Fender or Gibson?

i've always been a fender person myself but my epiphone playing friend is totally for gibson. he said that when he got his epiphone he tried out a gibson too (les paul) and there wasn't enough difference to spend all the extra money - about £1000!!!
i was reading an old total guitar and they had a review for a strat with 2 humbuckers and they thought that it was better than a gibson les paul. if i had a choice between a les paul and an HH strat i'd go for the strat.
fender basses are amazing though, so many bands use them because they're so good. i'm not even a bassist and i know they're some of the best basses you can get.
but if someone walked up to me in the street and offered me a gibson then i wouldn't say no haha
but it's fender for me, all the way :grinthumb
even though for now i have to have a squier... but most of it's fender!

On the subject of guitarist.....I never thought to much of John Mayer until I seen him in concert. You guys may want to check him out also.

I'm still plugging Rory Gallagher, I should be paid for all this promotion :haha:
I don't understand one thing about Gibson SG's, which one is the best? At least fender make an attempt to say which strat is the best. You have the standard strat(€700), then the American strat(€1200), and then the deluxe american strat(€1500). With the SG series, you have the standard, the special, the supreme(which you'd think is the best but it's not the most expensive), the menace, and a pile of other variations. I know I'm only working off the assumption that the more it costs, the better it is, but I haven't played all the guitars so this is all I have to go by.

I own a Fender Telecaster and it really doesn't impress me, not a very rich sound to it. My friend's dad owns 3 Gibsons and god they blow mine away. But i would have to have the "best" of Gibson and Fender in front of me to play in order to compare to really make a decision.

And if i'm correct Gibsons are known as the "rich man's guitar" due to the outrageous prices

Yeah, but how much was your guitar, compared to his?
I'd reckon a $1200 American Tele would beat any $2000 Gibson, but it depends on what sort of amp you're using as well.

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furthermore to the last comment about pricing, it should be known that fender musical instruments corp (FMIC) is a massive company that recently bought out SWR and has several other companies under its control. in the united states, fender has excellent control over the distribution systems as per thier special relationship with musicians friend/guiter center. so while gibson's models generally cost more in the united states, it is simply a way for FMIC to dominate the market. it should be noted thaty FMIC also has extensive lines of entry-level products so they can hook beginning players.

ok...so I'm stuck up

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The American Series 60th Anniversary Stratocaster guitar represents 60 years of innovation.
okay, okay
12 or so words :slurp:

Aint she pretty?

US MSRP for the Stratocaster guitar models is $ 1,642.84

Oh'Yeah, Stevie Ray Vaughn!!!helicopter,,,,so sad

im an ESP guy but i like gibsons over fenders because its more heavy(the sound but it could go for the weight too) and i prefer humbuckers over single coil. I like slayer so im going for a heavy tone.

That would annoy me if they were bad guitars, or I really liked Gibson, but they aren't and I don't. Plus, an american deluxe ash strat(which fender plugs as the best one) costs €1500 in waltons.ie, where the gibson sg standard(which, judging only by the name does not seem to be the best one) costs almost as much!(€1439) So it seems that Fender's control of your market is "protecting" you from Gibson :haha:

I will. The album couldn't be so famous if it was so bad.
and finally@SOcRatEs: What a guitar. I am seriously considering getting that or a deluxe american strat when I get the money. I think I'd get that purely because they won't be around forever.

yes, i'd go with the american-made guitars over the mexican-made ones anyday. they might not seem that different, but the mexes are made to less exacting standards. this means that the frets are usually wider than the fingerboard is, so the little metal edges stick out just enough to tear up your fingers.

most people think this isn't a big deal and buy the cheaper mexican guitar. but after a while those frets will feel bigger and bigger until your hand starts to tear up. for guys that play a guitar for a few hours a week, they probably won't have a problem.

i have an american-made jazz bass and i am glad i decided to spend a bit of extra money, because i play my bass all the time (and sets that are typically 3-6 hours) the smoothness of the american-made guitar is really important to me.

whatever you do, try before you buy!

BTW, what amplifier do you have/plan to purchase?

Someone asked me the other day "What's the big difference between a €300 guitar and a €1300 one?" I was thinking about it and I wasn't sure if there was a difference that warranted a €1000 price hike. I think I agree with you though, if I'm going to get my fingers cut off by a standard strat I probably wouldn't play it as much and that'd be the worst thing that could happen.
As far as amps go, I was thinking about going for a marshall but would that be too... metal-y? I don't really need something that'll blow my brains out, yet A vox ac30cc, maybe? I really don't know yet so I'd be really grateful if you could give me a recommendation :grinthumb

Not to offend any Marhsall fans.....but....in my opinion they are a little pricey for what you get. I once had a 4x12 cabinet that got accidentally dropped and the cabinet cracked. It was made of partical board! That was years ago though. But if money is not in the way go with Marshall or even better yet go with Crank!!! I played through one a while back in a music store and I think it is the most amazing amp I've seen in a while. This was a head and cabinet, not a combo. Guess you looking for a combo right? I currently have 2 G600 Crate heads and 2 4x12 Distex cab's with Pyle Drivers and 2 4x12 cabs made by Carvin. Although I wouldnt recommend Crate heads either, some of their combo's are nice though. If money is tight I would check out the line of amps made by Beringer!

In a perfect world, this is what I'd get amp-wise:
http://www.cornfordamps.com/launch.html

EDIT: sorry about that link, it's the mk50h I was talking about.

only £1999 :haha: I don't even want to know what that is in euros. Know anything good for about €500?

ahh, i wouldn't buy a behringer if it was powered by jesus christ on a bicycle

marshalls make amazing guitar amps, but yes they are quite pricey. thier line of bass amps is pretty disappointing if you ask me. a friend of mine has a marshall 120 watt all tube head, and with two 410's it was insanely loud. thier solid state stuff ain't no great chakes, though.

So who's better, in terms of making amps, vox or marshall?
I have heard marshalls are a lot more reliable, but is it a case of paying for the name again?

Go out and try different ones and see what you like.

Zep...I know you play in a band. I would not recommend Behringer amps in a band scene to anyone! All I was saying that if ParanoidGuy is just starting out playing guitar, and IF money was an issue i would look at these amps. For the money I think they are okay...but then again you get what you pay for!

Some of my first amps were little Peavey and Crate combo's. And they served me well when I first started playing. In 2 years I graduated to an Ampeg amp and a 2x12 cabinet and thought i was the man! Looking back it was a piece of junk too!

There is nothing wrong with Marshall amps...If I had the money I would buy them. But then again....if I had the money I would buy a Ferrari too!

Well I've totally worn out my epiphone sg and I'm going to work all summer and get a decent guitar(the fender) and I want to get a decent amp as well. To be honest I never really intended to turn this into a "which amp" question but I might as well ask, seeing as I'll probably forget if I don't I'll probably have about a grand to spend(I hope) after I get the guitar. So. What's good?

As I've said.....go try out some amps at the music stores. For a grand you could get a fairly decent combo amp!! I think that Peavy, Marshall and Crate make pretty decent combo amps. Not sure what you are going after though. Solid state, tube, any particular wattage or driver specs you are looking for.
Look online at some retailers, usually you can get some really good deals. Look at some pawn shops if you can. I seen a Marshall head and 412 cabinet in one last yeat for $850.00.

Woah, well I don't want to blow anyone's head off...yet I'm not in a band, and I'd probably only need a head, 100watt tops. I know, that's boooring :haha: but I I'd feel like an eejit with a deafening stack and nothing to do with it.
'cept annoy the neighbours

you should invest in a combo. crate makes some alright guitar combos, i believe they offer a 120-watt model with two 12" cones. of course it's a solid state amp, but still a fine amp for an amateur player.

as for halo71's comment about behringer...i see your point. being that i've never used a behringer outside of a band setting, but i noticed that it didn't vcut through at all.