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A Decent Computer for a Good Price

By Tenko
May 26, 2006
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  1. Cyber

    Cyber Newcomer, in training Posts: 89

    You guys should check out intels website... they have some nice flash clips that explain how dual core works and other processor... tho they are all Intel processor but the story behind how a dual core works is the same in both Intel and AMD... the difference comes that AMD does more work in one clock than Intel... so AMD has lower clock speeds but Intel is the other way around it does less work in one clock and has higher clock speeds... good luck with ur new pc's...

    Cyber
  2. legendz411

    legendz411 Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    10x7 should be FLAWLESS! No lag even on the highest resolutions. At 12x10, you might be running at med-high. Even then, lagless. :) Enjoy
  3. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Wow, I just switched my computer from 10x7 to 12x10 and I love it. I think it looks a lot nicer :D
    Grr, I have to wait 1-2 days for my video card and PSU according to Newegg...
    With this computer I should be able to put it on 10x7 with no lag even in the major cities? 12x10 is pushin it though? Well thats good to know...
    Also, is there any easier way to ground myself then the above mentioned? :p
  4. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    1280x768 shouldn't lag with a 7600GT (well, it depends on the game... in Prey 1280x1024 won't be playable). On my X850XT I was able to turn up all the settings (fully maxed everywhere) in Prey and still get ~60fps on 1024x768. But then again, Prey is a pretty heavy game, so if I turned down a few settings I could play at 1600x1200.

    As for the grounding, sorry, don't know. But when are you not going to have a powersupply in the computer? Isn't it better to put a psu in first and be over with it? Just wondering...
  5. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    The PSU and Video Card are in the same shipment which will come in 1-2 business days.
    Can anyone else help me with my little dilemma? :)

    Edit: Oh did you mean when am I NOT going to have a PSU in the PC? Well, when I'm replacing the junk PSU with this newer one, in between replacement I won't have a PSU in the PC so I won't be able to use that to ground me.
  6. legendz411

    legendz411 Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    Just to be fair, Case PSU's are sometiems VERY underrated... Granted, the 450w Rater PSU that came with the PC isn't going to push extra and may not run a new VGA and all that, but it isn't exactly ****-tastic just cuz it is a case PSU. I've had MANY a good case PSU last me the entirty of my PC's life...


    Then there are some tha blow up when you turn them on :) Stay away from those :)


    You can ground yourself on anything on the case... You can use any un-painted surface... Not just the PSU. Hell, you can touch some wood or a brass/iron doorknob. Just touch something that you think would shock you. :)
  7. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Oh, okey dokey.:D
    Well for the PSU, I just want to be cautious. Plus I already ordered it :p
    Also, if that PSU lasts like 3 years I can put it into the computer I will be building when I go to college :)
    Hmm, do you think my metal fosset would shock me? :p
  8. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Huh?

    Those aren't literally "grounded" (ie - underground)... But I guess they'll work.

    I don't think the power supply is statically affected. It's the chips/boards that are affected. You should be fine as long as you touch the powersupply and nothing else. So change the supply then ground yourself and put your card in.
  9. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Yeah that sounds good. I really doubt the electricity is gonna somehow wreck a PSU. That makes it a heck of a lot easier :)
  10. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Wow, I have horrible luck :(
    My stuff should be here tomorrow, but then I go to look at my wish list on newegg, and the 7600GT I ordered just went down in price from $200 to $165 plus it has a $20 mail-in rebate... :(
    Well, whatever, as long as I get my 7600GT on time, i'm not complaining :)
  11. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Same here.

    My X850XT was 165 when I got it, and after that it went to 129.00 with a 30$ rebate bringing it to under 100$...
     
  12. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Hey,
    I've got some questions that I need help with :)
    1. When I install my video card, my friend said I need to disable the onboard video and enable the 7600GT, how do I do this?
    2. I don't have to enable my PSU or anthing, it'll just kick right in right?
    Thanks,
    Tenko :D
  13. i_am_a_newbie

    i_am_a_newbie Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    To disable onboard graphics you simply need to get into your BIOS(either by pushing DELETE or F1 or whatever gateway uses during startup).

    Poke around until you find a setting that lets you disable it.

    You probably won't have to enable the new card, as it should be automatically detected.

    Also, there's nothing you have to do with the PSU other than plug it in correctly and make sure the voltage is set correctly for your area(if it has a switch/setting in the back of it).
  14. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    How do I know what my voltage needs to be? :)
    Disabling the video card seems pretty easy at least :p
    Sorry if these sound like retard questions haha, but I gotta learn somewhere.
  15. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    As in, is it 115V or 220V? :D
  16. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Huh? :eek:
    I have no clue if its 112V or 220V, how do I figure that out? All I know is that my PSU is Antec SmartPower 500W.
    Oh, by the way, all my parts came today, now I have to go to Best Buy tomorrow to get an outlet strip and I will get my computer running with the new parts in it. :)
  17. i_am_a_newbie

    i_am_a_newbie Newcomer, in training Posts: 278

    If you live in North America, you'll be running 115V. Europe etc use 220V for some reason.
  18. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    I live in North America, yes. So 115V it is :)
    Thanks guys.
    Wish me luck :D
  19. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Just out of curiosity, how'd everything go? Everything working? How fast is it?

    Oh, and don't forget to do the legendary Super-PI to 1M and 2M test :D. I'm getting 38s on 1M at 2.2GHz (I'm going to go higher soon for the fun of it), and 1m 28s on 2M.
  20. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Well, I haven't got it set up yet sadly, because I don't have an outlet strip yet :( My mom doesn't want to take me to town, but she said she will take me tomorrow. Once I get it set up tomorrow (if my mom takes me :(), I will let you guys know how it goes, and I'll make sure to test the speed out :D
    Right now, I am extremely anxious to get it, because its been getting put off and delayed for like a couple months. I figure it will take me about a half hour or something to get the video card and PSU in it, another half hour of setup time, and then 3 or 4 hours of installing all the stuff I need :)
    Anyways, I'll make sure to tell you how it runs and what FPS im getting and what speeds its running though, so check back tomorrow at around 5 or 6, my time. (Its 1:15 right now here if that helps)

    Edit: Lol, just for the heck of it, I tested this PC's speed, its horrible compared to the others haha. 2min 32sec for 2m, 1m 12sec for 1m. That's pretty bad, higher then the highest time I saw on the first page of the other post.
  21. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    What?!?

    What processor do you have again (If you forgot, just right-click on My Computer and select "Properties")?

    You should NOT be getting more that 50 seconds on the 1M run. What you got is what I got with my crappy eMachines Athlon XP 2000+ (1.6GHz, 512MB PC2100) computer.

    On my 3800+ (which becomes a single-core 3200+ at stock speed to SuperPI, since SuperPI only uses one core) @ stock speed (2.0GHz) I got 42 seconds. After a few overclocks I got 36 seconds (to 1M).

    I suggest you take a look inside to see what they put in there, it almost sounds like it's not what it is supposed to be. What ram is it (not just the size, but what speed, what type, what company, etc.)? Maybe that matters a little (I got some expensive Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 ram with heatsinks, but it shouldn't impact the speed by more than 1 or 2 seconds)....

    Odd... Very Odd... Oh well, let's first see how it deals in the real world (that is, games :D).

    Anyways, I wish you the best of luck!
  22. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Noooo, this is the old computer that I did the test with. It's a Dell Dimension 2400 2.8 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 processor. Thats why it was so crappy, because this computer stinks haha. I'm sure my new one will be way under a minute. Tomorrow, I'll tell you my speeds on my new PC. :)
  23. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Oh!

    Ooohhh, for a second there I got worried :D. Lol.

    Doesn't your new one have integrated graphics though? You can use it like that until you change the components. Or you aren't allowed to run it yet or something :p?

    (For SuperPI, graphics won't make any kind of impact. Though graphics will definately be the main part for games.)
  24. Tenko

    Tenko Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 177

    Well, my graphics card and PSU are here and have been for around a week. I'm waiting for my actual PC to get here (I already have my monitor and printer also). The PC was sold out at Best Buy, but it should be here tomorrow. Plus, I still need an outlet strip. Tomorrow I'll give you an update :)
  25. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    OOOhhhhh, I thought it was the other way around, as in you had your pc but not your graphics card and power supply.

    Ok then, good luck!
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