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Nvidia 196.75 GPU driver burning up graphics cards

By Jos
Mar 5, 2010
  1. AfricanTech

    AfricanTech TS Rookie Posts: 71

    Hmm, this is why I wait at least a week before upgrading hardware level drivers.
     
  2. ryan29121

    ryan29121 TS Enthusiast Posts: 182

    I downloaded this driver and did suffer really bad frames in WoW. Luckily my temperatures were not bad. I reverted back to the old drivers. How did Nvidia allow this to slip through the cracks?
     
  3. Wabinaki

    Wabinaki TS Rookie

    Im glad i read this since just a few weeks ago i was doing a driver search to see if there were new drivers that were released, the havock the bad driver would have caused me would have drivin me to drink again lol
     
  4. Kovach

    Kovach TS Rookie Posts: 44

    Somehow I downloaded 196.21 yesterday, so I hope I was lucky :)...It's just nvidia misstake like we see everyday by millions of other manufacturers.
     
  5. EduardsN

    EduardsN TS Rookie Posts: 56

    Mine never runs above 50C, no aftermarket stuff either
     
  6. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,815   +921

    Ya know, this reminds me of the Toyota recalls. Before the recalls, nobody even heard of runaway acceleration. Now it seems everybody's Toyota is completely out of control. Nothin' I like better than the smell of blood in the water, and nothin' gives me a bigger orgasm than the thought of an impending lawsuit.

    I don't suppose any of these video cards that burned up could have been, um like, already overclocked or anything? In too small of a case maybe? Poor ventilation?

    Actually, it sounds like Nvidia was cleansing the hive as it were, casting out the sick, the weak, and the lame!
     
  7. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    I hope the Toyota's don't come with Firestone's

    don't forget cigarette smoke. an acquaintance of mine wanted me to look at his machine a couple of weeks ago. His CPU was running at 86c, and his Graphics card was at 117c. not that he knew that, he just said it was acting funny. upon removing the left side of this thing the inside looked like one big grey bunny slipper. when I asked him when was the last time he blew it out...he said I cant do that!...it will void my warranty.:rolleyes:
     
  8. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,903   +714

    Judging by the fatalities-including I believe a police officer- what kind of driver education do they have in the U.S.? I've had stuck accelerators on occasion ( frayed cable, damaged cable sheathing) and all I've ever done is slap the transmission into neutral. It's not rocket science.
    Just as well you don't work for Rambus...you'd die of exhaustion!
    My guess would be that the black market for 196.75 will spring up so that "poor affected users" can trash their cards to get upgraded RMA replacements. Expect a rash of irate posters screaming that their dearly beloved 7600GS was K.I.A. and their vendor wont upgrade them to a GTX470.
    Wont be long before Steve Jobs and Ballmer adapt the strategy I'm sure !
     
  9. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    basically you send in two boxtops from favorite sugared cereal ,like sugar frosted crunchy ****'ers, and they will send you one....at least that's how it appears from many on the road....oh and calling road rage a "disease".
     
  10. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,815   +921

    God, I have 2 desktops here on a 2 X 4' piece of particle board up on sawhorses, and I always seem to pick the wrong keyboard and mouse. That said, back to topic.

    >>> Holy crap, you need a license to drive? Wait til I tell the Liberians around here. They think you just steal a car, drive it around for a while, then ship it to Africa.

    You watch it mister, road rage is a disease. So is being allergic to people with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. :rolleyes:....so there!

    Not to mention the habitual abuse of Viagara and Extends.
     
  11. zaidpirwani

    zaidpirwani TS Rookie Posts: 74

    Nvidia loosing ground..... :p
     
     
  12. gobbybobby

    gobbybobby TS Maniac Posts: 546

    I just updated to the January Drivers, with windows update. (gts 250) will download these drivers and see if I have any issues playing Just Cauce 2.
     
  13. gobbybobby

    gobbybobby TS Maniac Posts: 546

    Edit: WIndowes update says my Drivers are up to date. Either they have pulled it, or its not on windows update yet. yer says on Nvidia website 196.21 (which I have) is latest for my card. Do these drivers effect all cards?
     
  14. mrtraver

    mrtraver TS Enthusiast Posts: 237   +11

    Maybe it was WiFi allergies affecting the GPUs rather than a driver bug.
     
  15. Chazz

    Chazz TS Enthusiast Posts: 634   +60

    They pulled the drivers off the site.

    And @ the commentary up above. Your school boy,I'm the coolest kid on the block, behavior definitely detracts people from posting on this site. Most only post during contests because they don't want to deal with your inability to state your opinion without ridiculing others.

    Those comments aren't necessary, let Nvidia deal with their customers and distinguish what's legitimate and what's not.

    and@ dividebyzero(specifically), For the past few weeks you've been quite vocal about your disgust for AMD's recent drivers and the performance of the 5000 series because of it. Now when the problem is bricking of cards and,in my case, some hours of PC maintenance instead of a grey screen of death then it's overblown and exaggerated? That doesn't seem one sided at all.
     
  16. Spleenharvester

    Spleenharvester TS Enthusiast Posts: 146

    I'm glad I fitted a 3-pin Vortexx to mine now.

    Are they offering compensation for burnt up cards?
     
  17. Geek4life

    Geek4life TS Rookie Posts: 31

    Glad I did not jump on board as I am usually good for that. Always thinking I am going to increase performance of my aging card. I think I will be a bit more patient from now on.
     
  18. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,815   +921

    Ouch, Chazz, that's really harsh. I'm looking at your 38 post count and wondering if you aren't trying to make 50 for the contest also..

    And before you ask, I haven't entered, I already have a laptop which I don't use.

    In circumstances like this, it's sometimes hard to determine who's more a fault, the manufacturer or the end user. As I posted earlier, perhaps Toyotas do suffer from runaway acceleration, but certainly not in the percentages that people are claiming, which IMO, is just fishing for a cause of action for a get rich quick lawsuit.

    The consumer (read "gamer") never seems satisfied with the performance of their video card. If it did perform up to their expectations, then they would have to blame their gaming losses on themselves. >>(Like that's really going to happen) <<

    So while Nvidia may have punched up the drivers excessively, there's probably plenty of blame left for the end user to shoulder. Everybody's card didn't blow up, perhaps it was the ones that were already overclocked, under ventilated, or on their way out.

    So, you're not going to like this, but it will give you a fertile field for rebuttal, and of course, your 39th post.

    IMO, many of the people that are portraying themselves as "parties injured" by this driver update, are probably a bunch of delinquents, pumped up on adrenaline, who do nothing but sit at their computers for hours playing video games and expecting their parents to buy their computers and pay their electric bills.
     
  19. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    Black leather jackets and Geritol

    well if it helps Cap....I think your the coolest seasoned citizen on the block, :p:p:wave:
     
  20. Chazz

    Chazz TS Enthusiast Posts: 634   +60

    The reason Nvidia has pulled these drivers are because of the massive response from it's users. Of course people will try to take advantage, but to put a blanket statement on people who've had issues with them is completely unfair. Not everyone that has complained about the drivers has said anything about their card going bad. A lot reported higher than normal temps and rolled back their drivers.

    I understand what you mean by toyota..but people fearing for their lives(however justified) is a lil different from someones video card crapping out.

    As for your post count comment, the fact that you even checked makes me shake my head and seriously consider even giving you this response. It's a example of the condescending nature which made me post that in the first place.
     
  21. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,815   +921

    Thanks fer yur support...!

    Don't get me wrong, I'm still in touch with how much it stinks to be a teenager in these troubled times.

    To wit; "I'm out of Ritalin, my restless leg syndrome is acting up, the school expects me to leave my firearms at home, and turn in homework". "How's that for brass"?

    A more simplified explanation of teen torment goes like this; "life sucks, then Nvidia blows up your computer".
     
  22. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,903   +714

    Chazz....
    Chas...?
    Charlie...??

    Strange that I recommend AMD cards to posters on the forums then.
    (note to self: stop doing this)
    Disgust ? chASS, you seem to be embellishing the printed record...seems like someone got out on the wrong side of the cardboard box this morning.
    overblown and exaggerated...one sided....oh dear! embellishment AND a persecution complex by proxy...life must be crushing for a poor fanboy in this fast paced world.
     
  23. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,815   +921

    We're Here For You........24/7

    Well Chuck, I shall be eternally grateful for a second opportunity to make sport of the material at hand.

    First as to runaway Toyotas, as DBZ so thoughtfully evoked earlier, all you have to do, is throw the transmission in neutral and voila, problem solved. Sadly most of the drivers on the roads are either unqualified, or have their head up their a**. By which I mean they're running their yap on a cell phone, texting, or having their head stuck in the console looking for another CD.

    I would beg to differ with you, I believe, that the video driver and Toyota recall are directly comparable issues of product liability concerns. Coupled with people's actions with respect to that liability.

    You opened the door to the post count issue, when you brought up the concept of people only posting because there's a contest. With a 50 post minimum, I say if you want to enter, you better git crackin'. I'm only looking out for ya.

    Higher than normal GPU temps, wow, that's practically the end of the world now isn't it. Poor babies.

    But remember, we strive to give aid and comfort, so when you feel the need for a steaming hot bowl of indignation, we're here for you, and we'll serve it to you with pride.
     
  24. The name is Charles btw. I'm impressed by your knowledge of nicknames.

    @cap'n.

    I understand what you meant by the toyota comparison. I also understand that there are tons of drivers that should not be on the road. But, my point was the backlash that toyota got for this is very different than the backlash Nvidia is getting(which is very minimal) for video card failure.

    And yes, I entered in this contest..as I did the last one and I believe the one before that. And as with this contest I won't hit that 50 post limit. I really enjoy these contests because it gets people to post. The conversations compliment the articles very well. I read techspot a lot and have for years, I'm just stating my observation. There is a troll-like attitude towards new posters and guests. And don't worry, after this I won't respond. I feel like I'm not helping at all.

    @undefined

    As a person who was very vocal about drivers before, I find it odd that you'd say this:

    I don't think I have to explain what it implies. And no, it does not imply that you feel the 5000 series cards are bad. You'd be misinforming people, they have the best cards on the market.

    I'll just take note that I'll read contradicting opinions on here from you(as well as the infinitely hilarious tendency to compare others to some form of adolescent).
     
  25. ToastOz

    ToastOz TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Not the best news for nvidia, probably a good thing that I went for an ATI GFX card this year as a change from my last 7 nvidia GFX cards.
     
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