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Fender or Gibson, who makes better guitars?

  1. Fender

    18 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. Gibson

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
By paranoid guy
May 5, 2006
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  1. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Someone asked me the other day "What's the big difference between a €300 guitar and a €1300 one?" I was thinking about it and I wasn't sure if there was a difference that warranted a €1000 price hike. I think I agree with you though, if I'm going to get my fingers cut off by a standard strat I probably wouldn't play it as much and that'd be the worst thing that could happen.
    As far as amps go, I was thinking about going for a marshall but would that be too... metal-y? I don't really need something that'll blow my brains out, yet :D A vox ac30cc, maybe? I really don't know yet so I'd be really grateful if you could give me a recommendation :grinthumb
     
  2. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    Not to offend any Marhsall fans.....but....in my opinion they are a little pricey for what you get. I once had a 4x12 cabinet that got accidentally dropped and the cabinet cracked. It was made of partical board! That was years ago though. But if money is not in the way go with Marshall or even better yet go with Crank!!! I played through one a while back in a music store and I think it is the most amazing amp I've seen in a while. This was a head and cabinet, not a combo. Guess you looking for a combo right? I currently have 2 G600 Crate heads and 2 4x12 Distex cab's with Pyle Drivers and 2 4x12 cabs made by Carvin. Although I wouldnt recommend Crate heads either, some of their combo's are nice though. If money is tight I would check out the line of amps made by Beringer!
     
  3. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    In a perfect world, this is what I'd get amp-wise:
    http://www.cornfordamps.com/launch.html

    EDIT: sorry about that link, it's the mk50h I was talking about.

    only £1999 :haha: I don't even want to know what that is in euros. Know anything good for about €500?
     
  4. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    ahh, i wouldn't buy a behringer if it was powered by jesus christ on a bicycle

    marshalls make amazing guitar amps, but yes they are quite pricey. thier line of bass amps is pretty disappointing if you ask me. a friend of mine has a marshall 120 watt all tube head, and with two 410's it was insanely loud. thier solid state stuff ain't no great chakes, though.
     
  5. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    So who's better, in terms of making amps, vox or marshall?
    I have heard marshalls are a lot more reliable, but is it a case of paying for the name again?
     
  6. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    Go out and try different ones and see what you like.

    Zep...I know you play in a band. I would not recommend Behringer amps in a band scene to anyone! All I was saying that if ParanoidGuy is just starting out playing guitar, and IF money was an issue i would look at these amps. For the money I think they are okay...but then again you get what you pay for!

    Some of my first amps were little Peavey and Crate combo's. And they served me well when I first started playing. In 2 years I graduated to an Ampeg amp and a 2x12 cabinet and thought i was the man! Looking back it was a piece of junk too!

    There is nothing wrong with Marshall amps...If I had the money I would buy them. But then again....if I had the money I would buy a Ferrari too!
     
  7. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Well I've totally worn out my epiphone sg and I'm going to work all summer and get a decent guitar(the fender) and I want to get a decent amp as well. To be honest I never really intended to turn this into a "which amp" question but I might as well ask, seeing as I'll probably forget if I don't :D I'll probably have about a grand to spend(I hope) after I get the guitar. So. What's good?
     
  8. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    As I've said.....go try out some amps at the music stores. For a grand you could get a fairly decent combo amp!! I think that Peavy, Marshall and Crate make pretty decent combo amps. Not sure what you are going after though. Solid state, tube, any particular wattage or driver specs you are looking for.
    Look online at some retailers, usually you can get some really good deals. Look at some pawn shops if you can. I seen a Marshall head and 412 cabinet in one last yeat for $850.00.
     
  9. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Woah, well I don't want to blow anyone's head off...yet :D I'm not in a band, and I'd probably only need a head, 100watt tops. I know, that's boooring :haha: but I I'd feel like an eejit with a deafening stack and nothing to do with it.
    'cept annoy the neighbours :D
     
  10. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    you should invest in a combo. crate makes some alright guitar combos, i believe they offer a 120-watt model with two 12" cones. of course it's a solid state amp, but still a fine amp for an amateur player.

    as for halo71's comment about behringer...i see your point. being that i've never used a behringer outside of a band setting, but i noticed that it didn't vcut through at all.
     
  11. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    paranoid guy....I wasn't saying you should buy a stack, only that you may want to look around some pawn shops. Never know what you may find. I've seen amps all the time in them for sale. Usually combo's though.
     
     
  12. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Maybe, but to be perfectly honest I have a stereotype about pawn shops, most people my age in Ireland do. I was told about a great website though, that ships to Ireland, and it's got the guitar here
    and the amp I was thinking about getting here
    I shouldn't even be thinking about it yet though :( , I'll have to work all summer to get both but...I couldn't help it. I had too much free time in computer class :D
    p.s. I forgot to ask, what does MN and TSB
    mean, after the words "American DLX Strat ASH" ?
     
  13. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    Not sure what MN and TSB mean. The strat I have I inherited and never play it anymore.....That amp looks pretty sweet! How much does that equal in U.S. dollars for that amp. I've never played with a VOX amp, heard of them but dont think I have ever seen them in music stores. 300-watt seems really high powered for a combo. But its been several years since I have played with one also.

    As far as pawn shops go....if you really know what you are looking for or at and what its really worth. You can "sometimes" get some very good deals! I think ZepHead would agree with me on that statement!
     
  14. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    hehe it's only 30 watts. I did that too the first time I read the specs and I did a double take. That price comes to $1326.56, and I actually think that's kinda steep, maybe I'm overlooking something. Maybe it makes my breakfast too :D
     
  15. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    Wow!! That is kinda steep for a combo, BUT!! You get what you pay for, so I am sure that is a kick ***** amp! That is probably an amp you will play through for many years to come also. Does it have pre-amp outputs etc?
     
  16. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    It does indeed, all bells and whistles :D
    As far as effects pedals go, what do you think of this?
    I was reading about it in a guitar magazine, sounds(pun intended)good. :D
     
  17. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,289

    I cant speak for that pedal, looks like a good one though. But you may want to check out the Digitech RP80, its on that website. I bought one about 6 months ago. And for its size and price (about $65 US) its a pretty nice pedal. Many different effects and you can create custom effects as well. Have no gripes about it....
     
  18. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    true, true. i got my bass 750 used from a small guitar shop, and took it the very same day to deltronics and had a technician check it out. for $20 he went through the whole thing and checked the entire thing out. he said it was in great shape and i kept it.

    i advise anyone buying a used amp to have it looked at by an experienced technician. they can tell you what's wrong, or about to go wrong. i paid $600 for my amp, and it's got a tube preamp with a 750 watt solid state power amp. considering that a comparable product today would cost me more than $1,200 i'd say i got a good deal.
     
  19. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Zephead, do you have any idea what this means?(or anyone else for that matter) This guitar here is the one in question.
     
  20. Peddant

    Peddant TS Rookie Posts: 1,644

    Maple Neck - Tobacco Sunburst Body
     
  21. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    :eek: Peddant you are actually unfairly good. Thanks a million though :grinthumb
     
  22. VenoMous

    VenoMous TS Rookie

    I've always liked Gibson's designs better than Fender's, myself. I've played on both Strats and LPs, and they both play comfortably, but for some reason, I like LPs better.

    If I had a choice, I'd probably go with a Gibson Les Paul, or if possible, a Flying V instead.
     
  23. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Great, now you're after tying the vote :p Can you (or anyone) clear one thing up for me about LP's, which one is marketed as the best? With Fender it's obvious that the american deluxes are plugged as the best, but gibson just seem to be out to confuse you. Plus, most top end LP's I've seen were about €3000 even though they may be standard, or supreme, or some other thing. They definitely are the rich man's guitar anyway. No way could I afford one if those, and I wouldn't buy one if I could. Maybe if it was free, maybe :D
     
  24. TonyGuitar

    TonyGuitar TS Rookie Posts: 92

    APX-6NA by Yamaha is to die for.

    Paranoid, My STratocaster **Squire** is great. It lets me play with more ease and expression than most others I have tried.
    Hedrix seemed to like it too.

    There is a **sleeper** in the Yamaha stable. The cut-away electric classic type APX-6NA.

    http://tinyurl.com/kfu7e

    You have to try one in the Music store or pawn shop.

    These are the only two guitars you need and they are not outtasite yet in price. These two guitars are **Different** in nature and sound.

    Ever listen to **Los Indeos Tabajaras**? Paul Simon playing *Angie* on early Simon&Garfunkle album? RY Cooder - Bop til ya drop? James Taylor Steamroller Blues? Pepe Romero?? now lives with whole Spanish family in CA. ........You need a *Strat* to play Chet*s Yakity Axe.

    I*m into the blues, by the way. Duke Robillard and Thunderbirds when they play Bluish like **Scratch My Back** 73s TG
     
  25. paranoid guy

    paranoid guy TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 459

    Then why did you vote for Gibson? :confused: Or was that someone else?
    By **squire** do you mean the esquire strat series? I haven't really thought about them, know a guy who has one though, and he doesn't like it because he wants to play heavier stuff. I'm trying to get into that older stuff, so far I've gotten as "bluesy" as Gary Moore and I suppose Rory Gallagher. Was SRV a blues player?
     


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