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Computer Crash When I Play Any Game

By gexamb
Nov 13, 2005
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  1. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    what is IRQ exactly and how can it cause the comp to crash. or in your case the sound card interferes somehow. wouldnt this help to for the PCI slot thing:
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic15393.html

    thx for the feedback

    and what exactly is Prove? and wat other god software is their to replace asus probe.
  2. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    i found that my video card is sharing th esame irq with a usb controller. i dont think its a problem but im gona put my video card to an empty irq slot. 11 probably. there is nothing on irq 11 so its ok to put it on that one. i couldnt change the irq from there (device manager) so how would i go about changing the irq. i alos chanhged the agp to cpu controller to standard pci to pci controller. i installed NFSMW again and it wqorled flawlessy. i tried steam it worked well too. batlefield 2 however crahsed from what my brother told me. but its working better that before. should i change the pci to pci bridge back to agp to cpu controller (btw i have 2 agp to cpu which are microsoft and intel, id rather go with intel)?

    yea and i still have dual ram installed.

    thx again.........waiting for your feedback.
  3. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    would this help?
  4. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Normally you can't change resources for most devices. XP does all this automatically.
    Also it is normal to have devices sharing IRQs, although I had maybe 1 or 2 cases where the share wasn't very good and I changed it. But especially for motherboard resources like pci bridge and so forth.
    The main place to start your resource work is in the BIOS. You can usually asign IRQs in there, or "reserve" one. But for you, I would check that IF, IF it is NOT set to all automatic in the BIOS, to MAKE it all automatic. That is, if any IRQs are reserved or set, change them all to automatic.

    But as for whether that would help, well, IF you have an unused IRQ just sitting around idle, then I'd say it would help to have your AGP NOT share an IRQ.
    You also have to think about IRQ priority. Which I may be wrong, but goes like this in order of priority:
    0, 1, 2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

    Although I believe 2 and 7 are one in the same, due to the IRQ bridge. So it's more like 0, 1, 2/7, 8, 9....

    Anyhow, if you can your video card higher up in the priority, that helps too. But never mind me, I'm just rambling right now. I'll just say again that it's best to leave resource management to XP. Be sure the BIOS is set right and if you have a setting called "PnP OS?" or something like that, be sure it is set to YES.
  5. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    thx for the reply, the irq i will probaly leave alone since it is working.
  6. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    i found out that my processor should be 1.40 voltage raiting. mine is usually running from 1.424 to 1.44 and it never changes. so thats a good thing since it is not too overrated from the specs of my processor.
  7. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    im gona get my psu tomorow and i hope all goes well. i pray that it will solve my problems for good. i got a Antec TruepowerBlue 2 480w. this one is pretty good and beyond my required wattage but is a nice thing to have and it has dual 12v+ lines and its sli ready so thats great.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103930

    u can check it out there. ill post feedback when i get it up and runnign.
  8. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    i installed the psu today. i havent tested it out for any games or crashes but there seem to be no more crashes at boot up. anyway the thing is that i cant load the pc up with any fans installed on it. the comp turns on but it nevers boots up, the keyboard lights are alll light up and it stays lit no matter what, the mouse connected by usb doesnt even power up, but the hardrive is working but the monitor is not detected so it stays off even tho the comp is on. but when i take off all fans (4 in total) it loads up fine and everythign is normal. any suggestions?....

    thx
  9. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    btw the psu is connected with the surge protector extension cord, maybe i should hook it up to the wall outlet directly, thx waiting for feedback.
  10. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    You should be in a surge protector, but if it's one of the cheapo kmart (or anyplace) $15 dollar specials, and is more then a year or 2 old, then it aught to be replaced. Those don't last very long and continual surges wear them out.
    In other words, it may be a good test to plug directly into the wall.

    About the fans, that's odd. I would probably try rearranging how then plug in. For example, don't have the 3 fans in line and THEN going to your hard drive. Try putting all the fans on their own line, and the rest on their own lines. If you get me.
    Basically if so many parts all boot up at the same time, drawing their max load, it can cause a delay in how fast the hard drive boots up. And the system may be trying to "post" before the parts have fully powered up. This isn't really a problem much these days, but in the old days most BIOSes had a hard drive delay timer just for this purpose. If you have such a thing, you may turn it on. Otherwise, see if you can plug just one fan, then two etc...
    But I wouldn't think this type of power problem would be an issue with your new PS. Anyway, give those things a shot.
    Maybe even grab a new surge protector. You know, since you're made of money and like buying stuff all the time :)

    good luck
  11. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    i have a good surge protector (belkin). ive tried numerous combinations with the fans and of course with their own line. i out one fan in and it seemed like it was only rotatign at half its rpm cuz it alsmot made no sound but it really goes fast and i can hear it at normal use but not this time. anyway teh delay for the hardrive........... i waited a couple of minutes for it to boot up so that means somthing is wrong. i noticed today that when i pluged in my multi sd card reader into my front usb port, it didnt power up. theres no power coming form the usb port and when i put the cord in and out of the port i can hear like these wierd noises from the psu like its going under load then coming back............this is not normal. thx for the feedback
     
  12. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    You shouldn't really "hear" anything from your PSU, load or not, because the only thing that makes noise in it is the fan. Perhaps you're hearing the fans slow down and speed back up?

    When the system doesn't boot, fans plugged in, wait a few seconds and then hit the restart button and see if it boots then. Or is it ONLY without the fans? That would be really odd if it was just fans that prevented boot, I'd worry about a short in one of them or something. I really don't know, lol
  13. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    sorry it took me so long to respond i havent had my comp working since my last post. it still doesnt work. ive ruled out alot of the components. i switched my graphics card and it still doesnt boot up. ive teseted my hardrive on anoterh pc and it works so thats out. i switched back to my old psu and it still doesnt boot up. ive tries without fans and it doesnt boot up. ive tried without hadrive as well. i took out my sound card and the same problem.

    at first when i booted up i let it run for like 10-15 min and i shut it off bcuz it was late. next day i turned it on and it booted. 30 min later when i left the room and came back i saw the screen is off and the ligth is blinking. since then nothing happened. i think maybe my motherboard got fried after i put on the new psu. i kno i can return it and get a new one but im afraid maybe the psu will fry it again?
    the thing is that this new psu i have supports pci express (has 2 lines for sli support)and it is dual 12+ which is good. the thing is that the spu power uses 1.4v doesnt it? but when i teseted the voltgage with a voltage meter it read 12+v i dont getit? but the rest of the lines were perfect. the 3.3v line was 3.3 adn 5v was 5 and so on.
  14. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    This has been such a long thread, I can't remember everything that happened from the begining. Are we still on the same problem this thread started with? Cause now it sounds like your system doesn't even boot up at all anymore. In the begining it just crashed a lot.

    Since you've tested, and or replaced, most parts, it could very well be a mobo problem. But it's all just guesses anymore. Maybe it's time to just take the whole dang thing to a shop and have them test it all out. Something is bound to be malfunctioning, likely the mobo, cpu, or possibly video card.

    I can't be sure cause I don't feel like reading this entire thread over again to figure out how we got from point A to point B.

    Maybe you should reiterate the problem you have NOW, and the specs you have NOW. And let's start fresh. Otherwise I'm kinda lost now. lol
  15. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    its been hell for me, i kno how you feel. but i gota thank you first of all for even putting up with me for so long. anyway heres what happened:

    when i told u i had a lot of crashes and whatever i thought it was from the psu. i decided to get a new psu and so i did. i installed it and now the motherboard got fried. This is a whole new problem now. the thing is when i installed my new psu i alos cleaned all the components along with the mobo with that air dust can crap. after i cleaned and installed the new psu it only booted to windows only twice. after that the mobo fried and no it no loinger boots. the next day after my last post i sent it to asus and now its under repair/replacement and ill receive a new one until next week in april. my comp still doesnt worl\k so im sorry for the late response but thank you again for trying to help me.

    now when i was testing all my components to see what was the problem after i installed the new psu, i gave uip becaouse everything was working when i tested it on other comps and so on. i only did not test the cpu and the mobo. i figured the cpu was fine cuz everytime i took out the cpu power none of the cdroms or the hardrives turned on. but when the cpu power was plugged in the drives and the hardrive turned on and was working. so all was left was the mobo so i took it out and got it ready to be shipped. i found out that when i sprayed the dust can crap i sprayed some of the liquid inside on one of the mobo chips. it left a nasty green residue. it was all over a black mobo chip and i guess it shorted out the circuits while it was still wet or it just overheated. anyway i got onw problem solved so ill report back when i get the new mobo in april.

    thank you
  16. gexamb

    gexamb TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 129

    ok i got my new mobo. everything loaded up fine and everything is working, fans and all. no more boot hangs and crashes so far. thank god finally im done. id like to thank you once again vigilante for your help and the time u put in to your responses. thx again to everyone and of course to TechSpot for this great place to share our problems and responses.

    THANK YOU!
  17. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Glad to hear it. Your very welcome. I can stop crying at night :)

    Sometimes to get from point A to point B, you have to travel to point Z and back.
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