Australian government to censor the Internet by 2011

[Relic]

kimsland said:

I'm inclined to believe you. However, , I think reality disagrees with you at least a *little*.

That's because Aussies are so layed back, they say they are "Christian" when asked (and I note that your survey results were from 2006/2007, even if they are the latest or not)

But in reality They are not church going "religious" practicing people
I can honestly tell you that 99% of all people here don't go to church on Sundays.
So to say that you follow one religion or another, does not mean you actually practice that religion (so it would seem)

So those results show nothing. And can I just throw in another point here, do your best to get rid of "in god we trust" from your coins, it really is pathetic. We have moved on from the 16th century

So because that’s true in Australia, it cannot be true here in the US? It’s the same way (less so in the southeast). From personal experiences everyone makes themselves sound better (who wouldn’t?) but in reality it’s the major holidays when everyone really shows up. Just shows everyone everywhere is usually a hypocrite.

I like our "In God we Trust". Rather have that then Queen Elizabeth II on our coins personally . Putting monarchs on coins is soooo B.C. .

kimsland said:
Back to topic I'm all for the specific sites censorship, as I have kids (I note that most of you probably are kids and have a different view on this)
Yes supervise your young kids, but hello.. just a simple google should not show this rubbish (even on "moderate" settings)
They come home with an assignment to do (on lets say, animals) do a search and get god knows what (I note that the 8th pic out of 150,000,000 with Moderate search on, yielded a naked woman ??? WTH ?) I do note that this is mild.
Sure that's not one of the "sites" that's censored, but what's it doing there anyway? God forbid they search child modeling! Us parents have to constantly not make reference to such words.

So you kids might not see the issue. But us parents are a little sick of the easy access to anything freely available. When I was young The best we could hope for was a "people magazine". The Internet needs governing and it needs censorship else the children will grow up thinking that this normal behavior of animals and people (being one of the censored areas) That's just sick, and meant as a sick joke, unless some of you are turned on by a horse :dead:

I don’t know the average age of the audience here but I’d guess midish twenties. You're right about Google though even on moderate it does have a tendency sometimes to show inappropriate material. But if you as an adult can’t handle that either moderate it with your child or stop using Google and go to a safer alternative. I'm sure you know of some, there are plenty here in the US that are content and censor controlled for children in school, I’m sure you could find something.

Blaming the technology and internet is a bit ridiculous, especially when there are alternatives before needing government intervention into everyone's lives. Giving up freedoms for temporary security for kids which is a nice smokescreen for ulterior motives is just to much for me imo .

But in the end it’s your country and if you like the censorship that's your choice. Sadly though the bigger picture is more important.

 

[Guest]

"Dost thou think, because thou art virtuous, that there shall be no more cakes and ale"

Shakespeare

 

[red1776]

"Dost thou think, because thou art virtuous, that there shall be no more cakes and ale"

as tyrannical as mine seeds may find me, the governing bodies shall not be the censors in my dwelling. I shall be.

Me

....hey, I think I just Shakespeare'd all over myself! :haha:

 

[Sevrage]

So Australia doesn't have nuclear weapons right?

 

[kimsland]

We don't have weapons of mass destruction.

Oh wait, you're talking about Uranium , oh we have loads of that stuff: http://www.uraniumsa.org/about/aust_uranium.htm

In fact, Olympic Dam is the world's largest known uranium resource

Every child gets a free sample to take home with them

 

[wcbert]

No problem with this one, because passing laws and then implementing them is a very slow process. Then, the lawmakers will find out the fast pace of technology has a solution to get around their laws.

Does anyone want to guess what the internet will be like in 2011? My only guess I have it will be more expensive.

Bill

 

[Guest]

The UK government is debating a similiar bill that would censor content it deems as harmful

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html#j158

In China the communist government demands anybody that wants to register a domain to present company seal and a business license

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/331fb794-e9e2-11de-ae43-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1

"“Officials said the measure was part of a campaign to rein in pornographic content, but bloggers and internet activists interpreted it as a broader attempt to enforce internet censorship more heavily,” writes Kathrin Hille.

There is an U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

News will always spin these laws as something good but the reality is it is a lost of personal freedoms of the people. We need less government in our lives because the more power given to governments the more corrupt they will become.

 

[Guest]

Gee, after their internet gets crippled, the Aussies will have to regress to their old school methods of entertaining themselves. By this I mean their cultural proclivity toward suffering, "paranoid delusions of Crocodile Dundee-hood"....!! (en masse).

 

[Guest]

that your survey results were from 2006/2007, even if they are the latest or not)
But in reality They are not church going "religious" practicing people
I can honestly tell you that 99% of all people here don't go to church on Sundays.
So to say that you follow one religion or another, does not mean you actually practice that religion (so it would seem)

Both reasonably and practically speaking, religious affiliation is (or has become) an assigned social status, nothing more.

So those results show nothing. And can I just throw in another point here, do your best to get rid of "in god we trust" from your coins, it really is pathetic. We have moved on from the 16th century

It seems the path to true enlightenment is rife with minutia. Why waste the time, we just ignore it. Besides, the "God bless America" thing gives our leaders another convenient lie to tell. One that so many of the unwashed masses seems to be on board with hearing.

Back to topic I'm all for the specific sites censorship, as I have kids (I note that most of you probably are kids and have a different view on this)
Yes supervise your young kids, but hello.. just a simple google should not show this rubbish (even on "moderate" settings)
They come home with an assignment to do (on lets say, animals) do a search and get god knows what (I note that the 8th pic out of 150,000,000 with Moderate search on, yielded a naked woman ??? WTH ?) I do note that this is mild.
Sure that's not one of the "sites" that's censored, but what's it doing there anyway? God forbid they search child modeling! Us parents have to constantly not make reference to such words.

So you kids might not see the issue. But us parents are a little sick of the easy access to anything freely available. When I was young The best we could hope for was a "people magazine". The Internet needs governing and it needs censorship else the children will grow up thinking that this normal behavior of animals and people (being one of the censored areas) That's just sick, and meant as a sick joke, unless some of you are turned on by a horse :dead:

Hong Kong "wire movies" (Kung Fu) are bristling with violence and gore. However they shy very far away from nudity and sex. That's just silly, on so many levels. Sure, the internet interferes with a puritanical belief system, but really, what's wrong with naked women. I know it scares many women, since it gives their men something to compare them with. I say bring back the old "pig in a poke" Victorian dress code, if it'll make them feel better about themselves. (well that's a "not"). But as to children and the internet, if you're that concerned, perhaps your time might be better spent supervising your own offspring on the internet, rather than pontificating toward censorship on Techspot.

 

[Guest]

Hold on to your bootstraps, America, everyday our government is taking away more and more rights
from the American people. It starts overseas and spreads around the world. We are on the fast track to socialism, faster since Obama took office. So us Americans should not be so smug to think
it won't happen here.

 

[Guest]

I think its a great move that should serve as a roll model for other countries to follow. Consider the mass amounts of violence and age-inappropriate material in the media now, the internet is no different, in fact it is much worse with browser headlines such a yahoo or msn reading like the national enquirer, which means its that much easier for young children to get distracted from constructive/meaningful things. So to defend violence and bloodshed is simply wrong, what's that saying..garbage in garbage out.

 

[Guest]

Irresponsible parents encourage a home atmosphere that allows their children to view such materials.

The move from government is NOT to protect kids, it's to protect themselves because the internet exposes their corruption easily compared to any other form of media. That is why they want to shut off the net or restrict which sites people visit.

 

[Relic]

There is an U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

News will always spin these laws as something good but the reality is it is a lost of personal freedoms of the people. We need less government in our lives because the more power given to governments the more corrupt they will become.

Hold on to your bootstraps, America, everyday our government is taking away more and more rights from the American people. It starts overseas and spreads around the world. We are on the fast track to socialism, faster since Obama took office. So us Americans should not be so smug to think it won't happen here.

While the first article linked is indeed troublesome due to its vagueness, there intent with protecting the US's cyber infrastructure is good. Just the way they are approaching it is not imo and needs to change.

And to the other guest who appears rather delusional...check out the below link.

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/supreme-court-refuses-revive-online-censorship-law

No one is going to censor the internet with fake intentions like protecting kids. This is an issue that both vocal liberal and conservatives unit on (smart ones at least even if they wont admit it). Very much like net neutrality. Unless you're of course Glen Beck delusional and anything the other side does is "NAZI BAD FOR AMERICA AND CAPITALISM"...in which case you might support censorship as long as its not your opinions/views.

And socialism and censorship are not the same thing. The US already shares and has for some time socialist beliefs long before Obama. But maybe you and Craig Nelson are friends who don't think we have socialist programs...

http://money.howstuffworks.com/socialism6.htm

I think its a great move that should serve as a roll model for other countries to follow. Consider the mass amounts of violence and age-inappropriate material in the media now, the internet is no different, in fact it is much worse with browser headlines such a yahoo or msn reading like the national enquirer, which means its that much easier for young children to get distracted from constructive/meaningful things. So to defend violence and bloodshed is simply wrong, what's that saying..garbage in garbage out.

Roll model to give government absolute power over the masses? No thanks, stop being lazy and learn how to moderate. And using violence and bloodshed as a smoke screen is even worse.

 

[WolfKing92]

It seems like Australian government is trying to make sure something is not viewed online. Almost is af the have something to hide. It makes no sense as to why their government would want to monitor what is viewed online. What would they see as "appropriate" there? Depending on the government's views, they could block any site that they wish. Glad I will not be living there in 2011.

 

[captaincranky]

I hear tell the internet is already heavily censored in Iran. This is useful to conceal such joyous social phenomena such as their rigged elections.

Perhaps Australia might hook up with Iran's IT techs. They could hammer out the details or at minimum provide a template for oppression.

Perhaps software to automatically cover any image of a nude woman with a burka.

Oh, and "Baywatch" reruns would be filtered out also. Well there now, who said there wasn't an upside! :haha:

 

[red1776]

Oh, and "Baywatch" reruns would be filtered out also. Well there now, who said there wasn't an upside!

....what!? covering Pam Anderson in her early years with a burka! that's not even funny Cap! :haha::wave:

 

[captaincranky]

Now you stop right there mister, I find implant scars sticking through a bathing suit quite offensive....

....what!? covering Pam Anderson in her early years with a burka! that's not even funny Cap! :haha::wave:

You don't know until you've tried it. I think a new theme song for the show would be in order. "Bouncing Baywatch Boobies on Bounding Babes in Blue Burkas", might be catchy enough to hang on to at least one or two sponsors. Hey, that might really kick a** on the electric Oud........!

 

[red1776]

Now you stop right there mister, I find implant scars sticking through a bathing suit quite offensive....

You don't know until you've tried it. I think a new theme song for the show would be in order. "Bouncing Baywatch Boobies on Bounding Babes in Blue Burkas", might be catchy enough to hang on to at least one or two sponsors. Hey, that might really kick a** on the electric Oud........!

Thou art truly the master of alliteration.....and boobies

or....sand surfing sexies serving cpr on the sea shore......anyone know what the hell im talking about?

 

[captaincranky]

Riding the Waves of Desire............

Thou art truly the master of alliteration.....and boobies

or....sand surfing sexies serving cpr on the sea shore......anyone know what the hell im talking about?

I do..! I think you're trying to say that your life buoy is fully inflated.. !! :haha: :wave:

 

[GameJunkie72792]

I'm not really surprised by this. Pissed off on behalf of Aussie citizens, but not surprised. They elected a socialist president, just as Americans did, and now they're finding out why they shouldn't have.

I dont think hes quite socialist, i know some people who live in Australia and I talk to them regularly. He is a "social conservative"

Honestly i think Austrailia is on a better path than we are here in the US, even if all of there s**t is getting censored.

I do..! I think you're trying to say that your life buoy is fully inflated.. !! :haha: :wave:

I just lol'd

I think thats going in my sig



But i will take this opportunity to say this.

I know several people who voted Obama in, and all but one say they regret it.

I am pissed off at the Americans who so ignorantly threw that trash in the white house.

Im not by any stretch of the imagination rascist, but Im also not by any stretch of the imagination socialist.

Im a born and raised southern republican, and I absolutely cant wait for my chance to vote and get Obama out of there.

:Let the flaming Begin!:

 

[red1776]

I do..! I think you're trying to say that your life buoy is fully inflated.. !! :haha: :wave:

I was going to say dingy......but I like the way you put it better!
:haha:

 

[captaincranky]

Heil George.....

+

But i will take this opportunity to say this.

I know several people who voted Obama in, and all but one say they regret it.

I am pissed off at the Americans who so ignorantly threw that trash in the white house.

Im not by any stretch of the imagination rascist, but Im also not by any stretch of the imagination socialist.

Im a born and raised southern republican, and I absolutely cant wait for my chance to vote and get Obama out of there.

:Let the flaming Begin!:

Really, have we forgotten the "glory years" of George W. Bush so soon? To be brief, all electronic media were being searched without the formality of a warrant, and under the most flimsy of excuses. I honestly don't think the country could have survived a third term with that a**hole, or at least without becoming Stalinist Russia. People confuse "social conservatism" with outright stupidity. I equate it to abolishing the constitution because of a, "Jesus would have wanted us to", "born again christian, propaganda crap-a -thon", which now seems to accompany any Republican candidate being elected..!

To side with you at least in part, without Obama (or any African American President), we wouldn't have Oprah Winfrey's nose up the Commander in Cheif's a**!

 

[Relic]

But i will take this opportunity to say this.

I know several people who voted Obama in, and all but one say they regret it.

I am pissed off at the Americans who so ignorantly threw that trash in the white house.

Im not by any stretch of the imagination rascist, but Im also not by any stretch of the imagination socialist.

Im a born and raised southern republican, and I absolutely cant wait for my chance to vote and get Obama out of there.

:Let the flaming Begin!:

You can say whatever you want, even delusional nonsense :stickout:!

I know lots of people who regretted voting Bush in , think we all do lol. In any case, Obama is far from being a socialist. And if he's even trying to be one...he's failing miserably. And honestly I'm not to pleased with everything he's doing either but given the alternative which would have been McCain, I'm happy he's not there. His time was in 2000 when he should have been the Republican candidate imo over Bush but hey...that illegitimate black child nonsense kinda ruining it all.

 

[captaincranky]

The Ole Gurls Dun Fer John.... Her Head Gaskets Blown....

And honestly I'm not to pleased with everything he's doing either but given the alternative which would have been McCain, I'm happy he's not there.

It was a miserable package deal also. The McCain- Palin ticket should have been billed as, "Shell Shocked and the MILF Queen"! The Secret Service's duties would have had to be expanded to include following Palin around with an air tank, to make sure the air pressure in her head didn't fall below critical levels. What with it leaking out her ears every time she opened her mouth and all. They say if you put her up to your ear, you could almost hear the Bering Sea.

"Maverick, maverick,maverick, maverick, maverick".....isn't sort of like the noise you get when you drive on a flat tire....?

Maybe Mattell will get a doll idea from her, "Over the Hill, and Startin' to Spread, Alaska Barbie", dog sled and binoculars to see Russia sold separately.

 

[Relic]

It was a miserable package deal also. The McCain- Palin ticket should have been billed as, "Shell Shocked and the MILF Queen"! The Secret Service's duties would have had to be expanded to include following Palin around with an air tank, to make sure the air pressure in her head didn't fall below critical levels. What with it leaking out her ears every time she opened her mouth and all. They say if you put her up to your ear, you could almost hear the Bering Sea.

"Maverick, maverick,maverick, maverick, maverick".....isn't sort of like the noise you get when you drive on a flat tire....?

Maybe Mattell will get a doll idea from her, "Over the Hill, and Startin' to Spread, Alaska Barbie", dog sled and binoculars to see Russia sold separately.

:haha: :haha:

Sure you already heard of this site, most of what ya said reminded me of it.