Microsoft: four million Windows 8 upgrades sold in four days
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MarkHughes
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I installed Windows 8 on my desktop (my Main use machine) and found it to be absolutely fine, There is a time at the start where you are a little slow/uncertain but its really very easy to get into and I'm using it very much like I did Win7 now, Don't miss the start button at all as I can still put all my stuff on the bar (same as 7) and all my old stuff still works as before (same as Win7). My only problem of note is my G13 game pad which works, but doesn't feel as responsive for reasons I haven't figured out yet.
I also installed Visual Studio ready for some coding (I'm a programmer by trade but my company won't upgrade to 8 until after a long period of testing) I'm going to have a go at coding some metro stuff (No idea what yet though) So I'm using this as an opportunity to get a little bit ahead of the rest of the company (Never hurts) This may even encourage me to finally get some kind of tablet device...
For those asking, I wouldn't use the word "Faster" to describe the interface as such, but definitely more responsive, more snappy. In fact it was quite surprising to begin with how quickly things react when moved about. Boot times are reduced and I suspect it might be more economical in terms or resource use (Not really had time to check yet though) Shut down also seems better.
Yes, there are things that still need to be sorted to iron out some creases, but overall I'm very happy with my purchase.
My advice, Get it, and set aside maybe half a day to get to grips with it, then use it and don't look back. Old software isn't like old cars.
I also installed Visual Studio ready for some coding (I'm a programmer by trade but my company won't upgrade to 8 until after a long period of testing) I'm going to have a go at coding some metro stuff (No idea what yet though) So I'm using this as an opportunity to get a little bit ahead of the rest of the company (Never hurts) This may even encourage me to finally get some kind of tablet device...
For those asking, I wouldn't use the word "Faster" to describe the interface as such, but definitely more responsive, more snappy. In fact it was quite surprising to begin with how quickly things react when moved about. Boot times are reduced and I suspect it might be more economical in terms or resource use (Not really had time to check yet though) Shut down also seems better.
Yes, there are things that still need to be sorted to iron out some creases, but overall I'm very happy with my purchase.
My advice, Get it, and set aside maybe half a day to get to grips with it, then use it and don't look back. Old software isn't like old cars.
The difference is that windows 8 has no Start button.
Not just selling an upgrade, to sell a new computer... How many Windows 7 updates were sold?
dividebyzero
Posts: 4,840 +1,271
Homicidal Manatee impersonators might need whiskers...maybe not a full mo'.
I'll switch to Windows 10 then since that should be an updated version of 10....much better.
And? Through next year Win8 will probably still be selling pretty well...CoD:MW3 probably not as much
LOL I can imagine all the kids rushing to buy cod.
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I'm happy for Microsoft and all the people who really enjoy Windows 8. I don't plan on upgrading as I find Windows 7 works quite fine and I don't have to alter how I work to conform to Microsoft's ideas. I also recently upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 on another system and I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I suspect that Windows 7 will be my last version of Windows.
Ranger1st
Posts: 348 +123
Win 8 = Ace of Base.. allot of copies were sold.. but very very few will admit to owning the trash..
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MarkHughes said:
"I installed Windows 8 on my desktop (my Main use machine) and found it to be absolutely fine, There is a time at the start where you are a little slow/uncertain but its really very easy to get into and I'm using it very much like I did Win7 now, Don't miss the start button at all as I can still put all my stuff on the bar (same as 7) and all my old stuff still works as before (same as Win7). My only problem of note is my G13 game pad which works, but doesn't feel as responsive for reasons I haven't figured out yet.
I also installed Visual Studio ready for some coding (I'm a programmer by trade but my company won't upgrade to 8 until after a long period of testing) I'm going to have a go at coding some metro stuff (No idea what yet though) So I'm using this as an opportunity to get a little bit ahead of the rest of the company (Never hurts) This may even encourage me to finally get some kind of tablet device...
For those asking, I wouldn't use the word "Faster" to describe the interface as such, but definitely more responsive, more snappy. In fact it was quite surprising to begin with how quickly things react when moved about. Boot times are reduced and I suspect it might be more economical in terms or resource use (Not really had time to check yet though) Shut down also seems better.
Yes, there are things that still need to be sorted to iron out some creases, but overall I'm very happy with my purchase.
My advice, Get it, and set aside maybe half a day to get to grips with it, then use it and don't look back. Old software isn't like old cars."
Excuse me while I stop vomiting for a moment. Everytime I read someone posting the same old tired bull**** about why everyone should love Windows 8 it takes me a minute to re-compose myself.
Myth: People who didn't camp outside a Microsoft store to purchase Windows 8 don't hate it because a start button is missing. They hate it because of an flawed misconception that lies at the foundation of the entire Windows 8 UI, and that is, that you can replace a keyboard and mouse with a finger and everything will remain the same.
The other old tired regurgitated bull**** that I keep hearing is that Windows 8 is slicker, smoother, faster, (sexier anybody). Microsoft should have named Windows 8 "Smooth Pimp" the way you guys describe this operating system. Did anyone ask how they achieved this extra speed? NewsFlash. When you take out code that used to draw rounded edges, and more complex graphic functions, it works faster. They stripped out the whole Aero theme and replaced it with tiles, boxes, squares. Oh so pretty.
If all you people are worried about is faster boot times, start searching E-Bay for an old Atari 2600 or Commodore 64. I hear they boot pretty damn fast.
But I saved the best regurgitated argument for last. This ones my favorite. "Just try Windows 8. You will get 'used' to it". Or as Mr Hughes says, "you will come to grips with it". Just as a freshly incarcerated criminal finds himself adjusting to his new cell block after a period of time. Well, somebody show me the way to the Windows 8 store. I was hesitant about upgrading to it before. But since Mr. Huhges has reassured us all that we will eventually, "come to grips with it". And so many others have assured us all that if you just try Windows 8 you will eventually get 'used to it', I see no reason for me to wait any longer.
Windows 8 is a ******* disaster, period. I have not tried it. I won't try it. And I am definitely not purchasing it.
I will also be watching how many copies of Windows 8 are sold in the next year after the promotional sales end. You know, the one where they were practically giving the software away.
"I installed Windows 8 on my desktop (my Main use machine) and found it to be absolutely fine, There is a time at the start where you are a little slow/uncertain but its really very easy to get into and I'm using it very much like I did Win7 now, Don't miss the start button at all as I can still put all my stuff on the bar (same as 7) and all my old stuff still works as before (same as Win7). My only problem of note is my G13 game pad which works, but doesn't feel as responsive for reasons I haven't figured out yet.
I also installed Visual Studio ready for some coding (I'm a programmer by trade but my company won't upgrade to 8 until after a long period of testing) I'm going to have a go at coding some metro stuff (No idea what yet though) So I'm using this as an opportunity to get a little bit ahead of the rest of the company (Never hurts) This may even encourage me to finally get some kind of tablet device...
For those asking, I wouldn't use the word "Faster" to describe the interface as such, but definitely more responsive, more snappy. In fact it was quite surprising to begin with how quickly things react when moved about. Boot times are reduced and I suspect it might be more economical in terms or resource use (Not really had time to check yet though) Shut down also seems better.
Yes, there are things that still need to be sorted to iron out some creases, but overall I'm very happy with my purchase.
My advice, Get it, and set aside maybe half a day to get to grips with it, then use it and don't look back. Old software isn't like old cars."
Excuse me while I stop vomiting for a moment. Everytime I read someone posting the same old tired bull**** about why everyone should love Windows 8 it takes me a minute to re-compose myself.
Myth: People who didn't camp outside a Microsoft store to purchase Windows 8 don't hate it because a start button is missing. They hate it because of an flawed misconception that lies at the foundation of the entire Windows 8 UI, and that is, that you can replace a keyboard and mouse with a finger and everything will remain the same.
The other old tired regurgitated bull**** that I keep hearing is that Windows 8 is slicker, smoother, faster, (sexier anybody). Microsoft should have named Windows 8 "Smooth Pimp" the way you guys describe this operating system. Did anyone ask how they achieved this extra speed? NewsFlash. When you take out code that used to draw rounded edges, and more complex graphic functions, it works faster. They stripped out the whole Aero theme and replaced it with tiles, boxes, squares. Oh so pretty.
If all you people are worried about is faster boot times, start searching E-Bay for an old Atari 2600 or Commodore 64. I hear they boot pretty damn fast.
But I saved the best regurgitated argument for last. This ones my favorite. "Just try Windows 8. You will get 'used' to it". Or as Mr Hughes says, "you will come to grips with it". Just as a freshly incarcerated criminal finds himself adjusting to his new cell block after a period of time. Well, somebody show me the way to the Windows 8 store. I was hesitant about upgrading to it before. But since Mr. Huhges has reassured us all that we will eventually, "come to grips with it". And so many others have assured us all that if you just try Windows 8 you will eventually get 'used to it', I see no reason for me to wait any longer.
Windows 8 is a ******* disaster, period. I have not tried it. I won't try it. And I am definitely not purchasing it.
I will also be watching how many copies of Windows 8 are sold in the next year after the promotional sales end. You know, the one where they were practically giving the software away.
likedamaster
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That's 2 million more than the Vita sold in almost a year. lulz
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Hurray. Microsoft mad 60 millions dollars in 4 days.
Microsoft's online business unit is losing 2.5 billion every quarter.
Microsoft's online business unit is losing 2.5 billion every quarter.
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DelJo63
Faster, better, more secure - - marketing hype that is always attached to everything new. humbug
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Smoother, faster, safer... not bs:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...er-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/
http://arstechnica.com/information-...er-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/
treeski
Posts: 1,007 +249
Every bit of your already silly rant was nullified by this. Windows 8 is obviously the beginning of a radical shift in how we will (choose to) interact with our PCs. But it's just that, the beginning. Obviously there are a lot of rough patches.
No one is saying you have to love it. No one is saying you have to like it. However, you have no right to complain and rant about a product that you've never even tried.
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Treeski said:
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Every bit of your already silly rant was nullified by this. Windows 8 is obviously the beginning of a radical shift in how we will (choose to) interact with our PCs. But it's just that, the beginning. Obviously there are a lot of rough patches.
No one is saying you have to love it. No one is saying you have to like it. However, you have no right to complain and rant about a product that you've never even tried.
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1)Please point out which part of my argument was the silly part and explain what is flawed about the logic. I actually only put forth one premise in my whole argument. All the rest of my 'rant' was exposing the 'stupidity' of the premises put fourth supporting reasons to upgrade to the catastrophe that is Windows 8.
The number one reason that most people put fourth to convert last minute holdouts to upgrade to Windows 8 is truly the most absurd. "You will get used to it. You will come to grips with it. Etc, etc.".
I could argue that point about anything on planet earth and demonstrated the absurdity of putting forth such a claim as a reason to upgrade to this catastrophe.
You cannot win an argument when the premises are flawed.
You say I have no right to complain about Windows 8 because I haven't even tried it. Wrong. The premise of the operating system is flawed. You cannot replace a keyboard and a mouse with a single stubby, greasy, smelly, finger and expect things to be easier. If they are truly easier then its only in relation to the power that is slowly being stripped away from the operating system to begin with. If all you seek to do is watch YouTube videos with your smelly index finger, then I guess I could concede that Windows 8 no longer requires a keyboard and a mouse.
And from what I hear, without even having tried Windows 8, is that it should no longer be called Windows because you can only really use one at a time, full-screen at that. No reason for me to try Windows 8. I am content enough where I am. Change for change sakes alone is stupidity.
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Every bit of your already silly rant was nullified by this. Windows 8 is obviously the beginning of a radical shift in how we will (choose to) interact with our PCs. But it's just that, the beginning. Obviously there are a lot of rough patches.
No one is saying you have to love it. No one is saying you have to like it. However, you have no right to complain and rant about a product that you've never even tried.
"
****
1)Please point out which part of my argument was the silly part and explain what is flawed about the logic. I actually only put forth one premise in my whole argument. All the rest of my 'rant' was exposing the 'stupidity' of the premises put fourth supporting reasons to upgrade to the catastrophe that is Windows 8.
The number one reason that most people put fourth to convert last minute holdouts to upgrade to Windows 8 is truly the most absurd. "You will get used to it. You will come to grips with it. Etc, etc.".
I could argue that point about anything on planet earth and demonstrated the absurdity of putting forth such a claim as a reason to upgrade to this catastrophe.
You cannot win an argument when the premises are flawed.
You say I have no right to complain about Windows 8 because I haven't even tried it. Wrong. The premise of the operating system is flawed. You cannot replace a keyboard and a mouse with a single stubby, greasy, smelly, finger and expect things to be easier. If they are truly easier then its only in relation to the power that is slowly being stripped away from the operating system to begin with. If all you seek to do is watch YouTube videos with your smelly index finger, then I guess I could concede that Windows 8 no longer requires a keyboard and a mouse.
And from what I hear, without even having tried Windows 8, is that it should no longer be called Windows because you can only really use one at a time, full-screen at that. No reason for me to try Windows 8. I am content enough where I am. Change for change sakes alone is stupidity.
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DelJo63
Opinions are like noses - - everyone has one. There are perfectly valid reasons to say NO without sampling it.
Recall; Parents frequently warn their children
Recall; Parents frequently warn their children
just because the lemmings are going over the cliff doesn't mean you have to.
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DelJo63
BTW: the GUI interface which was created by Xerox PARC, first used by Apple and then adopted by Microsoft,
all contain the WIMP interface;
PS: the Enterprise users are all sticking with Win/7
all contain the WIMP interface;
- Windows
- Icons
- Menus
- Pointer device
PS: the Enterprise users are all sticking with Win/7
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They were all windows 8 testers...hahaha
gingerbill
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They are always going to sell millions no matter how poor it is , no surprise there. Sales have to be judged alongside windows 7 sales., and I assume they will be a lot worse.
I'm happy with 7 , I won't ever buy 8 as I use a desktop and I want an OS designed for my desktop. Hope windows 9 returns to being a desktop OS.
I'm happy with 7 , I won't ever buy 8 as I use a desktop and I want an OS designed for my desktop. Hope windows 9 returns to being a desktop OS.
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DelJo63
Longest BETA test in history :giggle:
Your argument is inherently flawed.
Where do you leave, then, those who have tried it and loved it? I mean, according to you using it must be horrible, right? The combination of desktop + touch under one OS is indeed risky, but only because it's unconventional, not necessarily because it's inferior. Some people can handle this unconventionality and adapt, others don't. And that's fine. I'll go out on a limb here and say you fall in the latter category.
The unnecessarily verbose posts of yours tell me you <I>really</I> want to convince us Windows 8 is a "catastrophe." It won't be. Don't waste your breath. You have your reasons to hate it, fine.
But there are a number of sociological, psychological, and economical factors as to why it won't be a catastrophe. One of them is the the consumer's curiosity. "What is that laptop that turns into a tablet?" Second is, most consuners factor in the price of Surface RT tablets with Office included. The same could be said about someone who already has a tablet and decides to have the same experience on the desktop. Point is, hardware options are considerably more than Vista; MS' rate of penetration with highly differentiated hardware is higher than ever, especially in high tech markets such as Japan and India. Consumers buy and learn. That's not counting the 10+ million W8 upgrades already deployed to large businesses and the enterprise. You must be saying: "That can't be, touch doesn't work on the desktop!" That might be because using Windows 8 with mouse and keyboard is just fine. Different, but not a dealbreaker.
Hell, Vista was bad in the beginning, and it still sold millions. Did it have a bad reputation? Yes. But that didn't stop MS.
MS genuinely <I>believes</I> in Metro. That should scare you, because it means that Windows will <I>never</I> be the same, for better or worse. The trick here is that, lucky for MS, millions and millions of people fall in, you know, the <I>former category.</I>
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Lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said: "
Your argument is inherently flawed."
Where do you leave, then, those who have tried it and loved it? I mean, according to you using it must be horrible, right? The combination of desktop + touch under one OS is indeed risky, but only because it's unconventional, not necessarily because it's inferior. Some people can handle this unconventionality and adapt, others don't. And that's fine. I'll go out on a limb here and say you fall in the latter category.
The unnecessarily verbose posts of yours tell me you really want to convince us Windows 8 is a "catastrophe." It won't be. Don't waste your breath. You have your reasons to hate it, fine.
But there are a number of sociological, psychological, and economical factors as to why it won't be a catastrophe. One of them is the the consumer's curiosity. "What is that laptop that turns into a tablet?" Second is, most consuners factor in the price of Surface RT tablets with Office included. The same could be said about someone who already has a tablet and decides to have the same experience on the desktop. Point is, hardware options are considerably more than Vista; MS' rate of penetration with highly differentiated hardware is higher than ever, especially in high tech markets such as Japan and India. Consumers buy and learn. That's not counting the 10+ million W8 upgrades already deployed to large businesses and the enterprise. You must be saying: "That can't be, touch doesn't work on the desktop!" That might be because using Windows 8 with mouse and keyboard is just fine. Different, but not a dealbreaker.
Hell, Vista was bad in the beginning, and it still sold millions. Did it have a bad reputation? Yes. But that didn't stop MS.
MS genuinely believes in Metro. That should scare you, because it means that Windows will never be the same, for better or worse. The trick here is that, lucky for MS, millions and millions of people fall in, you know, the former category."
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My argument is that replacing a mouse and a keyboard (which is ultimately what Microsoft wants to do - lets be honest) with the same index finger, that you pick your nose with, and expecting a person to be productive is ridiculous. Now, explain by example please, how my argument is inherently flawed?
Most of the people who have tried it and love it are people who love 'new'. The reasons I hear for loving Windows 8 are lame and unconvincing. The most monotonous reason people I hear from the lovers of 'new' is that Windows 8 boots faster. That has nothing to do with the interface. The percentage of time people spend booting their computers is about 1% compared to about 99%. All the reasons people praise Windows 8 just aren't convincing or compelling, however, I would have probably already upgraded to Windows 8 if I had no idea about the interface that was in store for me.
Just for comparison, my last message was about 5 paragraphs, which was almost the same size as your reply. My paragraphs aren't verbose just for the hell of it. They are verbose because I meticulously read every word that people write when they try and defend their reasons for believing that everybody should everybody upgrade to Windows 8 because a few nerds who can't control their insatiable addictions to having the latest and greatest software, no matter its flaws. It's the nerd power users who are vehemently defending Windows 8 the most. Why? Because they want to feel secure in the decision that they have made. If you love it so much, enjoy, knock yourself out.
I've made my decision. I am sitting this one out. In 3 years, when Microsoft releases Windows 9 I'll give it a serious look depending on what I am seeing and hearing through the grapevine. The world isn't going to end if I do not upgrade. Life goes on. I have patience and I have no interest in upgrading to Windows 8.
I could understand Moms and Pops, teenage girls who wants to browse facebook, and causual users liking this move. What makes me want to puke is all the nerds who are dropping their pants and bending over for anything Microsoft releases. It really is disgusting.
And the last thing I would like to say is that Gabe Newell said Microsoft's Windows 8 was a catastrophe, not me. He's a billionaire. You want me to give his words a second thought.
Your argument is inherently flawed."
Where do you leave, then, those who have tried it and loved it? I mean, according to you using it must be horrible, right? The combination of desktop + touch under one OS is indeed risky, but only because it's unconventional, not necessarily because it's inferior. Some people can handle this unconventionality and adapt, others don't. And that's fine. I'll go out on a limb here and say you fall in the latter category.
The unnecessarily verbose posts of yours tell me you really want to convince us Windows 8 is a "catastrophe." It won't be. Don't waste your breath. You have your reasons to hate it, fine.
But there are a number of sociological, psychological, and economical factors as to why it won't be a catastrophe. One of them is the the consumer's curiosity. "What is that laptop that turns into a tablet?" Second is, most consuners factor in the price of Surface RT tablets with Office included. The same could be said about someone who already has a tablet and decides to have the same experience on the desktop. Point is, hardware options are considerably more than Vista; MS' rate of penetration with highly differentiated hardware is higher than ever, especially in high tech markets such as Japan and India. Consumers buy and learn. That's not counting the 10+ million W8 upgrades already deployed to large businesses and the enterprise. You must be saying: "That can't be, touch doesn't work on the desktop!" That might be because using Windows 8 with mouse and keyboard is just fine. Different, but not a dealbreaker.
Hell, Vista was bad in the beginning, and it still sold millions. Did it have a bad reputation? Yes. But that didn't stop MS.
MS genuinely believes in Metro. That should scare you, because it means that Windows will never be the same, for better or worse. The trick here is that, lucky for MS, millions and millions of people fall in, you know, the former category."
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My argument is that replacing a mouse and a keyboard (which is ultimately what Microsoft wants to do - lets be honest) with the same index finger, that you pick your nose with, and expecting a person to be productive is ridiculous. Now, explain by example please, how my argument is inherently flawed?
Most of the people who have tried it and love it are people who love 'new'. The reasons I hear for loving Windows 8 are lame and unconvincing. The most monotonous reason people I hear from the lovers of 'new' is that Windows 8 boots faster. That has nothing to do with the interface. The percentage of time people spend booting their computers is about 1% compared to about 99%. All the reasons people praise Windows 8 just aren't convincing or compelling, however, I would have probably already upgraded to Windows 8 if I had no idea about the interface that was in store for me.
Just for comparison, my last message was about 5 paragraphs, which was almost the same size as your reply. My paragraphs aren't verbose just for the hell of it. They are verbose because I meticulously read every word that people write when they try and defend their reasons for believing that everybody should everybody upgrade to Windows 8 because a few nerds who can't control their insatiable addictions to having the latest and greatest software, no matter its flaws. It's the nerd power users who are vehemently defending Windows 8 the most. Why? Because they want to feel secure in the decision that they have made. If you love it so much, enjoy, knock yourself out.
I've made my decision. I am sitting this one out. In 3 years, when Microsoft releases Windows 9 I'll give it a serious look depending on what I am seeing and hearing through the grapevine. The world isn't going to end if I do not upgrade. Life goes on. I have patience and I have no interest in upgrading to Windows 8.
I could understand Moms and Pops, teenage girls who wants to browse facebook, and causual users liking this move. What makes me want to puke is all the nerds who are dropping their pants and bending over for anything Microsoft releases. It really is disgusting.
And the last thing I would like to say is that Gabe Newell said Microsoft's Windows 8 was a catastrophe, not me. He's a billionaire. You want me to give his words a second thought.
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Scavengers wrote: "Once you get over the interface change and learn to set it up how you like it Windows 8 is just damn slick."
Slick? Name me 10 major improvements over Windows 7 that are not Metro related that ordinary people would care about, that makes the jump in the air, good luck!
Slick, because Metro is slick? No, Metro is new and like every new system it needs to mature, like Windows did and just like Office did, not to mention that there are hardly any applications available for Metro.
Right now there is nothing "slick" about Windows 8, it's not being a hater, it's being a realist who focuses on the facts.
Slick? Name me 10 major improvements over Windows 7 that are not Metro related that ordinary people would care about, that makes the jump in the air, good luck!
Slick, because Metro is slick? No, Metro is new and like every new system it needs to mature, like Windows did and just like Office did, not to mention that there are hardly any applications available for Metro.
Right now there is nothing "slick" about Windows 8, it's not being a hater, it's being a realist who focuses on the facts.
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