About ATI Radeon 9800XT

yup dude thats exactly my motherboard. see thats the S3G video card i was talking about, i wasnt thiking much of gaming when my dad got the pc.

wait with a few exeption like am prett sure the agp slot has a bit more vlotage the card is onboard intergrated. but everything else am pretty sure its the same. about getting a p4. do u mean getting a new pc, processor or motherboard?

ATI Radeon9800 XT - I'm going Wacky

I recently built a PC on a budget. I got Abit KV7-V mobo with Athlon xp 2800+, 1gb ddr400 ram, and 160gb sata raid and Nvidia FX5500 all for about $400.

The Nvidia was not the best on games and Doom3 was a chalenge. I replaced it with some wacky knock of e-bay deal card having the radeon9800 xt chip w/256 ram

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5226479650&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1

I have a 19" LCD 12ms DVI input monitor and using the DVI inputs and with the Radeon9800XT I can run games very well and 2d is great as well. Problem I keep having is that when I switch from games to my desktop I get color hair lines buzzing across the whole screen (like interference of sort, or bad refresh rate) and to remedy that I have to switch the refresh rate from 60hz to 75hz and it goes away. Than it starts again when switching from games and sometime just on its own and I have to go from 75hz to 60hz and it goes away. I'm going nuts from this ! I have tried all possible drivers, included ones (junk) Ms native ones and the latest Catalyst drivers, all do the same ! I have receded the card, I have an extra fan under it (ram runs pretty hot even with heat sink) still keeps doing it !

I have the VIA chipset which I see some of you guys said may have some issues with win XP Pro and radeon cards. Abit KV7-V has BIOS 15 out I have 13 but I hate flashing BIOS (got burned once..lol !) but I was going to anyway, however I did not see any of these issues addressed when reading the BIOS 15 fixes. I have the latest VIA chipset drivers on XP pro (I hope)
5.1.0.3442 dated 7/2/2003 (the agp controler3.0 driver in DM)

I'm at a conclusion that I have gimped card ! Mom said I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things, gues she may be right ($137 for the card)

Is there anything else to try ?? anyone, anyone ?

thanks in advance,

Gor :bounce:

but u still managed to get card working with the via chipset? well, thats a relief for me at least, lol. i was worried it wouldnt work.

see due whenevr i have scren problems and got no clue what to do i just erboot my dam pc, lol, not healthy tho

Do I think what would work? Upgrading to a gig of ram?

Providing your buy the right type of ram for that motherboard, yes it would work.

so dude cuz i install 9800xt and have no problems of my screen getting messed or things like that? even with 512 MB ram?

Hey, I can't promise you anything with computers.

All I am saying is, according to the maker of your motherboard and that video card, yes they should work together. Even with only 512Mb ram. My only concern is your PSU. It "officially" has enough power (350W) but really those ratings mean nothing. If it is a cheap PSU, you may have problems after installing that 9800XT.

With a few exeptions? You will want to be REAL sure that the motherboard I am saying is yours IS yours, without exeption otherwise all the info I have given you is wrong.

I am pretty sure I have the right board though. You mention a sticker on your AGP slot saying do NOT put in a 3.3v card right? According to the website for your motherboard, that AGP slot is a 1.5v. Oh, and by the way, lower is better in this case.


Oh, and my comment about the P4 was referring to a CPU only. Something to think about down the road.

alright man, that helps, ill find out what the power supply makeer is seeing as right now am using my crappy pentium 3, ma bro using the good one. but yah, i check its 1.5 v, ur right, the info u gave me is exaclty right exept for the video card, its the same as named there but its onboard not intergrated. so yeah now once i get the card shud i disable the onboard card before installing the new one, or after? thats a nother question i have.

a new tower eh, dunno, lol, well, ma parents have been thinking of getting my my own system for christmass, but this time i make sure it either has p4 with ht tech or an Anthlon 64 since am interested in gaming. wud b nice to find a system with PCI Express slots. then Radeon X850 wud b sweet.lol

I've heard the best way to do it is:

1. Boot up in safe mode
2. go into your device manager and delete the drivers for the onboard graphics
3. Reboot computer and go into your bios, and change the settings for "boot up display" (or something similar) to "AGP".
4. Shut off again, and install new card. Attach monitor to it.
5. Boot up and install new drivers.

"onboard" and "integrated" are two ways of saying the same thing

No no! I didn't mean getting a whole new computer (although that would be sweet). I'm just talking about getting a new CPU. Your motherboard gives you some decent options for upgrades. The motherboard is ready for you to pop a new P4 in it. :bounce:

OMG, u serious? i thouhg Motherboards cud not take new processors.

geez guess there is a lot for me to still learn. Yeah it also says it can support a p4 with HT on the site u gave me. hell the PSU is designed for p4, says it on the box.

great, how much do you think a cpu with a p4 processor wud be? cuz then i need to get a job, lmao. And yeah i know what u mean on the change to agp stuff. it says to choose my primary port incase of multiple vid card. neways how do i install a new cpu with p4? heck if i did that wud i get more Ghz? cuz that wud b sweet, i shud get 1 gb ram 1st.

Upgrades are endless! :bounce:

The good news is, you will be able to stay with that motherboard for quite some time, as it will let you pop in a decent CPU and more memory. The VGA slot is probably your biggest liability, but still acceptable for today's games.

But before you go upgrading everything, I'd suggest taking a good hard look at that PSU you have. Once you find out who the maker is, do a google and find some reviews on it, or post it here and see what others have to say.

As for the CPU, you can get yourself a P4 for just over a hundred bucks, or spend as much as $650, depending on what CPU you want. Do a search on www.newegg.com for LGA775 Pentium4 processors (and make sure that your motherboard can handle it by checking the supported CPU list on the website I gave you).

Edit: try THIS link - I did the search on newegg for you

see dude, if cpus r that expensive, hell i cuz just get me my own tower with p4, lol. but i rather have my own computer than shared. see if i get radeon 9800xt and intall on this pc, but then get another pc, heck am taking it out and putting it on the other one.

The good news for you is the 9800 XT has a molex connector, which you attach a harddrive power lead directly to the board. This is used to expand it's AGP slot compatibility as it converts the molex/power lead to power the card.

You shouldn't have any problems installing the 9800 XT in that system, provided it fits physically. As far as the power supply goes- as it's a 350W, it should be more than enough provided it's not weak or old. Even at that, it's worth trying and seeing if you get stability. If not, you know you need to replace the power supply!

As far as your CPU goes.. true, you wont be able to get the utmost/highest framerates possible that a 9800XT can provide, but on the flipside- you can layer up tons of graphics settings with likely no impact as you're CPU bound in games. This means, say you get 45 fps at 800x600... you'll likely still have 43-45 fps at 1280x1024 with anisotropic filtering and 2x antialiasing. This will allow you to play all your games you play now at similar framerates as you experience now, but with the ability to ramp up resolution and anisotropic filtering/antialiasing with little cost. This makes games look MUCH better.

alright, thats good to hear, ill check my PSU makers when i dont feel lazy to open up my pc. well, see now i know i can install i need to know how do i ground myself so i wont screw up my system when installing. i heard and know people who have been dumb enouhg to let static electricity mess up their cards. so if anyone here knows whats the best and safest way, i wud like a step by step procedure. thank you