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3DS Competition prize: P4 1.6a running at 2.2Ghz. With what cooling?

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by Arris, Mar 18, 2002.

  1. SuperCheetah Newcomer, in training Posts: 868

    I have to agree with Arris on this one. I don't think the price for the current XP's are worth upgrading just for an extra 100 megahertz. Personally, I'm going to wait for the Clawhammers to come out later this year before I upgrade, and get me a 64 bit processor :)

    It's like Arris says, if you have plenty of money then go for it, but if not then I would definitely hold out for another month at least until the Throughbreds come out at the end of this month.

    Plus, upgrading to an XP processor will not make a noticeable difference in performance for you nor I. Sure I would like to see higher benchmarks, but not for the extra 200 dollars I would have to spend for them. My advice, stick with what you have for another couple of months and then see where AMD is with the Throughbreds and Clawhammers!!!
  2. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

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    Source: http://www.slapps.com/review/sd7/

    From this review at www.slapps.com the default speed Northwood gets a PR rating lower than my 1.4Ghz Athlon at 1.5Ghz (143fsb, PR2000). Althons still seem to have a peformance edge...

    Lucky that Northwood 1.6 overclocks so well...
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  3. SuperCheetah Newcomer, in training Posts: 868

  4. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

    I'm attempting to save the 38mb high quality one to my computer now :)
    Can't be much to the overclock if its just air cooling thats involved.
    I'm still going to check it out. Nice find :grinthumb
  5. boeingfixer Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,245

    Thanks Super, I just downloaded and watched it too, I even learned a few things I didn't know. Now I wish that Athlon boards had the fancy heatsink clip. Taking on and off an Athlon one is something that keeps me on edge every time I do it!!
  6. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

    Its not a cooler.....!!!! Thats something you keep your beer in!
    Its a HSF or a heatsink and a fan... (you'll understand if you watch the video)
    The clock divider is cool though. Its something that not a lot of athlon motherboards support. The Iwill XP333 supports this as it is the only way it can run the fsb at higher speeds without overclocking the AGP and PCI (AGP usually a 1/3 divider and PCI 1/4). 150 fsb on a standard 266DDR board means a 37.5 PCI bus which usually runs at 33Mhz. Not all PCI components are happy running at these overclocked rates so user definable dividers solve this. I believe this technology was a long time coming as its not a simple thing to be able to do on a motherboard.
     
  7. SuperCheetah Newcomer, in training Posts: 868

    I agree that AMD boards need to implement this technology also. I thought it was pretty cool how everything was set and the divider took care of all the PCI and AGP overclocking.

    And I thought is was really cool how he simply snapped the heatsink into place. Must be nice, I almost had a heart attack installed my first AMD heatsink!!!
  8. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

    I know that the Iwill XP333 boards have this type of divider technology. Not sure about other 333 boards as most have only recently been released and there is not that much information floating about the net regarding them.

    I also liked the clip for the P4 "cooler" installation.
    Seems like a much easier system than the cleat socket A method. Although that standard heatsink that he fitted was absolutely massive in comparison to my neat little SK6 on my 1.4Ghz Athlon.:eek:
  9. lokem Newcomer, in training Posts: 773

    Here's another P4 Northwood OC Adventure for you guys:

    http://www.virtual-hideout.net/articles/p4northwood_ocing_adventure/index.shtml

  10. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

    I'm glad he is going for more as paying the extra for a 1.8A instead of a 1.6A it seems silly to stop at a 100Mhz greater overclock. I'm tempted to get one of these and put on a quality high performance HSF and see what the 1.6A will go up to... :D
  11. lokem Newcomer, in training Posts: 773

    Very true indeed. But I still can't get over the fact that RC5 rate is horrible on the P4 :(

    BTW, the FSB for all P4s are quad pumped rite?
  12. Arris TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,305   +17

    Not sure. Never owned a P4. From everything I have read about them it seems to be the case.
  13. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    Weird indeed, maybe the heatsink/fan isn't properly installed/working? My P4 1.6@1.9 runs quite a long time with just standard heatsink, fan turned off.
  14. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    This is just my guess but I think it's because of dnetc is multithreaded and programmers have forgotten to add pause command to their spin-wait routine.
    Right.
  15. lokem Newcomer, in training Posts: 773

    Is yours the new Northwood? My friend is using the older core (forgot the name). Perhaps that's causing all the heat.

    Not really, it's due to some number shifting thingy that the P4 lacks. I can't seem to find a link to that for now. But I'll come back to this later :D
  16. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    *bump*
    Forgot already?