Microsoft Security Essentials bombs tests, loses AV-Test certificate

By Rick
Nov 29, 2012
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  1. Another good point is to stay away from torrent sites. Especially, the free ones. They have tons of viruses. Paid ones have better security, not perfect by any means though. Again, if your goign to take the risk, understand that you now have a greater chance of a virus and you should at least try to protect yourself. Think of it as sex, better safe than sorry. If you don't want a kid where a condom, don't want to get a virus(computer) protect yourself(works both ways).


    Mse was never good.
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,060   +970

    Well, I 'd like to use the old metaphor, "you're preaching to the choir", but somehow it doesn't quite resonate with my situation. You see, I'm an atheist. So for me, religious dogma is its own anti-malware.
    I won't even initiate a search for religion, or anything remotely associated with it, so I kinda think I'll be all right, even without your sage counsel.
    I never cry, nor do I put my tail between my legs and beg for help should my computer infected. I "take it like a man", "admit my shortcomings", and reformat.

    That said, I do think you should join a couple of good subscription porn sites. The benefits of that would be manifold. First, it would get your mind off the pros and cons of organized religion, and second, you'd realize that you're way over generalizing about "erotic art". Third, it might give you something to play with besides a typewriter keyboard. The benefits of which, at this point, would be widespread and appreciated by many.

    For the record, "Malwarebytes" has been shuffled pretty far down the order in this site's prioritiy as a cleanup solution.

    Personally I have it installed along with AVG. I've never received a positive from it, from any scan. Does that mean I've never needed it, or the AVG has intercepted any threat before it got to Malwarebytes? I'm honest enough to say, "I don't know", rather than vacantly reciting its virtues.

    I certainly so do not pay for AV or anti-malware solutions. In fact, I am very unlikely to pay for software of any sort. There is enough freeware available that meets my humble needs. For imaging issues, I pay good money for Adobe's product.

    As for the evils of porn or religion, and how that relates to the world of personal computing, here's a headline:

    "Trogan-Rigged Software Keygens Aggressively Distributed in January"

    And the page I extracted it from:

    This should serve a dual purpose: 1: Grant me some respite from your posting things of which I'm already acutely aware. And 2: give you ammunition to do more of the same.

    I have a small trace of masochistic tendencies, so what? God knows what would happen to my computer if I searched for a solution...:eek:
  4. MeladT

    MeladT TS Rookie Posts: 21   +7

    Yep Avast is really good!

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  5. T77

    T77 TS Enthusiast Posts: 315

    The one thing I still don't understand is why windows update would classify the definition updates for MSE as optional,that way it doesn't download and install it automatically. This could be a potential risk.

    It's update will classify the nvidia drivers as important and download it automatically( almost 200mb). Now why would I need a new driver for my old 9500gt....
  6. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,060   +970

    MSE updates itself automatically. I haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about. Really.
    The updates classified as "important or optional" through Windows update, are for "Windows Defender", not MSE.

    I think you can set update protocol and/or roll back driver updates in "Device Manager".
  7. T77

    T77 TS Enthusiast Posts: 315

    I have just added nvidia driver downloads to the hidden updates list, so I no longer have any problem with that.( I have 275.33 installed and it works just fine, however a couple of months back when I downloaded and installed an update it would cause windows to freeze randomly, so I did a roll back to my current version.)

    Windows Defender is disabled on my pc since MSE has been installed. I'll just upload a screenshot of the "optional" updates I'm talking about...[​IMG]

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