Sony unveils the PlayStation 4, coming this holiday season

and best part comes after getting three cards of Titan you will still end up in 6GB of VRAM.

No we don't. Consoles are fine for kids but real men use the proper tool. A PC.

I agree, I only PC game. But don't you think PC games are being held back, because of games being produced primarily for consoles, and not utilizing the more powerful PC's?

Of course they are but you have to realize buying a console costs far less than a gaming PC hence their popularity. Publishers are only interested in making money so they publish more games for consoles and put PC games on the back burner. When they're asked about this they always cite: 1. PC game piracy is too rampant. 2. There are far to many PC configurations to be able to cater for all of them.
While I tend to agree somewhat with their 2nd statement, the 1st one has gotten old very quickly.

As for my personal experience, I have 2 as doorstops, 1 still working.
What happens when it fails (which it will), and I can't buy PS3's new anymore?
Games become coasters?
Guess I'll just need a PC powerful enough to emulate it!
IMO both M$ and Sony made machines prone to failure this last time. I can only hope the next gen are a little more resilient. In contrast, my phat PS2 still works after 13 years. So does my Gamecube for that matter, but Nintendo has always made tough machines.

lol, the RAM size does not affect the speed of graphic card.

I wasn't arguing with that fact at all, I totally agree, and only an ignorant douche (to keep language clean) would want them to develop for the minority.
My comment was just trying to say that whether you play console games or PC games, it will affect you either way - which you seemed to not understand.

In reference to the 30k polygon count, they did not say that was the potential for the ps4; that was just the potential for 1 character in 1 GAME that is coming out THIS year, so the potential count is much higher.

(Not that polygon counts are the most important aspect of gaming anyway.)

Okay and I still have my original xbox 360 from 8 years ago and it is working beautifully; in contrast I went through 3 ps2 in that consoles lifetime... you can throw out subjective allegories all you want but hardware failure happens... TO EVERY CONSOLE.

And honestly quit whining about having to buy new games, Sony never said that the ps4 was going to be backwards compatible, so the blame for investing in the current generation is yours alone. You obviously can still play them now and you have been able to, so it's not as if you bought them and never got to use them.

Ahh so many good things about this. Basically, Sony, Take my money. Really.

I love that all next gen systems use AMD(most likely). This is so much good news for the whole computer industry.

People will whine about console ports and what not, but the games are being designed around a PC basically, so while the ports may be just ports, I think we will see a whole bunch of devs porting to the PC with upgraded graphics, because the system is based on x86!

I love that the system uses 8 cores, I bet we will see so many more games coded for all 8 cores which could mean we will see AMD doing better vs Intel processors. Which will also mean games should play better for all gamers.

Last gen I was Xbox, this gen Sony. I think I'm going to enjoy my stay.

That depends on the resolution. Lower resolution and you're correct. Higher and you need more memory. You notice this with the benchmarks with 680 @2gigs onboard vs 7970 @3gigs, the 7970 does better at higher the resolution vs the 680.

No Kinect, no sale

I thought people cared more about gameplay than graphics... At least that what it seems like when people complain about games like COD

I must be living under a rock lol

It may be old, but it's not as if it isn't true. You don't see console games setting piracy records in illegal downloads >_>

People don't notice it, but better graphics can improve the immersion for the player. But if the game sucks, then - well, that's an example of painting a turd to look like a cake.
It wont taste any better, but more people will buy it.

The main thing is scale. You may be able to get better graphics on screen at one time, but what is better is the chance to have more graphics on screen at once. More players, bigger worlds, massive wars, and more...

But people talk about consoles games like they are just so bad lol. I'm all for graphics, but even for the graphic heavy games like BF3 and split/second, I don't think I'd enjoy it any less on console just because it doesn't have super ultra high settings that a pc takes advantage of. I just don't think the average family sees a decent gaming rig as a worthwhile investment when there are consoles out there that at least 2 of them and enjoy games at one time.

Absolutely, but that isn't to say console games don't get pirated, they do, but on a smaller scale. There are thousands of unsavory characters willing to 'chip' consoles and how many consoles do get 'chipped'?
It's a great pity that legitimate owners and players are treated like criminals while the pirates walk away wearing smiles like cheshire cats.

Yeah, it can get pretty bad. Black Ops 2 was pirated pretty heavily and Treyarch and sony are very serious on the matter and aren't hesitating to ban people. I know there was quite a few soft modded consoles, especially when geohot was active before being taken down by sony

There's absolutely nothing wrong with consoles or console gaming. I'm just sick & tired of having the pc take a back seat when it comes to games.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just ignorant.
I'm leaning towards trolling based on your "Guest" status. I'll humor you anyway.
Current consoles are lemons compared to their older counterparts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sclient...pw.r_qf.&fp=40da3377a7b91932&biw=1368&bih=783
No subjective allegories here eh?
I've personally never heard of a Super Nintendo failing on its own.

I don't recall mentioning anything about purchasing new games.
"Guess I'll just need a PC powerful enough to emulate it!" is what I posted. Relating to playing my purchased games in the future.
Since it looks like you missed my point,
My issue is with the crappy hardware, not the lack of backward compatibility.