I'd love Facebook to be banned here in Canada.
Now that i agree to
Hey Australia, better start downloading the internet now! *tongue in cheek*
I guess those Aussies will have to go find their porn another way.
Despite child safety advocates telling him it won't make a difference, industry professionals telling him it won't work, schoolkids telling him they'll just work around it and the general population telling him repeatedly they DON'T WANT IT, he's STILL going ahead? Governments seem incapable of understanding that the internet sees censorship as damage and routes around it. It won't prevent anyone who wants to see the "inappropriate" sites from seeing them because circumventing the filter is absolutely trivial..
Labor was pushing for net filtering long before they got into power. So Australians knew full well that it was going to happen but voted for them nevertheless.
You must be joking
First of all we have a Prime Minister, not a President
Secondly we are not a religious country especially in comparison to in god we trust !! america :rolleyes:
You guys are the religious fanatics not us (obviously excluding all those wacko middle east countries)
We are a multi-cultural country having citizens originating from many varied countries, and due to that, "religion" is just all broken up here. Thank god !
And just as a twist on that information, its usually the religious nuts that are the ones responsible for CP and abusing kids. Geez you US guys must have some big issues in that case. And I know that you do in this area alone.
One more thing about this BIG issue of censorship. The government have stated they will only be stopping specific known bad sites (at this stage) So if anyone needed a proxy help in Australia for this, then they must only be wanting to go to those "specific" censored sites, I wouldn't be helping them
At least we will have less users with Malware infections
A normal day on Sunday in Australia
Go on picnic
Kick a footy (that's real Aussie rules footy)
Go to the beach or pool (the sun is pretty hot here)
Recover from drinking beer, Saturday night, all night long :zzz: :monkey:
We have no time for the church here :evil: , excluding 1% of the population, usually of ethnic background
You guys just got this! this thing has been out, since when the Australian government is decding to go forward with the new broadband trial in TAS, the government said that if the internet is going to be changed so would, filtering would be inserted. so in common words if Austraila wants the new superfast broadband, they have to go with the filtering which i have to say is BS!
Australia already has enough issues to sort out with, and needs to pull their heads out of their old ***'s and start thinking for the people of Australia and their issues, instead for themselves.
If you fire off an angry email to Senator Conroy about filtering, all you'll likely get is an automatically-generated reply giving you the standard words on the issue. Don't waste your time, waste theirs instead! See http://is.gd/5pjGo
Wrong. They opposed mandatory filtering when the Howard government proposed it in 1999 and 2003. Before they got into power they supported an optional client level filter for parents.
In China you can go to jail for 10 years if you are caught bypassing the filter.
I'm a little surprised that Australia is so conservative. I keep seeing stuff about them banning video games because they're too violent. Aliens vs. Predator just got rejected. Left 4 Dead 2 and Fallout 3 were both initially rejected and had to be cleaned up. What's the big deal with a little fake gore/violence? Next thing they'll be banning movies, music, and books too (if they don't already do so...)
Based upon my own prejudices, I'm inclined to believe you. However, , I think reality disagrees with you at least a *little*.
Religions Affiliations in Australia:
Catholic; 25.8% of the population
Christian (non catholic): 38.1%
Other religions: 5.4%
No religion: 18.7%
No response: 11.2%
Religion in the United States
Christian (non catholic): 50.9%
Other religions: 3.5%
No religion: 15%
Well, you don't at least....
"In the 2006 Australian Census participants were asked "what is the person's ancestry?""
* Australian (37.13%)
* English (31.65%)
* Irish (9.08%)
* Scottish (7.56%)
* Italian (4.29%)
* German (4.09%)
* Chinese (3.37%)
* Greek (1.84%)
* Dutch (1.56%)
* Indian (1.18%)
* Lebanese (0.92%)
* Vietnamese (0.87%)
* Polish (0.82%)
* New Zealander (0.81%)
* Filipino (0.81%)
* Maltese (0.77%)
* Croatian (0.59%)
* Australian Aboriginal (0.58%)
* Welsh (0.57%)
* French (0.5%)
* Serbian (0.48%)
* Maori (0.47%)
* Spanish (0.42%)
* Macedonian (0.42%)
* South African (0.4%)
* Sinhalese (0.37%)
* Hungarian (0.3%)
* Russian (0.3%)
* Turkish (0.3%)
* American (0.28%)
Apparently Australia doesn't ask for ethnicity anymore, BUT in the 1999 census, the estimate was 92% Caucasian which is even possibly more 'pale' then the U.S. Yes, incredibly diverse....
Its not our country itself, its a couple of politicians with their idealized religious beliefs that they are trying to push on everyone. The government over here is running the country into the ground, the worst thing about the internet filter is there will be no list of actual sites blocked available to the public, which is really bad for reasons I don't think I even need to explain.
I fkn hope the Hackers of Australia will speak up!!!
Every country has religious fanatics (including yours) who are a minority by far but act as if they are the majority forcing there values and believes onto others who don't share them. And yes you are right about them being hypocrites, but by no means is this a US issue alone.
And proxies will become extremely popular there. Good luck with net neutrality guys.
That's because Aussies are so layed back, they say they are "Christian" when asked (and I note that your survey results were from 2006/2007, even if they are the latest or not)
But in reality :rolleyes: They are not church going "religious" practicing people
I can honestly tell you that 99% of all people here don't go to church on Sundays.
So to say that you follow one religion or another, does not mean you actually practice that religion (so it would seem)
So those results show nothing. And can I just throw in another point here, do your best to get rid of "in god we trust" from your coins, it really is pathetic. We have moved on from the 16th century
Back to topic I'm all for the specific sites censorship, as I have kids (I note that most of you probably are kids and have a different view on this)
Yes supervise your young kids, but hello.. just a simple google should not show this rubbish (even on "moderate" settings)
They come home with an assignment to do (on lets say, animals) do a search and get god knows what (I note that the 8th pic out of 150,000,000 with Moderate search on, yielded a naked woman ??? WTH ?) I do note that this is mild.
Sure that's not one of the "sites" that's censored, but what's it doing there anyway? God forbid they search child modeling! Us parents have to constantly not make reference to such words.
So you kids might not see the issue. But us parents are a little sick of the easy access to anything freely available. When I was young :rolleyes: The best we could hope for was a "people magazine". The Internet needs governing and it needs censorship else the children will grow up thinking that this normal behavior of animals and people (being one of the censored areas) That's just sick, and meant as a sick joke, unless some of you are turned on by a horse :dead:
its clear that though OZ was founded by criminals it appears that criminals still rule OZ by passing laws to make things only availbale on the Black market so those criminals can make ez tax free money
I don't believe that censorship is a good thing, especially when done by any controlling party on such a wide scale. Any law that requires people to give up certain rights is not good. They may start off with good intentions, such as blocking porn, malware, etc. however over time they start blocking new and different ideas. Instead of a law like this, maybe resources should be put in place to educate users on some of the dangers of the internet and how to mitigate them.
why not create a a proxy server that you can opt in for filtering
There is a fine line with this, however they already have many laws that we would all consider beneficial for the common good. How about speed limits, drunk driving laws, illegal drug usage, etc. . I have heard many people make the point that these effect others and not just yourself. Well Porn and scamming affect others dramatically as well, and are not just affecting yourself either.
The real reason for censorship is to block anything that the government deems as anti-government sentiment whether it's political blogs, videos, etc.
I agree comp, your 'fine line' is indeed what i called a 'slippery slope'. I believe however, that the Governments control should be minimal....and kept to just the basic things, whereas to keep the 'big guy' from squashing the 'little guy'. The problem I have is that you could extrapolate that out, and rationalize that to apply to anything. you listed drug use as effecting "not just yourself" that is true, however, you could also then say that dad eating to much meat will leave a widow and children behind when he drops dead of a heart attack at 50......so then should the Government require the cholesterol card?
I know where my line is, i would be interested in hearing yours . BTW thanks for debating, and not going on a hyperbolic screed....that's kind of rare around here
That's really sad. Thank god in mexico the government doesn't give a f*ck about technology.