck gains traction ... Tesla has sold 11,558 Cybertrucks to date in 2024 versus Ford’s [industry-leading sales of] 15,545 and beat the F-150 in the second quarter racking up sales of 8,755 units to the F-150 Lightning’s 7,902...."
 
Fascist left-wingers? :laughing:
Why not learn history? Mussolini was a far-Left socialist writer before founding his party with the "fasci" -- Italian Leftwing union workers. He considered fascism to be a "corrected" version of socialism; his tenets on resolving "class struggles" by giving workers and the state control of corporations could have been taken directly from the progressive wing of the DNC today. This is even more true of Germany's early National Socialist Party, which advocated strong labor unions, tight regulation and control of corporations, high taxes on the "evil rich", laws against "unfair profits", free college educations, a vastly increased minimum wage, expanded access to abortion, and -- above all else -- a slavish desire to categorize everyone by race, rather than as individuals. Sound familiar?

The rise of National Socialism was originally cheered by Leftists in the US and Europe ... it wasn't until its abuses came to light that history was feverishly rewritten to call the movement "right wing", despite it sharing literally nothing in common with conservative economic or political ideology.

As for antisemitism, it's not the GOP that has elected four rabidly-antisemitic Hamas supporters to Congress -- including the only Congressperson in history officially sanctioned for antisemitic remarks made during Congressional debate. That's the DNC. And it's tens of thousands of young Democrats currently attacking Jewish students in liberal colleges around the US, while scrawling antisemitic slogans on campus walls.
 
Mussolini was a far-Left socialist writer before founding his party with the "fasci" -- Italian Leftwing union workers.
Donald Trump was also left early on, and wanted very little to do with Republicans in a majority of his ideology. He switched over to what he is today, and he did it for many of the same reasons Mussolini did. People on the left did not like him, so he switched to a style where he knew he could dictate the agenda to people who were such failures at life that only a scapegoat, combined with blatantly lying to his people's faces, would pacify them.
They didn't want the truth, they wanted flowery words that made them feel good.
And they sure as hell did not have to be factual.
I admit I often puzzle over how you come up with some of the ridiculous things you say, but if factual comments ever become a part of your style and want to know how I know the things I wrote here, you can read a book called My Autobiography.
Its available at Amazon.

The rise of National Socialism was originally cheered by Leftists in the US and Europe
And Socialism is still a big influence in much of Europe today, but you and I also know that is NOT the Socialism of nearly a hundred years ago. We here in the US are Socialist in many ways. (Public education, infrastructure, law enforcement, parks, and Social Security).
And yes, if you want, I will educate you further on the subject. You only need to ask.
Plus, I know for a fact that many here at TS could help with that also.

As for antisemitism, it's not the GOP that has elected four rabidly-antisemitic Hamas supporters to Congress
No. A Hamas supporter would have been in favor of their actions on 10\7. None are.
And it's tens of thousands of young Democrats currently attacking Jewish students in liberal colleges around the US, while scrawling antisemitic slogans on campus walls.
I actually agree here. They don't have a clue what it truly means when they say
they "support Palestine". But they do not have the support of other Democrats, certainly not Harris, and will NEVER say there are great people on both sides.
But do you, a MAGA, really want to trade views on other groups of people that support vile, hateful groups ideology or documented actions?
Just take this to General and we can discuss that.

Why not learn history?
 
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to know how I know the things I wrote here, you can read a book called My Autobiography
Thanks, now point to one statement in that book that contradicts even one of my points?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

And Socialism is still a big influence in much of Europe today, but you and I also know that is NOT the Socialism of nearly a hundred years ago.
Please explain how the socialism of the 1930s differs dramatically from today. I've detailed the many political points that Italy fascist and Germany's National Socialists share with today's Left, from their love of all-powerful central government to their slavish desire to categorize everyone by race. Their belief that "racial identity" is more important than individuality is a direct mirror to the Left's support of racial quotas, DEI programs, "white privilege deprogramming", and statements like "you aren't black if you don't vote for me".

We here in the US are Socialist in many ways. (Public education, infrastructure, law enforcement, parks, and Social Security).
Anyone who considers law enforcement as "socialist" doesn't understand the meaning of the word.

No. A Hamas supporter would have been in favor of their actions on 10\7. None are.
Oops! Rashida Tlaib refused to condemn the 10/7 attacks. After extreme pressure from her own party, days later she finally issued a statement that placed the blame equally on both sides. And let's not forget this either:

NYT: "Twenty-two Democrats joined most Republicans in the rebuke of Ms. Tlaib, accusing her of calling for the destruction of Israel...."


But do you, a MAGA, really want to trade views on other groups of people that support vile, hateful groups ideology or documented actions?
I'm actually a Libertarian, not "a MAGA", and the Left's support of the most vile, hateful groups in existence today explains why I no longer belong to Left-wing organizations like the ACLU, of which for over a decade I used to be 'a card carrying member' of.
 
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