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eMachine motherboard replacement HELP Please?

By EzTechGuy
Jul 13, 2005
  1. REDROCKER65

    REDROCKER65 TS Rookie

    The power supply is brand new. I took the computer to a shop and they said the power supply and the board was bad. I didnt believe them and told them to put in the power supply and Id take it home and try it myself. well...it still wouldnt turn on so now I want to try and fix it myself. I'm about ready to take a sledge hammer to it.

     
  2. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    So we know the motherboard is bad... How does the board in the Newegg link look to you?
     
  3. REDROCKER65

    REDROCKER65 TS Rookie

    its cheap...hope it works

     
  4. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    It should support your 400MHz FSB Celeron, and your PC2100 DDR RAM. It was really the only choice. Intel Celeron D's are 533MHz and 800MHz Front Side Bus speeds... Too fast for your baby
     
  5. bizee

    bizee TS Rookie

    Well my kids C-1904 system won't start, similar to the posts here. This machine has always run hot, in fact my daughter complained since it would warm her room. Got her a laptop for Christmas, moved this out to the dining room for file copying and now it decides to die.

    The fan on the CPU runs, the power fan runs, nothing on powering up, no beeps, amber light on the hard drive indicator.

    I'm not averse to replacing the MB, have done a complete mb/cpu replacement a few years ago, EXCEPT in that case the CPU was already installed.

    I saw the mb recommended on newegg, will this combo work?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185089
     
  6. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    Yes bizee,
    this board will work fine... You should consider replacing the power supply too
     
  7. bizee

    bizee TS Rookie

    Dumb question. I seemed to gather (maybe incorrectly) that a particular ps was required, or a direct replacement for the one in the box. OR will any
    300w ps work? I got myself confused as I searched google for replacments for this particular ps Bestec ATX-300-12E.

    I will try the ps first, then the mb in case its both.

    Thank you for the help.
     
  8. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    Since your power supply is a Bestec, your should trash it immediately and buy a standard 300 Watt ATX power supply. DO NOT use the Bestec to power a new motherboard! You would risk destroying the new motherboard
     
  9. shadowalker

    shadowalker TS Rookie

    Follow up: Well, I got the motherboard I ordered off ebay today and luckily it was brand new and still sealed. I installed it, and there was one moment where I got really nervous when I pushed power and it didn't turn on, but then I realized I had put the LED connection in the power slot and vice versa. Hehe. Anyway, I needed to activate my copy of windows, but that was really easy and I didn't have a problem, and I found my desktop exactly as I left it. I did have a problem trying to figure out why I couldn't get my computer to use my 9250 graphics card, but after much fiddling around I figured out that the motherboard came with a different BIOS layout, and I had to tell it to run the graphics from a PCI slot vs. the internal graphics. Thanks for all the help, I got a lot of info from reading the posts in this thread.

    Is it bad that I'm actually considering purchasing another emachines when this one eventually dies (hopefully not for many years)? lol I'm sure I can learn to build my own, but I don't know if it ends up coming out any cheaper, and besides for this I've never really had any problems. I'll just need to do some research and make sure they don't pull another crappy Bestec situation on me...
     
  10. MarcFOnline

    MarcFOnline TS Rookie Posts: 84

    One thing to be aware of with that motherboard... that's the exact model (Biostar P4M80-M4) that I just bought to replace the blown one in my parents' eMachine, and it turns out it's incompatible with the Willamette Celeron/P4 processors. My folks' 1.7GHz Celeron was one such processor, so unfortunately it will need to be replaced before I can get it up and running. So if anyone reading this is looking to replace an older eMachine's motherboard, just keep that in mind...

    Besides that, though, it seems to be a decent m-ATX motherboard with all the goodies (onboard sound, video, and NIC) for around $50.
     
  11. LouB

    LouB TS Rookie

    Hello All

    Just found this thread while researching what my options are for repairing my father's eMachine T2885

    He called me the other day and said it wouldn't turn on. And sure enough it wouldn't.


    There's a lot of good information in this thread so thanks for that. But I still have a couple of questions and I apologize if they have already been answered here. I just want to be sure I am doing the right thing.


    How can I tell if the motherboard is also no good? I see mention of a green light? Is this the way or am I getting confused?

    What are the chances that just replacing the power supply will solve the problem? Is there anything wrong with just replacing the power supply?

    Thanks in advance. I'm going to continue searching and reading.
     
     
  12. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    It is really wise to replace both the power supply and the motherboard. Your motherboard is the dredded Seabreeze model, and it is well known for failure
     
  13. LouB

    LouB TS Rookie

    thanks for the reply

    seems like the motherboard is a lot more work than just the power supply? people seem to have differing opinions on all this stuff about having a copy of windows, not being able to access the hard drive after replacement, etc.

    I'm barely technical so it's not that i'm intimidated ... i just don't want to waste my time and money

    I don't want to spend more than $50 and it seems that it's going to cost me $100 or more for a power supply & motherboard.

    At that point I might as well just put the money towards another desktop - non emachine of course ;)



    if I pull out the hard drive... can I somehow connect it to my laptop to get the data off of it? or is there another method of getting data off there?
     
  14. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    The motherboard is available from eMachines, with the eProm coded for the recovery disk set. $159.95 as of this morning when I called.
     
  15. LouB

    LouB TS Rookie

    wow.. thanks for the info

    no way i'm paying that amount



    anyone have any good news about my ability to recover the data on the hard drive?
     
  16. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Nor would I. There is absolutely no guarantee that the new eMachines motherboard would be any more reliable than the old one which has a failure rate of over 50% after the warranty expires.
    You can purchase many good motherboard - CPU combinations at various sites for $50 to $80 that will work better and last longer... See www.tigerdirect.com, www.zipzoomfly.com, www.newegg.com, www.outpost.com, www.techdepot.com ... and others... they usually have some very fine "combo" deals that are cheap. On some, you may have to buy memory, so watch carefully to see what may be compatible. Then a version of Windows XP Home is $64 to $84. Your old hard drive will not work in a new motherboard without a repair install of Windows XP Home.
     
  17. LouB

    LouB TS Rookie

    thanks again for the info and options... i will do more research to figure out which way to go
     
  18. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    Go and save for another computer. The motherboard and and power supply are fried. Raybay said a replacement Emachines motherboard is available from Emachines but there is a notation that you will loose all your data installing it. It will cost you a minimum of $120 and a copy of XP to rebuild the Emachines without buying the Emachines motherboard. Any way you go, this is not an easy task for a "barely technical" person
     
  19. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Please keep me informed. I am very interested in all thinks eMachine where failures are concerned... We have 250 failed ones in our warehouse awaiting a decision on whether to go public against eMachines for selling machines they knew were bad.
     
  20. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    I imagine that Emachines will honor any warranty repair or replacement. After the warranty expires, no company will honor any such warranty claim. We computer techs know that certain Emachines hardware combinations are crap, but some, last for 3 or 4 years before failing.

    Emachines are still selling like hotcakes at stores like Wal-Mart, and I'm afraid they always will. The low price is too good to pass up. Many of my Emachines customers allow me to build them modest priced systems to replace their faulty failed Emachines system
     
  21. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    IBM/Lenovo has often honored repair requests on machines out of warranty a reasonable amount of time, provided the problem was a common one that related to manufacturing or engineering failures.
    eMachines is now the third largest computer company in the world... in sales.. The problem with eMachines is they now charge for the warranty. Worse, out of at least 14 models with failed motherboards, they have known it was due to manufacturing defects for which they could have notified owners... or could have extended the warranty. When the warranty is one year, and the motherboards fail between 9 months and 18 months, and it happens in 20,000 machines sold, then they try to sell you a new motherboard with the dame defects for $160 to $211, something is very rong with the company.
     
  22. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    "then they try to sell you a new motherboard with the same defects for $160 to $211, something is very wrong with the company"
    __________________


    This is because they can... If you can you will, or if it can be done, it will be done
     
  23. JulianHBurchill

    JulianHBurchill TS Rookie

    Microsoft confirmed to me today that the license died with the motherboard, no exception could be made. My reply was not so polite. Volume license version then :)
     
  24. rcrjoe

    rcrjoe TS Rookie

    Yet another Emachine fried

    My power supply died and fried my motheboard on my emachine (T2542). I am willing to put another non Emachine motherboard in if I can use my current processor, memory and all the other stuff. I have a new power supply. Will I be able to use my current hard drive? I need to get the data off it though. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  25. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,911   +167

    You can buy the proper Emachines motherboard, but you will see a warning that if you install this board, you WILL lose all your data. Another way of saying this is "you will need to do a fresh install of XP using this motherboard"... "Fresh" installs of the OS always destroy all existing data
     
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