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Nvidia 196.75 GPU driver burning up graphics cards

By Jos
Mar 5, 2010
  1. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 604

    Wow, i will have to check my version when i get home. I don't think i had updated to this yet, but will definitely want to make sure.
     
  2. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello ...

    this look terrible, i'd better warn my friends & customers. it also mean we should be careful with updates & wait a few days for some feedback.

    cheers!
     
  3. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    anyone notice their ATI cards running warmer since 10.2? all 3 of my 4850's topped out @ around 68c before 10.2, now running @80c under full load.
     
  4. bcronin

    bcronin TS Rookie

    I am glad I saw this article. I checked my temps with EVGA Precision and they were running at 100C. Sheesh. I backleveled the drivers and the temps are now back to the mid-40's. This was with a GTX285 in Win7 x64.
     
  5. Vicenarian

    Vicenarian TS Enthusiast Posts: 100   +9

    Another reason not to update your drivers too soon...?
     
  6. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,902   +712

    I think both manufacturers are in a trying-to-run-before-you-can-walk situation to a degree. With a number of new technologies (Eyefinity, 3D Surround, DX11), new release card series and process manufacturing with the inevitable competition and subsequent scrutiny via benchmarking reviews over every fraction of a fps, both teams seem to be overlooking some of the basics in order to fire out better tailored driver releases. Thus we get to a point where an nVidia driver breaks overclocking (196.21) or doesn't auto-adjust fan speed (196.75). AMD of course have their own problems (GSoD, lack of 2D performance and the "ATIKMDAG stopped responding" issue , drivers optimized for HD5xxx series cards having adverse effects on HD4xxx series), so neither is immune from tripping up in this technological egg-and-spoon race. All the consumer can hope for is that both driver teams see these recurring conflicts as damaging their respective brands in the eyes of the end user. The only other alternative is that everyone migrates to.....Intel IGP's :(
     
  7. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    I almost find this comical (if not for the actual damage possible, I wouldn't wish that on any fellow computer gamers). One of the main arguments from the nVidia fanboys is always how their products are soooo stable and their drivers are light years ahead of ATi in quality and reliability...

    So now nVidia's destroying their own last bastion of superiority. Kinda makes you wonder how what is going on with the leadership of the company.
     
  8. goldsnake

    goldsnake TS Rookie

    .....seems that I have to do a rollback to the drivers even though I haven't experienced anything odd. But on the other hand I dont want to find out... :)
    nevertheless something odd for nVidia...
     
  9. fadownjoo

    fadownjoo TS Rookie Posts: 64

    rofl, do they not beleive in tasting their food beofre they serve it?
     
  10. Chazz

    Chazz TS Enthusiast Posts: 634   +60

    This explains my constant system crashing while playing steam games and wow. I RMA's my vid card lawl... I guess it was the drivers fault.
     
  11. boyese

    boyese TS Rookie Posts: 20

    Does anybody know their testing process for new drivers?

    Do they have a fixed ammount of time to 'test' the improvements in games?

    Glad ive got a HIS ATI - HD 4870 x2, ive had no problems with drivers.
     
     
  12. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,902   +712

    It involves writing a lot of code, and supposedly running the hardware to check for conflicts. A more involved explanation for (Windows) driver certification here :http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/winlogo/drvsign/drvsign.mspx .

    nVidia usually have the inside track in gaming driver profiles simply because they have poured development funding, kits, and in some cases, game code into new gaming titles, hence the "The way it's meant to be played" splashscreen that begins a lot of game loading screens. AMD/ATI through lack of funding (and not identifying that software development kits (SDK) given to game developers can lead to a better launchday gaming experience) usually have to wait until a game is released before working on a driver fix/improvement, whereas nVidia through the TWIMTBP program have had the opportunity to optimize the driver before launch.
    This puts AMD under pressure to fix problems fast if the problems arise in a popular new release game title. Having to get a fix out fast is usually not the best of conditions for writing code.
    At the moment there is a lot to driver test for, in addition to DX11, new games,new cards series, Eyefinity, PhysX and 3D Surround, you also have a new OS (Win 7) to code for.

    Good to hear that your own graphics experience is troublefree- long may it continue !
     
  13. skitzo_zac

    skitzo_zac TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 459

    Thanks for the heads up TechSpot. I installed this driver on the day it was released and have been playing CoD 4 and BF: BC2 since then without problems. But upon reccomendation looks like it's time to roll back to 196.21.
     
  14. Renegeek

    Renegeek TS Rookie Posts: 96

    Nvidia should at least pay 3/4 of a exact replacement , for a new card... if not, then nvidia should hire some employees to do just beta testing or something, or just there act together... If i had my card fryed, i would be so so mad, if i lived near nvidia, i would camp out at the HQ, till they replaced my card... (maybe not) but anyways, i would be upset ...
     
  15. The problem with the NVIDIA drivers isn't new, it's been going on well before 196.75 and as far back as 195.62 back in November. That's when my gpu started acting buggy and then failed. Others on the NVIDIA forums indicated that the driver updates re-set the fans to less than 30%. NVIDIA has never responded or defended themselves. With FERMI coming out shortly, NVIDIA should get their act together or everyone may migrate to Radeon. There's no point to be loyal to NVIDIA.
     
  16. eafshar

    eafshar TS Rookie Posts: 86

    im pretty sure i have 196.75 driver on my desktop.. i left my desktop on over the weekend.. hope nothing happens to it.
     
  17. pyari

    pyari TS Rookie Posts: 66

    I never have 3d card but its very bad news to the owner who purchase those cards.....company must responsible for their acts. with out testing the hardware with driver they never have to released it......it can damage their business policies.

    most of the user buy the product with popular brand exceptional case is who doesn't afford brand they goes to cheaper hardware.

    this is the lession for the company.
     
  18. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,902   +712

    Why, because AMD drivers don't suffer from bugs ? Or because you like the idea of a discrete graphics monopoly bringing about lower costs ?
    Was there ever?
    Personally, I prescribe to the "buy the best graphics solution that best meets your needs within your budget" ethos. I'll leave loyalty to dogs and the Swiss Guard.
     
  19. Chazz

    Chazz TS Enthusiast Posts: 634   +60

    I don't really remember AMD drivers bricking your card and potentially your system. No one can expect to have perfect coding everytime, but I think this is a bit serious. As for the buying the best value comment, I feel people should always do that..and if they did the competition between AMD/Intel/nvidia wouldn't be historically one sided as it has been.
     
  20. selphiroth

    selphiroth TS Rookie

    i had the new driver (196.75) about a few days, i just did a check on my gpu temperature which stays around 52 degree.... I must say i will roll back to older version just for safety. Another blow for nvidia again
     
  21. mrtraver

    mrtraver TS Enthusiast Posts: 237   +11

    I haven't had any issues with my GTX260 or 8800GT and this driver, but i'm going to roll back just in case!
     
  22. My 8800GT died as a result of this. Would not be telling the truth if I said I wasn't pissed. I went out and replaced it with a Radeon HD 5770. Would be nice to be compensated for my loss. I never overclocked or stressed that card in any way. I should have gotten more use from it. Sucks...
     
  23. 9Nails

    9Nails TechSpot Paladin Posts: 977   +87

    I can't find any new driver features for my 8800, so I've stopped updating my driver version.

    I guess I missed out. I wonder if Nvidia would have given me a new card if their driver burned this one up?
     
  24. Yoda8232

    Yoda8232 TS Rookie Posts: 145

    What happened to quality control Nvidia?....
     
  25. blimp01

    blimp01 TS Enthusiast Posts: 157

    I thought these drivers were awesome, i got like 40% more fps everywhere, no problems for me i keep my fans at 100% lol
     
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