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Napster co-founder: war on music piracy is a failure

By Emil
Oct 25, 2010
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  1. Napster co-founder Sean Parker recently gave his thoughts on the music industry and how he plans to solve its problems at the Daily Beast's Innovators Summit – Reboot America!. "The ultimate answer is you have to accept that the war on piracy is a failure," he said, estimating that 4 to 10 trillion songs have been illegally downloaded versus 4 billion legally.

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  2. jjbeard926

    jjbeard926 TS Rookie Posts: 69

    As hard as it is to believe, there are still people that (at least claim) to not know anything about the legality of pirating copyrighted materials. I talk to them all the time.

    Of course then there are also the folks that have never heard of file sharing, P2P, torrents, etc. and somehow have never heard anything about these cases in the news. How could they have missed the Napster cases? The Pirate Bay case? Oh, right, not everyone is a geek and reads tech news. Got it. . .
     
  3. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,355   +402

    What an ***. "It's OK to pirate unless you're using my Spotify program." Which coincidentally has as heavy-handed DRM as anything out there.

    Typical pirate mentality.
     
  4. dustin_ds3000

    dustin_ds3000 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,128

    I haven't heard anything about Napster in a long time. Spotify is not the answer to music piracy. I want to buy DRM free MP3's or even flac files. I want to be able to put that music anywhere i want at anytime.
     
  5. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,355   +402

    Dupe post.
     
  6. Cueto_99

    Cueto_99 TS Enthusiast Posts: 247   +12

    Never heard before of spotify, but, the way he puts it, I don't think I'll heard from it again...
     
  7. "You have no choice," "We've got you by the balls, you'll have to become a subscriber."

    Uhm, no... The consumer has the industry by the balls, and if you want to win them over you have to offer them an as convenient and good value service as you possibly can. Blabbering about your service is going to screw the consumer over and force them to pay is the same sort of arrogance and complacency that led to the downfall of the traditional music industry.
     
  8. gandolf1974

    gandolf1974 TS Rookie

    "the client holds all its music files locked with the program so you can't move it to your mp3 player"

    Umm HELLO RETARD, that is the reason people pirate music. Its so they can put it on their mp3 players!!
     
  9. citac

    citac TS Rookie

    Man if only they realised the average person would buy music if you didnt have to use stupid specific software like Itunes all the time zzz i stoped using Iphone aswell because of Itunes, also Sean Parker is a douche.
     
  10. bioflex

    bioflex TS Rookie Posts: 70

    well u couldn't have said it better.
     
  11. treeski

    treeski TS Guru Posts: 880   +130

    Wow this guy isn't coming across right at all haha.
    Convenience IS a big part of it, but it's hardly everything. The only time I pay for music is when it's from an artist that I am very comfortable with and if it's an artist that regularly produces albums where I like all (or most) of the tracks.
    The only subscription service I might be willing to subscribe to someday is Zune's... since you're basically paying for one CD every month, getting unlimited access to as much music as you want, and you get to keep 10 tracks each month.
     
     
  12. The war on music pirating is like the war on drugs, you just can't win
     
  13. Xero07

    Xero07 TS Rookie Posts: 93

    There are a lot of legal unlimited music services that allow you to transfer songs to your mp3 already for a monthly fee. why subscribe to something that is more limited but you still pay for? Hes right about convenience but what he proposes is far less convenient.
     
  14. trparky

    trparky TS Rookie Posts: 70   +9

    Got news for you dude, there are services that do just that. Amazon's MP3 Music Store along with Napster both sell no-DRM MP3 at some very good high bitrates.
     
  15. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,095   +43

    Ultimately, music should be free. Of course, many people would bash this comment... but when I play my guitar for my friends, I dont charge them $1.99 for 3 minutes after I finish playing a song I wrote for them. I'd be more then flattered if they made copies and distributed it around to their friends as well. If people like me enough, I'd accept donation. Maybe this is why I appreciate Radiohead so much.

    Anyways, this guys idea doesnt sound like it will solve anything. Almost sounds more complicated than iTunes, and I already thought Apple "had you by the balls."
     
  16. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +91

    And the moral of this story is:

    Sean Parker is a douchebag.
     
  17. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    You can still rip any stream coming into your computer anyway. Just like I pressed record on my tape player when a song I liked came on the radio. But hoards of MP3s are a relic of 1995-2005. Right now you can go on YouTube and watch the video of just about any song that you want. Over and over again. It was cool to have 50,000 songs, but as most people have pointed out, our access to media (or information for that matter) has far outstripped our ability to process it.
     
  18. kaonis92

    kaonis92 TS Enthusiast Posts: 117

    I think people are getting sick of DRM (even Apple realized that with iTunes!). The future of his service seems uncertain since the restrictions will be more than the benefits.
     
  19. sMILEY4ever

    sMILEY4ever TS Enthusiast Posts: 156

    Understatement of the day because piracy isn't going away, at least not in the forseable future, it would be too hard/expensive and there are way too many pirates.
     
  20. Sadly, having watched the video he does appear to be a douchebag. However, as a UK user I have to say that Spotify is actually a pretty good. I use it at work and it has a decent catalog and is a polished piece of software (pandora is banned in the UK but we can access grooveshark, last.fm etc which are no where near as easy to use). I've only used the free version but have friends with android phones and the paid version (about $15 dollars a month) and they swear by it so maybe he's not totally wrong.
     
  21. AbsolutGaloot

    AbsolutGaloot TS Rookie Posts: 92

    I'm very sad that the industries haven't learned that this is just like what happened with the tape recorder, CD, and VCR. Change in format doesn't mean death of the art, it just means that the current business model needs to change instead of trying to squeeze the last few pennies out of the outdated model.
     
  22. Elitassj4

    Elitassj4 TS Rookie Posts: 24

    So true man
     
  23. UT66

    UT66 TS Rookie Posts: 144

    He looks like Krusty the clown
    the way he is holding that microphone... not good.
    piracy? pff, music sucks this days, ill stick to Chopin
     
  24. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Maniac Posts: 913   +22

    I am a legal Napster user and they recently informed me that their drmed tracks will no longer be supported. They never gave you the option to download drm free mp3s for these tracks either; you have to burn the wma files to cds, 15 at a time, and rerip them to transfer them to a new computer, losing sound quality to boot. What if I had 1000 of them, would it take a year to convert them? I sure see why piracy took off.
     
  25. LightHeart

    LightHeart TS Rookie Posts: 155

    I was on Napster and had to do the same thing, though I used another program to convert them to MP3 so I would not have to worry about it in the future. Now I mainly use Amazon.com to get MP3 files, it's quick and easy.
     


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