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Demonoid operators arrested in Mexico, Anonymous vows revenge

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  1. CaptLiberty Newcomer, in training

    Most of us don't mind paying for our products. What I mind is the artist getting pennies while the record companies get dollars. Why should I enrich the corporations?

    I feel the same about all products. Levi's cost a buck or so to make? And Levi wants $40 for them? Come on. A CD is made for pennies, the artist is paid in nickles, and the record company keeps $10 on every sale? Tell me that's fair.

    What we want is a fair price, and fair renumeration for the artist. You'll note that some artists have gone web only for distribution and cut the robber record companies out all together.

    I've seen touring artists locally selling their self pressed CD's for $10, which I gladly pay, because I know the ARTIST gets the proceeds.
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  2. I'm not sure whats scarier the fact that good websites are being shutdown.,.MLB and NFL blackout all my fav team games....PS3 rips you off....PC sharing was 1 place we had something....now its going....going .....gone......soon.......but what scares me is the closed minded sheep /voters that are supporting the prosecution and oppression ......the vast majority of voters are brainwashed media sheep....baaa ......
  3. treetops TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,418   +16

    At least anom are doing what they do because they believe in it. As opposed to the forces on the other side of the coin who were given lobbyist dollars(legal bribes) to create and enforce these laws.

    But I agree Demoniod blatantly and purposely shared copyrighted material and if ever there was a reason for enforcement of these laws this would be it.

    I have pirated but I know its wrong. This isn't like TBH or megaupload where users can share whatever they want and law makers try to target the entire site for what SOME users upload.

    Everything iv(no I do not have extensive knowledge on there uploads) seen demonoid present is copyrighted.

    p.s. Yes I have tried to justify pirating by saying how much they over charge us, but you know the old saying if you don't like it don't buy it. This is entertainment not a necessity like gasoline, food or water. There is no reason to steal entertainment because you do not like the price.

    p.s.s. Yes we can vote with our wallet buy not going to the movie theaters and yes it is a shame that other people over paying will result in MY movie cost to be way to high. But that is democracy. Part of its imperfection. Like when slavery existed because the majority wanted it and yes it really sucked for the few, but high movie prices are far from a human indignity like slavery.

    Then again those smuggling slaves to the north were considered thieves by the south. However as said before they were not stealing for the sake of entertainment. They stole for a necessity, freedom and to stop the oppression of there fellow man.

    HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE RANT
  4. Sharing is caring.. hooray, internet communism! Spend millions making a movie, developing an app or creating a game? YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT! Share it all for free!
    Do some people know how dumb they sound?
    And a passive-aggressive child saying "I'll show them" is one thing, particularly if he, say, goes on to college and makes more money then all those that picked on him. This is more like the passive aggressive child taking a machine gun to services innocent people use because of vague connections to people the retarded child doesn't like.

    How does online piracy have to do with shooting? Last time I checked no one has died because of online piracy. No one has died just because a movie was pirated. Geez MilwaukeeMike's metaphor were pretty ****ing terrible, but your addition to it takes the cake. Ideologically torrents aren't illegal it's what is the torrent contains. The only reason why the judicial system is targeting demonoid is for money.
  5. I want everyone to picture this thought in their mind. Imagine your are building a house...you take a lot of consideration in the planning and cost in buiding the house. Then a person, whom you do not know comes up to you and says," Hello, I have noticed your building a house, may I see all aspects of what you are building?" Now you have a choice: 1) Do you let this person, whom you do not know, come in to your house and see the wonders of your imagination that has come to life, or 2) do you tell the person to bug off and mind his own business. Now, say you let this person, whom you do not know, in your house of your dreams and they look around for a bit and say a few months later you see the same person building the exact same house, just as you did. Would you be upset that your plan for your dream house has been exploited, or would you just let things be. It seems that this whole situation is biased on how people feel about it. I personally agree that some information should be public and some information should be kept away from the public's eye. For example, do you think the say the information on how to build an atomic bomb should be made public. After all we as humans are on the top of the food chain, hence the only thing that can extinct our race is ourselves.
  6. For all of you supporting the take down, you have no idea what this is about.

    Much of Hollywood, the RIAA, MPAA, and other media organizations are the head for funding take downs.

    They are the same greedy corrupt people who infiltrate your school systems and universities and made them into the trash they are today. They are the same people who want to have complete control over the internet. They want a monopoly.

    The point is, pirating doesn't force anyone to "loose" money. People who download software, and movies would likely have "NEVER" bought the video or movie at full retail price.

    It costs less than 25 cents to make a DVD and not much more for a Blue Ray Disc.

    There is no reason a music CD or movie DVD should ever sell beyond 5$ for media.

    But this isn't just about pirating software and media... The issue goes into patents and copyright trolling in which corporations want to have rights to damn near everything you have in your house.

    They want exclusive access to create, build, engineer media and software, completely blocking out independent and small business.

    Video Game developers who have online games that use registered keys have no problems with pirating because you need a unique key tied to an account to play the game online.

    I have faith in Valve, Blizzard, EA, Microsoft in their market system, the rest of the tech world needs to take note. Especially the Movie Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America. Both of these old world trash need to take note.

    And as for copyrights and patents... NO ONE should hold rights to any objects, materials, or designs. It should be open for anyone to create, let the best man create the best product.

    The only thing I support for copyrights is names. I do not believe you should be able to sell products as something they are not.

    For instance, selling Pepsi as a Pepsi when it was not produced by Pepsi. Logos as well, people who hold a copyright on a logo that is an "ACTIVE" produced product. No one should be able to use that logo or something too similar to it.
     
  7. I gave my Demonoid account (u/n and p/w) to someone asking for an account a month after I got it years ago. It's just a really bad torrent site. Half the stuff isn't even in english. I don't know why people want to use it so badly. All I know is I didn't miss it.

    Interested in seeing what Anonymous does in retaliation though.
  8. Anon_Watch Newcomer, in training

    You seem to forget that the Law and Justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty. Sure these Admin will get their trial but I already wonder how much bribes and corruption will be involved. There is little justice here when it is all about market bullying using abuse of the law which can be clearly seen in the Mega case.

    All we have here is some media owner had a bad hair day and Demonoid ends up destroyed because of it. "Corporate terrorism" is a fair term and they of course ignore the vast array of Public Domain and Create Commons titles as they destroy an entire site over just 500 infringing songs not that Demonoid did anything more than say "these exist on the BT network"

    This is nothing more than a War on Infringement and the nukes have been launched so watch as entire websites get vaporised before your eyes. Strange is it not that 15 million US citizens protested against SOPA and PIPA to avoid this very situation but here we are anyway with rich corporations nuking their rivals.

    Then look at Wikileaks when their main site and all their mirrors have been DDOSed off-line for the past week. This is the same time that DDOS started up against Demonoid and you can bet your last dollar that the United States Government has a hand in this UNLAWFUL act when few have resources that large.

    So what does tell us that the United States is armed for a major War and they employ these vast resources for commercial reasons. If you don't believe me then go ask ICANN when they know.

    Anonymous are our heroes. They are the ones who fire back against this injustice and abuse of the law. Anyone can play Anonymous including YOU where 9000 brave souls have already signed up to this Demonoid revenge operation.
  9. To anonymous,
    Honestly, do you gus think you have the resources to stop the governments of the world? Hasn't the wars across history taught you anything? They will keep coming as long as you keep coming. They will not stop until you do or you are shutdown completely. For example, the war in Afghanistan still fight on even after Osama Bin Laden has been killed. Government have one thing that we as people do not, even the richest person in the world does not....UNLIMITED RESOURCES!!! They will keep coming for you and will not stop ubtil you do!!!
  10. The real outrage should be that Interpol under Secretary General Ronald Noble (formerly a US Treasury Undersecretary most known for his whitewash report on the ATF and FBI murders of the Branch Davidian cult members in Waco, where mostly women and children were burned alive) is now a tool for corrupt governments. Interpol used its Red Letter system to get that Saudi Arabian blogger arrested in Malaysia, while he was on the run from blasphemy charges leveled against him by the Saudi religious police. That blogger is facing the death penalty. Interpol gave the captain of the anti-whaling ship "Sea Shepherd" a Red Letter notice on a request from Japan, which is illegally harvesting whales in the Antarctic. Whenever Interpol sells out its integrity, Noble's press agents deny Interpol had anything to do with the arrest. Now Interpol is in bed with the Ukrainian government, a cesspool of corruption whose president funneled hundreds of millions in World Cup construction graft through Belize bank accounts, money stolen from Ukrainian citizens. No need to say much about Mexican President Calderon except that everyone knows he is a tool for the Sinaloa cartel who as President of Mexico was almost certainly was involved in the Fast and Furious weapons smuggling operation. You can bet Interpol has a Red Letter notice prepared for release to its member nations if Sweden gets its hands on Julian Assange.
  11. With all the **** in the world that needs to be fixed, governments focus on this? It just shows you that governments only care about money not the people who live in them. Imagine how much REAL crime they could have stopped if they put their resources and focus onto catching REAL criminals, NOT the average Joe who cant afford software to explore their creative mind, yet could possibly create things far better than rich people who have cash to buy it? I hope
    Anonymous lives forever!
  12. Physically and technically speaking, no one is stealing anything when they download a copy of anything digital based be it music, photos, videos or programs.

    Technically, to steal is defined as: an organism\organization removing access to an object or objects by a different organism\organization whom has a fully legal claim of ownership for the object or objects in question.

    There is only copying going on here, not stealing.

    An utterly sound argument can be made that no human being has the right to own anything or prevent anyone from copying anything. Consider that every human being is purely a copy themselves (DNA) and that the materials they are made of are almost completely replaced yearly. Any claim of ownership of these materials that constitute a human copy either before, during or after "use" are temporary and dubious at the very best.

    All suffering is the result of the ignorance of self-clinging or ego. As long as ignorance is active in the psycho-cosmological foundation of a being, experienced as attraction (greed, envy, clinging), aversion (hatred, jealousy, anger, pushing away) and sloth and torpor, then more confusion and suffering will naturally continue to be an outcome.

    "Ownership" is an idea that exists loosely within the temporary confines of the minds of deluded beings and contains fundamentally no "truth" beyond this highly fragile and superficial boundary.

    Ok?
  13. Work for free? Are you nuts? Even if you say musicians should earn a decent, or even a very good living, are you seriously suggesting that they, and the agents, executives, and other parasitic ticks that infest them should be earning millions and millions of dollars for what they do? Wise up and grow up.
  14. marinkvasina TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 249   +8

    This is just bullshit that you're talking. Demonoid was NOT JUST a pirating website, people who didn't use it gtfo and stop talking when you have no clue what was actually going on behind the scenes of the torrent based website.

    To make it simple: Noone loses money when I get a song/movie/game for free, why? I would have never payed for it in the first place/will never pay for it anyways.
    You should understand that A LOT of people who PIRATE don't even have MONEY to buy any of the stuff that they got for free. Give us a break.
  15. It's really very funny. The vast majority of people would never have paid for any of the stuff they copied. However, the otherwise free advertising and endorsements that would have come from all these people will be completely lost. Popular word of mouth has been proven to be the most effective commercial avenue and in many cases this will now have been significantly diminished.

    Watch and see that as so called piracy is reduced, so will be profits. ;)

    A lose lose situation.

    Then again, the quality of modern commercial media and entertainment is so bad and such a waste of people's time and lives that perhaps this is really a win for the pirates. :)~
  16. The only ones who gain from all this anti-piracy nonsense are the law. Police get to stay employed and alive arresting harmless computer geeks and filling prisons with them instead of risking their lives going after dangerous real threats to society while lawyers and judges pad their riches with extra wads of free money like they always have.

    The real criminals are The Law. How ironic.
  17. Chris Just TechSpot Member Posts: 19

    When governments put people in jail over the same tactics they are using, then I say any thing goes and it is time to make changes to control them and not the rest of us! Yes by any means necessary, Play on and play dirty! They raid or homes, take our money destroy our business all with out due process and all for the love of money. Lets not forget 99% of these cases where actions like this were taken by our governments in the end were found to be unconstitutional by there own courts! I think Aron is wasting there time with DDoS attacks but hay when Sony got hacked and went down for a month do you think it did not effect there bankroll and force there users to find other alternatives like Steam, Xbox and others, and a lot of use stuck to the alternatives and sold our PS3 or don't use them as much. You bet it did! I don't think to torrent is good or bad but it is not about the torrenting, it is about the way ours and others governments go about doing things that is the major crime here!
  18. So, US politicians show an interest in Mexico, the drug violence capital of the world, only when they can chase down some poor SOB who helps people around the world get access to their favourite artists' work. Way to protect the corporate interests over those of the people.
  19. Chris Just TechSpot Member Posts: 19

    Just look at Megaupload and Kim Dotcom watch the raids on his and others homes. The same tactics military use on terrorists all over file shearing when he did not make the files or upload them! Megaupload and Kim Dotcom only let people upload files of any type to share with other. I myself have used them to send files of my art work and videos to large to send any other way like on Yahoo or MSN, ECT. In this case it was found the search warrants were invalid also was the seizure of his home and assets!
  20. marinkvasina TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 249   +8

    Funny how they use the Law against Piracy, but what comes from Piracy? Only money loss, while they should be fighting real crime, all those drugs and terorist... keep going this way USA.