There are more $70 games now than in the past though...And just to be clear, im not defending a $70 game, im not saying its worth it or not. Inflation hasnt hit the game market as much as folks make it sound like.
Short answer, HELL yes! DRM is unacceptable and Denuvo is a garage company. Full stop, end of story.Does Denuvo really deserve all the hate it gets from gamers?
Wrong. It is an issue for anyone who doesn't run their PC to the narrow requirements of Denuvo's definitions. Run your PC with Windows in an even slightly custom configuration? Denuvo refuses to allow you access to your own games. This is not acceptable. Good luck running games with Denuvo on the SteamDeck or other custom hand-held PC's. Hit or miss with those.I think Denuvo is only an issue on those with potato computers.
Oh please...People just need to learn to not try to play games on donkey rigs.
This!! Yes!Instead of trying to shame gamers, why don't you instead shame the companies who insist on putting crap like this into their games?
No, that's a lack of understanding on your part.Shame the pirates that pirate that caused this. It's not the developer's fault for people stealing their product, but yet they should just allow it? That's just stupid talk right there...
And if you actually did that, you deserved to be fleeced.As an SNES kid let me tell ya the only time a game would be worth $5 in ye old days was when you were trading it in to Toys R' Us and the highway robbery they called trade-ins.
TrueNowadays all you have to do is wait, not even that long, and games are at deep discounts. Wait a year or two and you'll get a complete edition for an absolute song.
Yes, there are. Nowhere did I argue that.There are more $70 games now than in the past though...
The % of PC games over $70 is much higher every year… we can’t talk console as copy protection isn’t really an issue - especially for vintage ones like NES and Atari.Yes, there are. Nowhere did I argue that.
The fact is some games cost $70 back in the day but you could never get a new game for under $10. There are more $70 games now but there are also tons of games under $10. The sheer volume of games has increased so exponentially.
I dont think you can accurately say games have increased in cost, they havent outside of collectors editions and special editions. If they had then the norm would be much higher than what they sold for in the 90s. In some instances, they are even cheaper.
Go buy backpack battles on steam, its like $13 and you can easily get dozens of hours on here (im already at 41 hours). Where as the old school nes/snes games, no matter how crappy they were, were never that cheap at launch, ever. And you would likely never accumulate that many hours on some of those games as they were god aweful.
Its not as black and white as "games are more expensive". In many instances, they are loads cheaper thanks to the indie markets and digital distribution.
Cost has gone up on average because of more $70 games but there are also a ton more games and studios producing games outside of Sega, Nintendo and NEC or Atari.
Im going to disagree.The % of PC games over $70 is much higher every year… we can’t talk console as copy protection isn’t really an issue - especially for vintage ones like NES and Atari.
And if you actually did that, you deserved to be fleeced.
When I moved to the east coast, I gave away my virtual boy and nearly all the games to someone for free just because I didnt want to take it with me and thats worth a small fortune now.- Indeed, I turned in 10 awesome SNES games for $20 when buying an N64 + Mario64 and the shame and embarrassment of that stupidity burns in my soul to this day.
Contempt is my shield against FOMO now. I will only ever buy games at $10 or less, EVER. No pre-orders, no day ones, no GAAS, no MMOs, no nothing.
I strongly disagree. The game industry has inflated it's profit margins for years. $70 today isn't $70 in 1997, but mainly the costs to publishers and developers are WAY lower. Digital distribution has delivered a cash injection to these companies the government could only dream of.And just to be clear, im not defending a $70 game, im not saying its worth it or not. Inflation hasnt hit the game market as much as folks make it sound like.
You disagree? How? I really want to know how a game cost $60-70 in 1999 and they cost $70 now days...I strongly disagree. The game industry has inflated it's profit margins for years. $70 today isn't $70 in 1997, but mainly the costs to publishers and developers are WAY lower. Digital distribution has delivered a cash injection to these companies the government could only dream of.
It's not the struggling I does charging $70+ for a game. It's the AAA studios taking in BILLIONS in revenue that are pumping up prices, to keep shareholders happy.
You are a nice person aren’t you.And if you actually did that, you deserved to be fleeced.
Prove it - no one has been able to in decades…
Actually they could… and did… it was simply not in the tobacco company’s interests to have it known - so the findings were repressed.They couldn’t prove smoking gave people lung cancer either. Until they did.
I'm a person who faces reality head on. Life isn't always nice, nor are all the people in the world. Anyone who walks around expecting the world to be nice to them all the time is doomed to live life the perpetual victim. Evidence you say?You are a nice person aren’t you.
Yes.They couldn’t prove smoking gave people lung cancer either. Until they did.
At least you learned a few valuable lessons. That's more than many get.- Indeed, I turned in 10 awesome SNES games for $20 when buying an N64 + Mario64 and the shame and embarrassment of that stupidity burns in my soul to this day.
Contempt is my shield against FOMO now. I will only ever buy games at $10 or less, EVER. No pre-orders, no day ones, no GAAS, no MMOs, no nothing.
The PERCENTAGE of games costing above $60 has increased though. Yes there were always a FEW games that cost that much - but it is rising.You disagree? How? I really want to know how a game cost $60-70 in 1999 and they cost $70 now days...
Fact is, some games cost $70 in 1999. They costing $70 now means the prices hasnt gone up. How many $10 indie games were you playing back then?
What is it with you guys? Math isnt that hard.
Yes, thats obviously true because there are more developers and more games coming out now than any time in history. of course there are more $60 games.The PERCENTAGE of games costing above $60 has increased though. Yes there were always a FEW games that cost that much - but it is rising.
Remember , this is about copyright protection - and therefore console games DO NOT COUNT as they do not have Denovo.
True, they have other forms of copy protection and all of them nearly as offensive.Remember , this is about copyright protection - and therefore console games DO NOT COUNT as they do not have Denovo.
Apparently you don’t understand the meaning of PERCENTAGE- maybe look it up?Yes, thats obviously true because there are more developers and more games coming out now than any time in history. of course there are more $60 games.
That is not indicative of games COSTING MORE. There are more cheaper NEW games now days than in the history of video games.
They would need to be $100+ in order to be considered an increase as they always had the $60 price tag.
I know what percentage means, perhaps you dont know what it means.Apparently you don’t understand the meaning of PERCENTAGE- maybe look it up?
Ill just leave this here for you:Apparently you don’t understand the meaning of PERCENTAGE- maybe look it up?
The PERCENTAGE of AAA games costing more than $60 has INCREASED… not sure why this is hard for you…I know what percentage means, perhaps you dont know what it means.
When volume goes up, %'s change. I can create a % to tell any story I want, it doesnt mean anything.
You are not considering all factors involved with calculating that %. Is 10% of 10000000 larger or smaller than 10% of 1000? Ill await your analysis.
You see, just because there are more $60 games doesnt mean games have gotten more expensive. That doesnt tell anything, your % doesnt show that. It just means there are more $60 games. There are also more $10 games. There are more studios creating games, there are more gamers, more platforms, more everything.
In order to say game prices has gone up, they would need to be more expensive than they have in the past which is not necessarily the case.
This isnt a cut and dry "look at my graph im right" kind of analysis. You need to think about what you are saying and analyze it. If games were more expensive on average, thats great, but there are more games being produced. Its not the tell all.
Back in the 90's how many games were you buying for $10 brand new?