Sales People

that's what i thought! i should have taken a picture or something haha

at the time i just thought "what the... vista speakers???" i'll see if they still have some next time i go into the shop

vista compatible speakers indeed...

Some People Need Constant Reassuring........

I borrowed this little gem from Raybay, (who borrowed it from George Carlin):

Think of how stupid the average person is,
and realize half of them are stupider than that.

- - - - George Carlin

I think it illustrates the "Zen" principle of retail marketing wherein the customer, the salesman, and the marketing execs. are all one........big imbecile. Still I would sleep way "more better" knowing that my speakers were Vista compatible, save for the fact that now I don't know if they'll work with XP.

that's a pretty good quote

you make another good point too though, it should say "vista compatible, plus it'll still work with xp" on them shouldn't it?

Why It's Practically Fool Proof........

You have to almost sympathize with manufacturers. I said ALMOST. Just when they think that fool proof is sufficient, the next generation of sales people and customers come along to necessitate raising the design standard to ***** proof.

"Supreme Hand Lover", is that anything on the order of "endlessly self dating"?

You're on the right track, yes!

Lol, Self-dating.....with the five finger sisters! :evil:

the entire issue with usb cables not included "in the box" is not entirely the retailer's fault.. manufacturer's pack it they sell it. At least some sales people are decent enough to mention it, rather than the average joe going home, finding out its not there and swearing his head off at the world conspiring against him.

with the fool-proof concept on products, lemme put it this way. I work at a shop that sells tech stuff, stationary etc. and without fail every day at least 5+ customers come up to me asking where printer inks are. Now, in this store there is a gigantic sign (among multitudes of posters saying "looking for printer inks? Go to Inkworks") saying "Inkworks". 3 of those mentioned customers also ask whilst standing directly in front of them.

Look guys, treat going into these places as a source of entertainment. Most of us know more about PCs than a shopful of these boxshifting eejits so use your knowledge to babblespeak with them. Most of them will not understand what you are on about especially if you make up some piece of jargon - like P standard wireless networking for example.
Perhaps we could have a new thread just for the best bit of nonsense you got a salesman to believe and go and find out more about?

well just to clear something, Printer USB cables are never part of the kit , Yes the cable has to be purchased separatly ,
its cause the margin on printer is so less , Manufacturers dont make much profit of printers , its the ink that gets the revenue

"Look guys, treat going into these places as a source of entertainment... Most of them will not understand what you are on about especially if you make up some piece of jargon"

that's the best part if you get someone who doesn't know that much about pc's then you can make things up and as long as you sound convincing and know what you're on about then they'll pretend they understand

you could go on about ram flux or micro usb jolt failure or something (i'm making these up as i go along) and you just have to have a serious look on your face and they'll play along

ahhh, isn't being a nerd so much fun haha


on the printer note, in the uk cableuniverse.com is a good place for cables of all sorts, from hdmi to parallel if you're feeling old school

An interesting element in all this turns out to be that there are equally incompetent sales erks on the other side of the Atlantic and they attract the same sort of opinion.
A long time ago, before most of you were born, I was once summoned as an expert (an ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure) witness in a court case against PCWorld, UKs greatest box shifter. Their technical manager stated that there was no such thing as a copy of Windows 98 upgrade (from Windows 95). I said there was and produced one out of my case. The PCWorld bloke then started shouting at the judge, saying it was a fabrication and a made up job. Needless to say they lost the case. Tee Hee. Joy Unbound. Dance amongst the flowers, etc etc.

haha i wish i was there to see that

i was around when win 95 was, our first pc had it and a 610mb hard drive and 90mhz processor

AlbertLionheart is my new idol! :grinthumb

k.jacko - you are too kind!
Talking of old things - anyone any idea what this is/was? The little drive beside it is a 40Gb 2.5" - I have had the big one just for fun for years but have no idea about its capacity or what it was for.

WOAH that's huge!

i'll look on wikipedia

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as far as i can see it's a hard drive just really old does it have anything that looks like an ide connector or anything like that?

not a winchester drive is it?

I think winchester drive was a generic term for a hard drive in the days when most PCs didn't have one at all. I just tried to weigh this and it is over 7 lbs wt. Did not do the kitchen scales much good....

google says that a winchester drive is "Originally meant to signify that the drive used Winchester technology, but many times it is used to mean it is a fixed disk drive, implementing either Winchester or Whitney technology and non-removable disks sealed in a contaminant-free housing." so basically a hard drive by the looks of it

on the topic of large storage media, who remembers these?

The thing does not have an IDE connector - it is more like the spade connector they used to use on the 5.25" floppy disk drives. I had another look at it and there are no manufacturer's marks at all.

i know i'm kind of bringing an old(ish) thread back but i remembered a time that i had a GOOD experience in a pc shop :grinthumb

i was on holiday and wanted to get a pcmcia usb adapter for my laptop. i found a small pc shop but didn't want to go in shouting out random computer acronyms so asked for a laptop usb adapter. the guy said "do you mean a pcmcia usb card" or something of the sort and i was a bit surprised that he decided to go saying computer acronyms at me i felt my geeking was appreciated in said shop haha

it was only a small shop which is probably why the guy knew what he was on about, if it was comet or pc world i expect they'd get confused and try to sell me a cd rom drive or something