Intel guy looking to change

By PaulWuzHere
Jul 7, 2005
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  1. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 651

    Another reason

    I see you dabble in overclocking ? As your avitar depicts you have your P4 2.0 running at 2.4

    I know that for a fact that the Venice core 939 3000 a has been reported to OC very well up to 2.6 ghz on air. The 90nm process is where its at. Plus you get SSE3 instruction with the new 90nm chips, not on the .13micron.
  2. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    I was actually looking for a CPU i wouldn't have to overclock. As for this P-4 it is hard to get good performance without Ocing. My mobo's Bios hase some pretty nice overclocking features. 2.4 is the higest I can run this CPU tho. I still get about 38*C at 2.4 But It really is a pain getting att the voltages right and getting a stable overclock. Thats why i don't even bother with my 9600xt. They don't overclock well anyway. But the 3000+ I have been looking at has some reviews saying that mobile cpus overclock very well. So after a few months I would overclock but not much to really worry about. It is a Clawhammer. Are those any good?
  3. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 651

    Yes

    Yes it is a good core. I just dont realize why you are here. Yes you are seeking help looking answers on a new system. We have mad it clear on what would be the best for your situation. Yet you seem to be determined to get what your going to get no matter what we say so I must say that I am done with this thread. I have tried to the best of my ability to show you why 754 is not the way to go as have many others. If you want to buy somthing with a dead socket go for it dont say we didnt tell you so.....
  4. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    get a 90nm a64 on socket 939. there's no reason to go with another platform.
  5. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    You know what? I have given it thought and deicied upin a 939. I found some good prices on newegg. I hope this was the right choice...
  6. Justin

    Justin Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,595

    It is the right choice.
  7. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 651

    Cool

    Glad to hear it, your gonna be happy....that gigabyte motherboard I linked a frew posts up would be an excellent match on your buget....Not that its a bad mobo being so cheap it just dont have all the bells and whistles that from what you have said, you really dont need or want.....But is still well equiped
  8. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    I remember reading in a PC modding mag that gigabyte made some "not so good" mobos. Is this true? Cuz I have used Jetway in the past and now and have been more than happy.
  9. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Most manufacturers make "not so good" mobos, they are called budget lines. Get the better lines and you'll be fine. I personally like MSI but they too have some budget lines.

    Also, as a random thought, AGP is still kicking, now with ATI's X850xt PE which outperforms even some dual PCI-x configurations. I am getting that card soon!

    If you don't like the gigabyte, look at Asus and MSI. But get any three of those over Jetway!

    cheers
  10. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 651

    Newegg

    Thats what newegg.com has that little customer review and rating section for. If there is a problem of any kind people complain and that gives them a chamce to do so.....Read them, they come in handy somtimes on a questionable item that maybe lets say is too good to be true......Just make sure you stay away from e-bay unless the item is garunteed new at a decent price.....and again if the price is too good to be true it probably isnt any good. But somtimes you will find a girl selling her b/f's new gaming rig for $50 because he spends more time with it than her :D
  11. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Speaking from experience Jim? lol

    I wouldn't buy this kind of stuff from ebay at ALL. But if you have to, just to save 10 bucks, make sure they are a long time seller, read the reviews, make sure it has warranty, gaurantee non-doa, unopened, etc etc.
     
  12. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    I would flip out if my girlfriend sold my computer. Maybe I should bolt it to my desk :haha: but for real... I am also looking at a new case to put this mobo in. Since my case now can only hold micro atx and I want a bit more room for air flow and expandablitiy. I would like to spend less that $60 without shipping. yet I have found a few good looking cases all the reviews say "easily bent" "weak metal" "flimsy" what I want to know... how weak are these budget cases? and I would perfere one with a side window :D just for style
  13. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    my local shop stocks rip-off cases made by uneec. the one i got was a rivet-for -rivet copy of the antec soho file server case. it cost me $70 (USD) and was just a tiny bit less tough than the true antec cases. i save a good $50, though.
  14. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Keep your eye tight on newegg, they put decent to good cases up all the time on sale. Just check the home page often. I got a case called the X-Blade I think from Atop at like $65. It's a nice case except for a few quirks. Like you can't really put a fan in the fan slot behind the HDDs because then the HDDs won't fit! Unless you get a fan thinner then 25mm.
    And to put in your optical drives, the front cover has to come off, but the panel wires prevent it from coming off nicely, so it's really weird getting drives in there.

    You can also save some money searching for cases that don't come with power supplies, like from www.xoxide.com. That can save a few dollars if you already have a good PS.

    good luck

    As they say "one ill turn deserves another". And thus "one good upgrade deserves another".
  15. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    to bad i have a 250 watt psu lol
  16. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    said psu won't even boot a modern a64 anyways. in fact, i doubt it could be used for any midrange-and-up computer designed within the last 2 or 3 years. when you buy a beefier newer one, make sure it's a name brand model, and has a rating of at least 420 watts.
  17. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    It powers my system with just a little to spare. I am getting a case that comes with an antec i think 480 watt psu
  18. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    it won't for long...just make sure you get said antec.
  19. PaulWuzHere

    PaulWuzHere TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 378

    w00t I am no longer a newcomer lol Well I am hoping to order my stuff real soon. So far I am going with a midtower case and a 480 psu also 939 mobo with Agp 8x and an Athlon 3000+. I am going a little above my budget but oh well. and sugestions?
  20. truflip

    truflip Newcomer, in training Posts: 590

    VNF4Ultra Mobo =]
  21. vnf4ultra

    vnf4ultra TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,195

    You referring to me?
    Just kidding.

    The vnf4ultra is awesome for the price(sometimes $80 on sale at the egg). It only lacks firewire IMO.
    Flash to bios 4 and you have good oc'ing(assuming you have a good oc'ing chip).
  22. truflip

    truflip Newcomer, in training Posts: 590

    i dont have anything mobile whatsoever that uses firewire.. really though, what popular item uses firewire?

    neway USB2 is faster.. just that firewire has bigger bandwidth.. is that right? correct me if im wrong
  23. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Actually I thought USB2.0 was faster then Firewire by a smidgeon. But you'll find Firewire on just about every digital camcorder and video device. But most all come with USB 2.0 now anyway.

    Firewire may go the way of the dodo. Cause I think, may be wrong, that, unlike USB, Firewire has licensing issues..? While USB is free, so to speak. May be wrong on that though.
  24. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,483

    usb has a theoretical maximum speed of 480mpbs, whereas firewire has a maximum theoretical speed of 400 mbps. in practice however, firewire usually averages 60mpbs, and usb2.0 averages 30mpbs.

    so, in practice, ieee1394a firewire is faster than usb 2.0. i've always chosen firewire over usb. back in the day, you had two options: ieee 1394a (400mbps) or usb 1.1 (11 mbps). naturally, firewire was always the better interface, and from the looks of it will continue to be so.
  25. truflip

    truflip Newcomer, in training Posts: 590

    hmm.. is there anyway to stick firewire in the vnf4ultra?
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