Intel guy looking to change

I decided I want that monitor really bad so I am going with 754 with AGP 8x and keep my 9600xt for it is still a good card. I am going to get an AMD 3000+ so I will have good enough performance to last me a while. Any comments?

Are you still considering a mobile cpu?
What parts exactly are you looking at now?
This has changed so much I'm confused.
I thought you were looking for a sempron, then it was a 939, then mobile cpu, then 754. ???

Agp isn't dead, so if you like the 9600xt stay with it for a while. They make 6800ultras in agp, so agp is still good for a while.

Ok the mobile processor I am looking at is an Athlon 3000+ with 1MB of Cache. a new mobo and i might as well get a new PSU. All together I have reverted back to my old budget since i bought this monitor today w00t w00t. 19in LCD. Its niiiccceee yet i feel sick spending so much on a new monitor... So I have $250 to spend on performance. I am open to any and all sugestions from intel and amd users.

Ok

Why are you so stuck on the 754 line now ? There is no reason or logic to go that way....They are the same price.....$146 on newegg.com

Yes ic you want to keep your currant video and that is fine with us....get that monitor you will be happy.

But please inform us why despite all that everyone has said about the 754 you have decided to choose it ?

Are you finding that 754 motherboards are cheaper ? Do you think 939 only supports PCI-E for the graphics interface ?

Other boards on the net saying you are better off with 754 ?

Do some reviews the 939 with a 512k cache still out performs 754's with a 1mb cache

Take a look at the 3700 1mb cache 754. It has the same core speed 2.4 as the 939 3800 with half the cache but the 939 out performs it. Looking at the CPU you would say "hey why the hell didnt they name the 3700 754 a 4000+ 754 ? It sertainly has the same specs as the 939 4000+. But truth is the 3700 is beaten most of the time by the 3800.

So please tell us why your going to go with a 754....Thanks

I can just get a better deal with 754, thats all.

Another reason

I see you dabble in overclocking ? As your avitar depicts you have your P4 2.0 running at 2.4

I know that for a fact that the Venice core 939 3000 a has been reported to OC very well up to 2.6 ghz on air. The 90nm process is where its at. Plus you get SSE3 instruction with the new 90nm chips, not on the .13micron.

I was actually looking for a CPU i wouldn't have to overclock. As for this P-4 it is hard to get good performance without Ocing. My mobo's Bios hase some pretty nice overclocking features. 2.4 is the higest I can run this CPU tho. I still get about 38*C at 2.4 But It really is a pain getting att the voltages right and getting a stable overclock. Thats why i don't even bother with my 9600xt. They don't overclock well anyway. But the 3000+ I have been looking at has some reviews saying that mobile cpus overclock very well. So after a few months I would overclock but not much to really worry about. It is a Clawhammer. Are those any good?

Yes

Yes it is a good core. I just dont realize why you are here. Yes you are seeking help looking answers on a new system. We have mad it clear on what would be the best for your situation. Yet you seem to be determined to get what your going to get no matter what we say so I must say that I am done with this thread. I have tried to the best of my ability to show you why 754 is not the way to go as have many others. If you want to buy somthing with a dead socket go for it dont say we didnt tell you so.....

get a 90nm a64 on socket 939. there's no reason to go with another platform.

You know what? I have given it thought and deicied upin a 939. I found some good prices on newegg. I hope this was the right choice...

It is the right choice.

Cool

Glad to hear it, your gonna be happy....that gigabyte motherboard I linked a frew posts up would be an excellent match on your buget....Not that its a bad mobo being so cheap it just dont have all the bells and whistles that from what you have said, you really dont need or want.....But is still well equiped

I remember reading in a PC modding mag that gigabyte made some "not so good" mobos. Is this true? Cuz I have used Jetway in the past and now and have been more than happy.

Most manufacturers make "not so good" mobos, they are called budget lines. Get the better lines and you'll be fine. I personally like MSI but they too have some budget lines.

Also, as a random thought, AGP is still kicking, now with ATI's X850xt PE which outperforms even some dual PCI-x configurations. I am getting that card soon!

If you don't like the gigabyte, look at Asus and MSI. But get any three of those over Jetway!

cheers

Newegg

Thats what newegg.com has that little customer review and rating section for. If there is a problem of any kind people complain and that gives them a chamce to do so.....Read them, they come in handy somtimes on a questionable item that maybe lets say is too good to be true......Just make sure you stay away from e-bay unless the item is garunteed new at a decent price.....and again if the price is too good to be true it probably isnt any good. But somtimes you will find a girl selling her b/f's new gaming rig for $50 because he spends more time with it than her

Speaking from experience Jim? lol

I wouldn't buy this kind of stuff from ebay at ALL. But if you have to, just to save 10 bucks, make sure they are a long time seller, read the reviews, make sure it has warranty, gaurantee non-doa, unopened, etc etc.

I would flip out if my girlfriend sold my computer. Maybe I should bolt it to my desk :haha: but for real... I am also looking at a new case to put this mobo in. Since my case now can only hold micro atx and I want a bit more room for air flow and expandablitiy. I would like to spend less that $60 without shipping. yet I have found a few good looking cases all the reviews say "easily bent" "weak metal" "flimsy" what I want to know... how weak are these budget cases? and I would perfere one with a side window just for style

my local shop stocks rip-off cases made by uneec. the one i got was a rivet-for -rivet copy of the antec soho file server case. it cost me $70 (USD) and was just a tiny bit less tough than the true antec cases. i save a good $50, though.

Keep your eye tight on newegg, they put decent to good cases up all the time on sale. Just check the home page often. I got a case called the X-Blade I think from Atop at like $65. It's a nice case except for a few quirks. Like you can't really put a fan in the fan slot behind the HDDs because then the HDDs won't fit! Unless you get a fan thinner then 25mm.
And to put in your optical drives, the front cover has to come off, but the panel wires prevent it from coming off nicely, so it's really weird getting drives in there.

You can also save some money searching for cases that don't come with power supplies, like from www.xoxide.com. That can save a few dollars if you already have a good PS.

good luck

As they say "one ill turn deserves another". And thus "one good upgrade deserves another".

to bad i have a 250 watt psu lol