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Playing GTA IV

By Punkid
Sep 13, 2009
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  1. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    hmmm ok...hey tell me one thing, if i didnt have a graphics card, would i be able to play HD Movies with the onboard graphics? i mean is it that hard to play HD movies?
     
  2. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    depends on the decoder on the onboard gfx but to a point yes but the 9500 gt is not made to play games.
     
  3. jassinlive

    jassinlive TS Rookie

    1440x900 is the smallest u can run at 16:10 (1280x768 is stil classified as 16:9)
     
  4. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    yes i know i have tried
     
  5. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    haha check this out

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 23.21
    Duration: 37.18 sec
    CPU Usage: 97%
    System memory usage: 85%
    Video memory usage: 98%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 800 x 600 (56 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Texture Filter Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 25
    Detail Distance: 100

    Hardware
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
    Video Driver version: 190.38
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli




    resolution seems to be the only thing that makes a difference with my FPS...all other settings to max with lower res gives me these FPS lol
     
  6. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    get a new video card and all will be well :)
     
  7. axesever

    axesever TS Rookie

    My old video card used to do this
     
  8. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    which one do u have now axesever?
     
  9. axesever

    axesever TS Rookie

    Geforce gts 250
     
  10. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    hmm and what are your system specs?
     
  11. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    well, technically, 9600M GT is about the same as 9500GT.
    my laptop is running a 9600M GT with 512MB DDR3. all stock, no overclock.

    Unofficial driver
    Statistics
    Average FPS: 18.40
    Duration: 37.11 sec
    CPU Usage: 75%
    System memory usage: 77%
    Video memory usage: 22%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: Medium
    Reflection Resolution: Medium
    Water Quality: Medium
    Shadow Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 25
    Detail Distance: 25
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT [Dox Optimised 185.20]
    Video Driver version: 185.20
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 25.32
    Duration: 37.08 sec
    CPU Usage: 92%
    System memory usage: 73%
    Video memory usage: 22%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: Medium
    Reflection Resolution: Medium
    Water Quality: Medium
    Shadow Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 25
    Detail Distance: 25
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Official Driver
    Statistics
    Average FPS: 18.05
    Duration: 38.07 sec
    CPU Usage: 71%
    System memory usage: 66%
    Video memory usage: 24%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: High
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
    Video Driver version: 179.28
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 17.03
    Duration: 37.99 sec
    CPU Usage: 75%
    System memory usage: 78%
    Video memory usage: 46%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: High
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: High
    View Distance: 100
    Detail Distance: 100
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    so you see, that was my last month' run. after i modded my GTA IV seems unable to benchmark again. what im trying to say is, sometimes under similar conditions, the results are not the same. p.s. i don't know why all it says vsync on and definition off, but each time im playing, vsync off and definition on.
     
     
  12. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    hmm do u have the latest patch installed?
     
  13. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    nope that was taken last month under 2nd patch. as i said i just modded my gta and it doesnt allow me to benchmark.
     
  14. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    y? what error does it show?
     
  15. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    it just closes when the benchmark begins. never mind. from the benchmark file above, i can assure you, i am also getting uneven FPS in GTA IV with similar system spec.
     
  16. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    hmm but the game is not playable for me at the resolution i want to play it at :(
     
  17. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    what fps are you getting? have u tried commandline?

    u can google for "commandline gta iv", sometimes it helps adding more fps.
     
  18. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    commandline is useless cuz the settings that it offers are already present in the in-game graphics settings... i get around 20 fps at 14400x900 with settings at medium\low and thats pretty unplayable
     
  19. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    the only thing that sometimes helps from commandline is percentvidmem 100 that's all.
    not sure though, but on 1440x900, all low u should reach 30fps, unless ur card is ddr2.
     
  20. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    it is ddr3 but with everything set to lowest , i get 22-24fps ...but i have draw distance at 20 and detail distance at 20 too....is that making a difference? anyway i cant play with these 2 lower than 20 cuz then as u are driving a car objects suddenly pop up :|
     
  21. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    yes view distance and detail distance is hogging alot of GPU. i know how if u set it to low, i experience that as well, that's why i suggest u to use the percentvidmem 100 in commandline, because somehow that makes the rendering of images faster, for my laptop and another laptop.
     
  22. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    ok heres the thing, i ve tried pushing the water quality,shadow quality and reflection resolution to max but it doesnt make any difference on the performance :D ...its only only the resolution :(

    by the way i think my cpu is also slowing me down....is there any way to check GPU (not CPU) usage?....ive tried nvidia system monitor but it doesnt tell it right
     
  23. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Guru Posts: 1,003   +11

    it doesnt make a difference because the graphic already on its limit. im pretty sure the CPU is slowing you down, as u see above, if u notice the higher my CPU % the higher my FPS is. for me i cant overclock since basically im using laptop and i have no intention in doing that as well.

    just turn off some unused programs, disable antivirus temporarily and do disk-cleanup as well as disk defragmenter. sometimes it helps. if it's then u know it's your CPU limit.

    add, another commandline for you to try-out.

    If you are experiencing frame speed fluctuations, please update to the latest video drivers, then use the -memrestrict commandline. Please do not use any other commandlines as they may override the effects of this one. Start at the lowest number based on your texture setting (ie. try them one at a time) You can try to increase the number until you notice stuttering again.

    -memrestrict 188743680 LOW TEXTURES (256M Video Cards)
    -memrestrict 209715200
    -memrestrict 230686720
    -memrestrict 262144000 MED TEXTURES (512M Video Cards)
    -memrestrict 293601280
    -memrestrict 314572800
    -memrestrict 629145600 HIGH TEXTURES (1Gig+ Video Cards)
    -memrestrict 650117120
    -memrestrict 681574400

    If you still notice stuttering with the lowest number, there may be a seperate issue with your system configuration.

    i suggest you to use this commandline= -fullspecaudio -memrestrict 293601280 -percentvidmem 100
    or -minspecaudio, some computers works better with fullspecaudio, weird.
     
  24. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 22.34
    Duration: 37.16 sec
    CPU Usage: 99%
    System memory usage: 91%
    Video memory usage: 98%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Low
    Texture Filter Quality: High
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20

    Hardware
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
    Video Driver version: 190.38
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz

    ok here u see my cpu usage is 99% and all the settings were set to max except Texture Quality(LOW) and Texture Filter quality(HIGH)...all others were at their MAX .....i get the same FPS with lower settings at same FPS....what can i do to lower the CPU usage?
     
  25. Punkid

    Punkid TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 545

    ok now heres the thing, i set EACH AND EVERY SETTING TO THE LOWEST POSSIBLE VALUE, EVEN RESOLUTION!!! but my cpu usage doesnt go down at all


    Statistics
    Average FPS: 28.23
    Duration: 37.19 sec
    CPU Usage: 98%
    System memory usage: 84%
    Video memory usage: 64%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 800 x 600 (56 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Low
    Texture Filter Quality: Low
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20

    Hardware
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
    Video Driver version: 190.38
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli
     
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