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More details about AMD's Bulldozer-based FX lineup emerge

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  1. TeamworkGuy2 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 195

    Nice, 95W power envelope. Now let's hope they offer comparable performance to Intel's i5 and i7...
  2. ezodagrom Newcomer, in training

    They're not truly eight-cores, the more correct term would be quad-module, but AMD is using eight-core for marketing purposes.
    Anyway, each module has 2 integer cores (thus making 8 cores), but there's only 1 FP unit per module, unit that is shared between the 2 cores.
    A real 8 core would have 8 integer cores and 8 FP units, but Bulldozer has 8 integer cores and 4 FP units.
  3. Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 816   +16

    And then Princeton wonders why he is called a basher... to bash and beyond must be his modo.

    This information is so far so good, talking about amd competing against i7 is good enough for me, assuming AMD will have the price lead (Since their procs has always been cheaper) and most AM2+/AM3 users can upgrade without even touching the memory or mobo sounds pretty darn good.
  4. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,074   +84

    Alas, a new mobo (AM3+) will be required for the new processors. So, it's not as simple an upgrade path as we've had in the past with AMD.
  5. red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,794   +24

    here is a better article on the BD details that Route44 posted a couple of weeks ago. The BD (as far as the forthcoming information) is not about outdoing Intel with "more cores" , its about ,amongst other things, much better multi-core efficiency and communication.

    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1083
  6. Lokalaskurar TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 616

    Oh my God, those boxes are beautiful. AMD sure know how to adapt to a modern market.
     
  7. i dont understand what is new at it? more cores and higher memory speed? thats all?
  8. Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 6,052   +121

    Our ad agency implemented this Intel campaign today and we didn't get a chance to properly test it ahead of time.

    The big ad will still show on occasion but it won't break the site's layout anymore. BTW, it's not a pop up :)
  9. red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,794   +24

    Do some reading. Its a completely new architecture with a new process (32nm)
    They also changed from SOI process to High K metal gate...it in now way shape or form bares any resemblance to the K-10 (athlon/Phenom) CPU's....other than they are both square.
  10. DokkRokken Newcomer, in training Posts: 275

    I just want AMD to get these out so they can focus their energy on making products that attract actual buyers, as opposed to rabid enthusiasts who likely won't buy the chips anyways.
  11. bonniesmith Newcomer, in training Posts: 40

    It's called target advertising, just block the ads and it wont happen again.
  12. war59312 TechSpot Member Posts: 61

    Mehaha, I won't be upgrading my i7 until at least 12 (or 24 threads with hyper-threading) core chips are out. That and when most apps are finally taking advantage of all the cores and GPU.
  13. Technically the 8 core models are 4 core/modules...since one module has two smaller ones so it is essentially a 4 core with hyperthreading done right...
  14. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,088   +194

    Something that could have significant bearing on upgrade paths for people with some Asus 890FX/GX/880G/870760G chipset boards.
    Asus is quoted with this Swedish website (use your favourite translator) as offering Bulldozer compatibility via BIOS update for the Crosshair IV Formula/Extreme, M4A89TD & GTD Pro amongst others.
  15. red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,794   +24


    ahh, good Ole Asus. Where do I per-order my FX 8130P? :D
    What I want to know is there going to be "limited functionality"? or did Asus have some insight into all this? I wonder if other MB manufacturers can/will offer this as well.
    If it's not functionally restraining, and the benches are good...this could be quite the marketing coup d'état for AMD.
    If in fact the numbers are as expected, I for one will order an FX 8130P and a new set Of DDR3 200-2400. It will be the first time in years I will use the same MB in a new build.
  16. Interesting to get some price indications, though I would not count on that.

    I wonder if it is viable and if there will be any Lynx mainboards in mini.ITX format at launch, with/for higher range Llano's.

    I highly anticipate the Bulldozer, it will be even more intersting when AMD releases the next generation of Radeon's.
  17. I took a look at the chart and it seems like complete nonsense.

    "xbit" appear rather ridiculous for posting them, and so do you for parroting it wiithout a hint of criticism.

    E-350 in H2 2011?

    Not to talk about the other content of the chart and how it looks.

    There is no source and I think people should draw their conclusions based on that.
  18. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,088   +194

    The chart is a snapshot of what AMD's CPU/APU product stack will look like in the second half of the year. Are you expecting the E-350 to go EOL (that's "End of Life" for the non-tech savvy) by June 1st.?
    If it makes as much sense as your first observation then I'd say you made a wise choice...and they say there is no such thing as beginners luck!
    You were expecting a validation from AMD ? I think in that case you should wait for what is commonly called a "Press Release".
  19. Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,252   +38

    No, it doesn't show anything conclusive at all. Benchmarks will show if that is a lie, not the number of cores and memory channels.

    There are no reputable sources with numbers yet, but if the rumors hold true, AMD's new architecture will actually deliver better performance than Intel's i7 clock for clock. That would be great for AMD but I certainly won't hold my breath.
  20. Face it, fanboys, AMD blew away Atom. i7 is next.
    You blew your wad on Sucker Bait?
    Everyone loves a big spender.
    lol