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PlayStation 3 hacking lawsuit delayed already

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  1. I'm siding with GeoHotz, he states clearly that he does not support piracy. All he has done is enabled the use of unsigned codes on a ps3. It's not like this will cost Sony money, I mean seriously how can it? The only thing it can do is increase the sales of the ps3.
  2. Lurker101 TechSpot Booster Posts: 542   +63

    I'm really hoping GeoHot does well here. I for one, wouldn't mind being able to install Linux on my PS3 again or even a few emulators, so I can do a bit of retro gaming or even play a few Japanese PC games, made for a controller on my PS3.
    He's already stately quite clearly that made every effort to ensure that his hack does not open up the PS3 for piracy, so I don't understand why so many people are getting hot about it and using piracy as an excuse to berate him.
  3. How naive do you have to be to take George Hotz's claim at face value? I hope he's got enough brain (outside of computer stuff) to put on more public statement without a lawyer's help. The usual out come after these type of lawsuit is that he and his family is going to go through legal hell for the duration of the lawsuit. Most likely several years. He's still going to loose a lot in real life weather he win or loose this lawsuit.
  4. This man is a legend.
  5. I think what Sony is doing is absolutely ridiculous. I bought a product, and now I can't do what I want with it?

    What's next? Is Microsft going to jump on-board, and say I can't make my own programs?
    Is Apple going to say I can't download anything that isn't from Apple on a Mac?
    Is Linux going to be illegal entirely?

    Will it be illegal to put a different kind of tire on my car then what came with it?
    How far is this going to go, people? I mean honestly.
  6. "The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) created a powerful supercomputer out of Sony PS3s by connecting 1,760 Sony PS3s together, which include 168 separate graphical processing units and 84 coordinating servers in an parallel array capable of performing 500 trillion floating-point operations per second (500 TFLOPS).[291]"
    -Wikipedia

    You guys remember this, right? The giant supercomputer, made up of PS3s?
    With what Sony is saying, why aren't they going after the Air Force for this? They are obviously breaking the ToS. Does this mean...they are breaking the law?
     
  7. Sony are after nothing more than your hard earned cash. This hack brings back some of the original functionality we all paid for but then Sony stole back from us. Its like we all purchased a new car and then the manufacturer removed the engine during a service snd they sued the mecanic who gave you instructions on where to find and howto fit a new one
  8. "The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) created a powerful supercomputer out of Sony PS3s by connecting 1,760 Sony PS3s together, which include 168 separate graphical processing units and 84 coordinating servers in an parallel array capable of performing 500 trillion floating-point operations per second (500 TFLOPS).[291]"
    -Wikipedia

    Considering Sony loses 100$ on every PS3 sold (hoping to make it up in games sales), the military added 176,000$ to Sony's debt. Ouch.
  9. matrix86 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 761

    I don't understand why people are getting so upset over this guy:
    1. He clearly stated this wasn't for piracy
    2. Even if it was, how exactly does this affect your life?
    3. How exactly is this hack going to affect your life? Just don't download it.
  10. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    Actually, it seems that it has allowed people to hack online in several games. The problem here is that this was the only measure they had for deterring cheaters and now that the cat is out of the bag, they can't do anything about it.
  11. mccartercar Newcomer, in training Posts: 74

    Sony are caught with their pants down as once the front door was kicked in on the ps3 security there were only poodles for guard dogs, catatonic vegetables for security guards, and a whoopee cushion attached to a horn for an alarm. You know...Sony was betting it all on that big front door. Now they are scrambling to deal with problems the xbox360 and pc have been dealing with for years. Cheaters.

    Aside from these types of fart knockers ruining people's experience, things are rocketing skyward. As keys have been attained we can now come and go as we please, signing any package we want to run on the ps3 on ofw with psn.
    Thanks for the awesome, now open, piece of hardware Sony. Same goes for the Psp.
  12. I agree if it's his fault that online gaming has gone shitty than Sony should win. However even if it isn't his fault he deserves to be penalized in some way for doing this.
  13. Sounds like the guy's ego has him bite off more than you can chew. Even people who don't play computer games are hearing about the lawsuit.
  14. Darth Shiv TechSpot Maniac Posts: 689   +50

    I think what is criminal is having pathetic security that compromises the user base? Would you go to a bank that had non-existent security if the protection was "it's illegal to bypass our security"? If yes, then I might just have a great idea for a new bank :)
  15. Sarcasm TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 309   +12

    I will answer #3 for the millions of legitimate PS3 owners.

    The hack allows almost anything to be done on the PS3. That means cheating with trophies, hacking in online games (which appears to already be rampant with Modern Warfare 2), and potentially hack peoples PSN accounts for information. Who knows how far it can go, that's how open this hack is.

    So yes it affects anyone who owns a PS3 and the increase threat in security just makes it that much easier for criminals to get away with it.
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  17. Richy2k9 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 513

    hello ...

    i see a lot of good & bad analogies, examples & arguments both sides, i agree partly with both, yet i also admit being a total 'anti-piracy fanboy' so will always be biased when commenting on such articles, but those who know me, may remember the few words i used to add to my 'essay-type' posts ... well it's not yet at it, but it has begun:

    check techspot's week-end tech reading about what the Japanese did here (weekend-tech-reading-internet-2010)

    now to respond to the article & your comments:

    - 1st SONY is like a wounded animal trying to defend itself & may not use the proper way ...

    - GeoHot is & remains a 'stupid intelligent' guy to the eyes of a lot, he shouldn't have released the key if he wanted SONY to bring back a feature he is responsible for removal in the 1st place & the slim was never sold/advertised with otherOS feature way before anyone heard about GeoHot & yet the sales was high, so anyone buying a slim knew that there we no PS2 BC & Linux, now if you want it back or at least state so, you are being hypocrite!

    - Air-force isn't wrongly using the PS3 for : SONY never forced anyone using the console without the need for PSN to update, so the 2K PS3 sold to them can & will remain Linux compatible for not used for gaming & using Linux without trying to hack the console is allowed on the PS3, contrary to what GeoHot did!

    - stethoscope is a really good example of a good thing corrupted by evil mind of man, so yes there will always be thieves & cops to arrest them & honest people being victim to such in a way & have their lives saved on the other, we are just human & some are really rotten like all fruits in this wonderful garden, but it doesn't make it acceptable, i'm sure you don't want people to use the stethoscope to check out your safe but your heart's condition, well maybe you would need someone to check your heart's condition after someone checked your safe :p

    - it's not something we can say there's a PRO & CON side, to everything about abusing / corrupting, it only benefits those who are behind the bad deeds & anyone going that road must accept the consequences ...

    I'm wondering if someone found a way to hack steam & allow illegal games / cheats on it or steal your accounts, it makes me shiver for i have so many games i love on it, i also have so many games & love the PSN service, just look what's good for you & everyone then say that GeoHot is right, then wait for your turn to be a victim, for you may deserve it....

    cheers!
  18. Thank you hackers for braking the PS3 so that 1% of owners can get the useless linux and the rest 99% get a broken online play. Thanks alot. You all deserve to go behind bars.
  19. Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,913   +89

    haha! I like alot of the hate posts above about siding with Sony. The fact that the PC and Xbox have rarely any cheaters what so ever (I've play almost 1000 hours on TF2 on PC and a good 400 hours on Halo Reach) and after playing all that time on both platforms guess how many cheaters i've come accross? None.

    Not to mention all of the other games i've played loads on, L4D2, WoW, UT3, UT2004, Halo 2, GoW2 Rainbow Six vegas and CoD:MW, yet i'm still yet to come accross these so called "cheaters"??

    Now excuse me if I'm in the wrong here, but if Sony really was betting on a single Key to stop all hacking on there console they really are stupid, the fact that the Xbox and PC in my experience have had no cheating on what so ever I think Sony needs to wake up, create a software update that installs an entirely new dashboard that works similarly to the Xbox when it comes to game piracy (or maybe steams anti-cheat similar system?). Sony need get off there High Horse sueing people for at the end of the day, someone who has actually done us a favor in exploiting how bad the security on the Playstation really is.
  20. Because Airforce isn't going to cost them billions. Corporations exists to make money, even when you think they are being charitable. The longer they delay this the less of an impact this patch will do (suposedly). It is not personal. It's all about how much money the stand to loose or prevent from loosing. Sony can go bankrupt for all I care...another corporation will stand up and take it's place.