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Frame skipping

By mihai21ro
Aug 19, 2016
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  1. Hey guys, I would need some advice in order to know what's causing frame skipping on my PC.

    In cs go, especially at lower resolutions (currently playing 1024x768 on 144 hz monitor), I'm lagging very bad (tearing or frame skipping and sometimes stuttering). Higher resolutions are way smoother but still getting some random freezes. My fps is around 200-250. This doesn't happen on smaller maps (like aim_map), but it does happen on large, competitive maps (especially de_cache, and the lowest tearing I get on de_mirage).

    I found a video that shows my exact problem:
    , I don't play TF2 but I have this problem in CS GO and sometimes in League of Legends and this is really frustrating. I can barely play.

    I got my pc to warranty, they changed my CPU but the problem isn't gone. I sent it again and they said the PC is running fine, though they didn't test my HDD (they have their own SSD which has their test Windows on it, and they replaced my hdd with their SSD). So basically the only thing that wasn't tested is my HDD and I am thinking about buying an SSD (A-DATA Premier Pro SP550, 240GB, SATA III 600) hoping this will solve my problem.

    My current HDD is an WD Blue 1TB SATA-III 7200 RPM 64 MB. I tested it with a lot of different programs but it passes the tests.

    I did a HDTune test after a windows reinstall and I got no errors, though my transfer rate dropped from 160 mb/s to 80 mb/s in 2 hours of test running, then after the test was done it went back to 140 mb/s or so. I started thinking it might be the HDD when I tried playing League of Legends while unzipping using winrar, and I was getting massive fps drops.

    Some pics: http://imgur.com/TsLjGQE
    http://imgur.com/AfGawhM
    http://imgur.com/nmsh8nk
    Also, I can't put my pc into sleep mode. It basically just restarts. On the old windows when trying to get into sleep mode I was getting a blue screen which looked awful: http://imgur.com/Q60UBS36 , now it just restarts.

    And also, if I get a blue screen ,after the pc restarts I get a message saying "Reboot and select proper device", which I solve by turning off the pc from the button and then turning it on again.

    # sorry if this is the wrong section, I found this topic similar to my problem (http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/frame-skipping-in-most-games.185163/) and it was posted here.
     
  2. EndlessWaves

    EndlessWaves TS Booster Posts: 164   +34

    Graphical corruption on a blue screen mentioning video? I would be far more inclined to suspect your graphics card than your hard drive.

    Have you tried removing the card and using your integrated graphics to see if that has the same issue?
     
  3. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I don't have integrated graphics unfortunately.
    I benchmarked using this site (http://www.userbenchmark.com/) and I got those results:

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 - 50.7%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 660 - 36.4%
    HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 104.2%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 C10 1x8GB - 28%
    MBD: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P

    I have to mention my screen in games is sometimes blurry (noticeable on text) , especially at lower resolutions, but not the whole screen, just a part of it. I took a picture of it: http://imgur.com/bSWQPGM - you can see how good looking "Grandpa" text is, while "South" seems blurry.

    Also:

    - massive fps drops when downloading a demo in cs go.
    - fps drops when watching other players, it goes back when they die

    I have no idea what's wrong. I quote the guys at the warranty: "The GPU doesn't present lag, stuttering or freezes in CS GO"
     
  4. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I am wondering if a HDD can cause bluriness in a game, even in the menu. I seem to get bluriness in every game now, but not the whole screen is blurry, just a part of it.
     
  5. EndlessWaves

    EndlessWaves TS Booster Posts: 164   +34

    I'm not seeing it going black in that video. If you watch it back do you see the effect?

    Tech Report recently had a frame time issue that turned out to be the BIOS of all things:
    http://techreport.com/blog/30506/re...rame-time-results-in-our-radeon-rx-470-review

    I see you're only using single channel memory. Had you only had the frame time issues that could have been a potential cause but I think it's unlikely to be causing the rest.

    I'd be tempted to focus on the graphics card. Is there any chance you could borrow one temporarily or try yours in another machine? It might be worth running some synthetic benchmarks like Unigine Valley/Heaven & 3DMark and see whether they show the same behaviour.
     
  6. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Watch the fps increase to 200+ after the player dies. While he was playing the fps was around 100.

    Unfortunately I can't borrow any gpu's, but I'll try running the benchmarks. I remember running furmark: I had 30 fps locked and I don't remember any visible frame skipping.

    The bluriness problem is going crazy already. In league of legends loading screen, almost all the spells are blurry, except a few where you can clearly see how clear they should be (this is how a loading screen in LoL looks like: https://I.ytimg.com/vi/r4kwbEwZWMA/maxresdefault.jpg ; the spells are the yellow and the purple thing. Some of them are blurry while some aren't. Exactly same thing happening in CS GO. I can't notice any blur in the actual game, at least in CS GO).
    I have to mention that before changing the CPU CS GO was really, really blurry. I could barely see anything. Now it got better, almost no blur in the game (text is still blurry, at least in menu). I thought the blurry problem is caused by my low resolution (I'm playing 1024x768 on CS GO, but in LoL I am playing 1920x1080 and blur persists).

    Yesterday I got into a normal League of Legends match and the UI was looking horrible, it was really pixelated. Happened just once though. Also I got some massive fps drops today while playing the game. The fps basically just dropped from 144 to 70 and it stayed there until I checked task manager to see what's up - hdd was at 45%, then after checking the "performance" tab it was at 100%, might be a windows 10 bug though.

    I changed my MOBO recently thinking the old one was the problem but nothing changed so I guess it's not a bios thing.
     
  7. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I tested the GPU with Unigine Valley. I can't say I noticed any stuttering. It looked smooth and the fps was around 50-70 with a few freezes sometimes, but I can live with that.

    Maybe they replaced the CPU with another faulty one? Can I test the CPU in any way using benchmarks? But I guess there's no way the CPU is still faulty since they just replaced it. They also tested it after replacing it.

    I guess the only remaining thing is the HDD, since RAM is never at 100%. By the way today when I was installing League of Legends I wasn't able to use the PC at all, it was freezing over and over and it was really slow. I checked task manager and it said the HDD is at 100% usage but it was only using 5-6 mb/s , I guess it's a windows bug but the pc was really slow.
    The freezes may also be because of the anniversary update. After the anniversary update I get like 5-6 blue screens a day. It's a known problem though.

    But again, high resolutions such as 1920x1080 feel smoother than the lower ones, at least in CS GO (1024x768 and lower). And as I know, lower resolutions use the CPU more, but do they use the HDD more as well?
     
  8. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    By the way I very often get lag when scrolling up/down in the browser. Also my RAM is at 1333 MHz but it's made to be 1600 MHz, I remember trying to change it to 1600 but it didn't change at all, or I wasn't able to get in windows anymore, can't remember.

    I also heard games such as CS GO, Battlefield load all the world data at the start of the match and don't require much access to the HDD during play..
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2016
  9. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Sorry for triple post, but I forgot to mention I still have that bluriness bug. I can solve it by scrolling up/down:


    It's not that visible in video, but it feels like I see some "waves" on the text when I scroll up/down. You can definitely see in the video how the text seems to move.
     
  10. mihai21ro

    mihai21ro TS Rookie Topic Starter

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