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Is this a good gaming build?

By thehubbapubba
Nov 17, 2014
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  1. Hi. Im about To build a gaming pc and I have came up with This :

    inno 3d ichill geforce gtg 980 herculeZ x4 air boss ultra 4gb GDDR5, DVI, HDMI, 3xdisplayport

    Cooler master nepton 280L watercooling system

    XFX pro650W core edition full wired power supply

    Intel core i7-5820k, 6x 3.30ghz

    Asus x99-a

    Fractal design define r4 titnaium grey window

    Crucial 8gb ddr4 2133 x 2

    is this a good build ?

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  2. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,191   +590

    You should start your own thread next time with the question instead but its decent depending on what your wanting. I am also a bit confused by your wording in spots because it sounds a bit weird.

    Are you just gaming on this machine or do you have other ideas in mind?
     
  3. thehubbapubba

    thehubbapubba TS Rookie Topic Starter


    gaming only and only. 16gb ram just 4 ego
     
  4. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,191   +590

    Then I would probably skip on the 5820K as the extra cores will not benefit as much as a higher core clock for single threaded performance will in games. The 5820K generally does not overclock as well as the i5 4690K, i7 4790K, and i7 5930K which is likely because of its binning process being on the low side. Generally I see limits of 4.2ghz on that processor without resorting to ridiculous voltages which at some point could reduce the life expectancy of the processor. Its a good value and great also for up to 3 GPU gaming but only if you either do a lot of heavily threaded tasks, use more than 2 GPU's, or a mix of the two among other tasks.

    My advice is this.

    CPU: i5 4690K or i7 4790K (Both perform equally in gaming and overclock the same, the extra threads are not very helpful for gaming though so I would stick with the i5 and overclock it to 4.5ghz)
    GPU: That is a good choice of video card, but you could just end up with 2 GTX 970's for about the same price and get well beyond the performance of a single 980. But that is up to you if you want to have multiple GPU's or not.
    Ram: Get 2 8gb Sticks for 16gb if your going for the gold and not getting the X99 platform chips. You can get some DDR3-1866 to 2133 with a 16gb (2x8gb) set that will be perfect for you!
    Motherboard: Get something like an MSI Z97-G55, MSI Z97 gaming 5 (Or higher), Asus ROG board, or similar with 2 PCIE 3.0 slots (only if your planning to add 2 cards otherwise 1 will suffice).

    The rest is just fine and should be great for your needs.
     
  5. thehubbapubba

    thehubbapubba TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I have noticed that the i7 5820k is more powerful than the 4790k. and about that gtx 970 sli, I was thinking that I buy one gtx 980 and when it stars to fall behind then buy another 980 or replace the existing one. Also with the 5820k id have to buy mob that insist ddr4 memory, so id have that extra power. But If im not wrong but does 5820k have problems with multi gpu configurations cause 28-PCI. also in the long run better cpu will survive better. What do u think about that build if and only if (the money is the limit) I changed that 980 with 970 sli, but kept the other parts the same
     
  6. thehubbapubba

    thehubbapubba TS Rookie Topic Starter

    How about this build (Check The picture) its little bit More expensive But it might be worth it. I changed 980 with 2 x 970 and also chose 850w supply
     

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  7. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,191   +590

    Here is the deal, the i7 5820K uses the same Haswell cores as the i5 4690K and i7 4790K. The major difference between them is the amount of cores and threads which in the top end cases the i7 4790K has 4 cores and 8 threads versus the 6 cores and 12 threads of the i7 5820K. This has almost no benefit to gaming because games primarily focus most of the power on the first 2 cores and sometimes the first 4 with rare exceptions and even in exceptions that say a game uses lets say 6 cores it normally is just offloading easier/less demanding process to those cores instead of actually using them which does not really result in better FPS.

    Here is an example of CPU performance in games

    The i7 5820K has overall more power but the same amount of single threaded performance which is what games want more than anything. The i7 5820K generally is harder to overclock because its not binned as well even though its on an upper platform which results in lower performance in games. The i7 4790K will overclock a lot better in the end and get the 4.5+ghz range for overclocking which will result in the max performance in games where as the i7 5820K will be lucky to reach 4.5ghz at all overclocking resulting in lower performance.

    As for the ram debate, the early DDR4 variants have high latency and though use less power the extra speed does not make up for the latency issue. You can get a nice DDR4 2133 set with 16gb for much cheaper and at a better latency.

    The PCIE of an i7 5820K is 28 lanes which can run up to 3 GPU's at 8X PCIE 3.0 speeds which is plenty and will not result in bottlenecks or anything while an i7 4790K (Or i5 4690K) have 16 PCIE 3.0 which is enough for 2 GPU's at 8x speeds. If you are planning on running up to 3 GPU's, then you should go for the 5820K as doing so on the 4790K is hard without using special motherboards but otherwise stick with the 4790K. The i7 5930K and 5960X have 40 PCIE lanes which will run 4 GPU's at 16,8,8,8 speeds.

    I still stand by my recommendation that you look at the Z97 i7 4790K (or even i5 4690K) over the 5820K, you will end up with a better gaming machine in the end for your needs.
     
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