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Microsoft Security Essentials bombs tests, loses AV-Test certificate

Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Rick, Nov 29, 2012.

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  1. p51d007 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 175   +17

    Use a 1-2 punch like a lot of people do.
    MSE, and Malwarebytes or something similar.
  2. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,960   +357

    I think you missed the subtlety of Mr Hansson's original post. I'm sure he's more than familiar with all of the free offerings. Yes, there are plenty of free alternatives to MSE. They all nag, with "Avira" being the most obnoxious of the "big three," (Avast, AVG, & Avira). IMO, "Avira" isn't worth installing, as the nags are that pervasive.

    The beauty of MSE is, (or ostensibly was), there's no paid version they could nag you to buy, after you opted for the free one.

    My understanding of "Windows Defender", is that it is targeted primarily at Windows OS files. So, arguably M$ is opting to protect its data, before yours. (And feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong).

    "Advanced System Care" which is a PC cleaner, has gone from tolerably cajoling you to purchase it, to outright, nagware / adware. I was forced to remove it, after giving in to its update nags. So, in the AV, cleaner, malware prevention, freeware arena, my experience has been that everybody's nagging more, and giving away less.
  3. I haven't been recommended MSE since beginning. I have fixed a lot of people computers, and they always get problems with virus, trojans and malwares while they have MSE installed. MSE is a horrible product. I always suggest people to buy Kaspersky, but if they can't afford it then I recommend Avast. They never come back after I installed Kaspersky or Avast.... Perhaps I should keep install MSE to make money. :p
  4. JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,461   +307

    I really like it and this is dissapointing
  5. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,960   +357

    You must admit, liking something that doesn't work is, well, a self defeating paradox.
  6. Adnel Newcomer, in training

    Well, quoting sure sucks here, lol. I didn't write that.

    Avast: Right click on TaskBar icon, select Silent Gaming mode... forget for 1 year... and as usual, be careful, no solution is perfect.[/quote]
     
  7. R3DP3NGUIN TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 148

    The only time I recommended MSE, was to AVG goers. otherwise I always used either Avast or Avira. Avira's advertising made me stop using the program mind-you.
  8. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,960   +357

    How exactly would you even go about creating a mess like that, let alone having it happen, "accidentally"?
  9. Jesse TechSpot Staff Posts: 317   +29

    We liked it back when it did work, and are just now finding out that it doesn't cut it anymore. That's why this is disappointing, but you knew that ;)
  10. misor TechSpot Booster Posts: 373   +48

    I used to love avg 2013 antivirus free edition but lately virus definition updates always fail so I uninstalled and switched to avast antivirus free edition.
  11. jcarr11 Newcomer, in training

    I use malware bytes pro and MSE and I never have a problem and they do not hog resources. Malware is only 25 a year very worth it
  12. PinothyJ TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 395   +13

    Your protection is bad and you should feel bad...
  13. killeriii TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 201   +13

    Lol, and here I haven't used virus protection for about 3 years. :eek:
    I can't believe how many people here use it. And multiple types at once too!
    I'm just careful I guess. :p
  14. Trillionsin TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 895   +11

    I've become accustom to installing MSSE and Malwarebyte's Antimalware. I will do a once a month scan with it, and I actually have a paid version of it too, but dont like to keep it running. I leave MSSE running on the other hand during all times as a light layer of protection. Sometimes I'll download Spybot Anti Spyware, but I find certain aspects of its protection annoying.
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  16. dennis777 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 136   +11

    Maybe they did not update the virus definition of MSE before performing the test :p
  17. Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,801   +66

    I'm after a completely nag-free solution.
    You would be afraid of how many systems I find, where either the paid license expired and the users does nothing (even tho she is prompted on every system bootup to do something about it!)
    That's why I used Symantec Corporate Antivirus at work, it is nag-free and we have a license, so it never expires.
    But it is such a bad resource hog that I began switching systems over to MSE...

    Thank you, you are indeed correct, I tried to word my post very carefully :)
    Infact I think this is the best Antivirus, it is what I use for my own computers at home :D http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/Common-Sense-2010.png
  18. I have used most if the free antivirus programs. Avira is the best one I have used. It found stuff the others didn't. I used to have Norton 360. It wasn't as good as Avira free edition.
  19. NTAPRO TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 603   +53

    Aw. >_> Don't really feel like calling a hundred people to tell them to uninstall it xD
  20. marinkvasina TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 249   +8

    So basicly what you're saying, you can't use the best free AV solution because you have to spend 10 seconds every 12 months to register it?
    What has this world come to...