Nvidia posts $141 million loss, blames weak market

GTX 480 AND NVIDIA ARE THE DEVIL. GTX 480! Well personally I'm looking forward to the ATI HD 6000 but It still makes me sad when a company loses that much money. I know the GF100 cards sucked(except for multi gpu sli is better) but the GTX 460 is quite a nice card.

Yeah, I don't really see any decent cards out at the moment from them except for the 460 which seems like a really good card. I hopw their next ones do better, either that or update these ones ASAP!

Well I wonder if dropping your 2 biggest resellers from your latest product launches would have any impact on sales.

They'll recover a bit with the GTX 460, but let's face it - ATI smoked them like a cheap cigar with the new DX11 cards. Has nothing to do with a "weak market." Take a look at ATI's sales numbers and that's where their weak market went.

Wierd that they cited "a weakening demand for consumer graphics chips" as one of the reasons, while both AMD and Intel have seen increased demand for their graphics solutions and the 5000 series has been selling like hot cakes. 11 million plus anyone ? Wierd.

I would have upgraded my GTX285 to a higher end Fermi card, but they are all too power hungry and hot and so I decided to sit this generation of NVIDIA cards out. In the meantime the ATI 5000 series tempted me, but in the end the widespread reports of wonky drivers, gray screens, etc. worried me enough to decide to skip them as well (even though I have had many fine ATI cards over the years). I am going to need a faster card soon (and likely a better CPU) as I've upgraded my display to 2560x1440 and some of the games I was playing fine at 1900x1200 are suffering because of it. Since the new ATI cards look to be coming out at about the time I'll need to make a move, here's hoping the quality control issues have been ironed out. If not, I don't know what I'll do.

bcronin - you may want to consider the nVidia GTX 460's. They are the DX11 card nVidia should have come out to begin with. Powerful, flexible and energy efficient. Google "GTX 460 reviews" and take a look at what's being said about them. In fact, I ordered two of them just this morning for an SLI rig. Here's what I ordered and you can see the user reviews here too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...7510&cm_re=msi_gtx_460-_-14-127-510-_-Product

Palit and Galaxy got dropped? Bet they're surprised

Standard corporate-speak...similar to:

"Larrabee silicon and software development are behind where we had hoped to be at this point in the project...As a result, our first Larrabee product will not be launched as a standalone discrete graphics product, but rather be used as a software development platform for internal and external use" (Intel's cancellation of Larrabee GPU that doesn't use the word cancellation)
or...
"We operate in an environment where many people feel that AMD needs to have the highest-performance CPU component in order to be successful, and I tell you, that perception is false." (Dirk Meyer explaining the delay in introducing quad core Opteron/Phenom CPU's...Dec 2007)

And since this is a finance story...
Not being a financial analyst, maybe someone could explain why nvidia's stock has increased on the back of the Q2 financial announcement. Strange that a company that has sold 16 million HD5xxx series discrete/integrated cards still lags behind it's graphics competitor in market cap

According to my iPhone Nvidia is up 4,79 % while AMD is down 1,22 %...

Your iphone is telling lies, but then again you should already know that.

NVidia and ATI both need each other because they push each other and we benefit. I find that the race between them seems more like see-saw where one goes up for a while and the other down and then they reverse positions again. Good healthy competition and WE come out the winners because of it!

How did you get a signal to check the web on an iphone?

Possibly because AMD makes cpus and gpus...and currently they are getting their asses handed to them on the cpu front. Not to mention their profit margins are extra slim right now, and investors/traders are in it for profit. You can't discount what ATI is doing for AMD right now, they are the reason AMD isn't losing tons of money each quarter. I'm also no financial analyst but I'm quite sure it's about money.. and AMD barely makes any.

@bcronin: If you're looking for a single card solution than the 5850 typically edges out the 460 for that resolution and it was my choice before the 460 came out. But, if you want to get multiple cards than the 460 SLI seems to be the way to go. I have a 30" monitor also and I'd highly recommend a multi-gpu setup. That resolution wrecks havoc on gpus.

The death grip problem has been rectified. Apple is now trialling a new unobtrusive Patented Apple Insulation Device

I have had the following system for 10 month now, and never had any serious problems with it. In fact, it was and remains the best system I ever built.

Video: HD5870
CPU: Core-i7, 860
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Memory: 8GB
Boot: Intel X25-M, 160GB, 32nm

Drivers update from ATI are frequent, and they sorted all minor issues within a few first months. I run plenty of games on it, and they all worked superbly: Quake 3 and 4, Unreal I, II, 2003, 2004 and 2007, Warcraft I, II and III, StarCraft I and II, Need For Speed (5 versions). None of them has any problems, except Starcraft I, which is just probably OS problem more than they video card.

If I were to put together a new PC, then the only alternative to HD5870 would be HD5970, but that's as far as it goes.

My only problem is until crossfire starts scaling better I'll buy nvidia in case I ever want to run multiple cards. Even the HD 6000 isn't tempting me anymore because if I want to use multi gpu I will most likely get smoked by the similar priced nvidia multi gpu setup.

That's a good enough reason, hopefully the combination of Northern Islands and over a years worth of driver development will be able to remedy Xfire scaling.

The main problems with that is...
NI is likely to be a year away at least, and that is predicated upon a lot of IF's, including an on-schedule 28nm process with acceptable yield, and good design execution.
Secondly...
The timescale for NI (and it's inevitable nvidia counterpart) exceeds one generation of GPU's, and has little to do with what ails CFX scaling now, which is...
Catalyst 10.7 offers worse scaling than 10.6, which in turn seems to offer worse scaling than 10.5. I would certainly hope that Terry Makedon and Co. (if there is a Co.) get their s*** together prior to Q3 2011.