The Best Graphics Cards: Full AMD and Nvidia GPU Comparison with Latest Drivers

By Julio Franco
Nov 26, 2012
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  1. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    A lot has changed since November though... drivers have really matured and games have been optimized.
  2. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    First of all, Nice article, I have some doubts , HD 7970 GHZ is fast, but some comparison videos I watched shows smoother gameplay experience, no shuttering or lag in GTX 680 as well as GTX 680 provides better color saturation, if I look at water or human faces its better in GTX 680 than in 7970. Also whether you have enabled PHYSX, or any other Nvidia specific things? because that will reduce the fps too. Because the difference seems unbelievable. Generally GTX 680 provides much more crisp and clear images than 7970?why?
  3. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,119   +51

    NECRO ALERT!
  4. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    I have expected a reply based on facts.
  5. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,119   +51

    You probably could've a couple months ago, this is an "old" topic so it won't show on trend and unless someone is following this you won't get a reply
  6. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,135   +276 Staff Member

    That and half of what he said simply isn't true so I am guessing no one really wanted to deal with it ;)
  7. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    Hello Steve & Kibaruk,

    Thanks to both of you for replying. I want to buy a GPU, that is the reason I came here. Please see the below video 7970 & GTX 680 side by side comparision, I have watched some videos before asking it here,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV9wu_-p1yQ

    Thanks.
  8. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,135   +276 Staff Member

    Too much is unknown about the video such as what driver version was used. Furthermore the GTX 680 is NOT faster than the 7970 in BF3 and we test the same section of the game that this video is based on.
  9. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    Steve, are we gonna see an update on this when AMD releases the stable version of their new driver (13.4 maybe?). Or will you wait for new games?
  10. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,135   +276 Staff Member

    Not sure there is any need to update the article. How much is the 13.4 driver going to change this article? We are testing the 7990 this week and that review is based on the 13.3 and 13.5 beta drivers, results are much the same for cards like the 7970 as they are in this article.

    AMD is working on a "Frame Pacing Prototype" driver right now which we have the second version of so once that driver is complete we will likely do an article that looks at fps and frame time performance.
  11. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    Well, isnt the latest driver 13.3 beta? It hasnt been updated since March 20, 2013. As for 13.5, is that a typo or did you all get it early? Isnt that Frame Pacing Prototype the latency improvements in 13.3 beta?
  12. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,135   +276 Staff Member

    Well, isnt the latest driver 13.3 beta?

    Latest available to the public YES.

    It hasnt been updated since March 20, 2013.

    For the public.

    As for 13.5, is that a typo or did you all get it early?

    That's the 7990 driver.

    Isnt that Frame Pacing Prototype the latency improvements in 13.3 beta?

    No.
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  13. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    When are you allowed to benchmark the 7990 this week? Is there an NDA placed on it?
     
  14. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,135   +276 Staff Member

    Yeah there is an NDA in place and it is lifted on the 24th so keep your eye out for that one, we have done lots of testing for you ;)
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  15. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    I wanna see AMD kick some butt.
  16. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    I had the same doubt. This video was uploaded on February 8th, 2013, might have used the latest driver. Since you have tested the same section of the game, there are no more doubts.
  17. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    A lot of stuff happening tomorrow. Nokia's QWERTY phone announcement and the 7990. #GoAMD!
  18. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    JC713 Have you seen the review. AMD should have solved the frame latency issue before releasing the 7990. But value for money is exceptional.
  19. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    Yeah, I have seen 2. One from TS and another from Toms Hardware. I am yet to see AnandTech's. Latency has been an issue for AMD every since they have launched the 7000 series. The 13.3 beta driver has been in beta stage since January. It is said to resolve those frame latency issues.
  20. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,699   +586

    PCPerspective used Catalyst 13.5 (beta 2 I think), which still shows marked propensity towards CFX stutter. PCPer also tested the prototype 2 driver which does seem to alleviate the issues of frame latency- the down side is that the driver wont be available until June-July. Review sites were cautioned against using the P2 driver in HD 7990 reviews based on immaturity and drops in performance (frame rate).
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  21. alex1234

    alex1234 Newcomer, in training

    Yeah the new driver shows good promise, but its 3 months away. Still I will reduce 350$ for their gaming bundle and only see it as a 650$ card, so AMD 7990 is more than worth the money.
  22. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    AMD released the card at the right time I think. If nVidia releases the 790 in the rumored May-June timeframe, it may be tough for AMD, but this driver will help to combat nVidia. If the rumor about the 780 using Tesla K20x cores is true, then we could speculate the 790 will be that x2. AMD will really need to ramp up their game from that point on.
  23. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,699   +586

    Maybe, but unlikely IMO. AMD will at least get over the hump of inconsistencies in Crossfire (profiling notwithstanding), but the elimination of partially rendered frames will count against AMD cards in benchmarking where average framerate is the overriding factor since those average framerates will drop. The alternative is that AMD petition review sites to use separate drivers for single and multi-GPU
    You mean the hullabaloo the 3DCenter article caused, and the subsequent guesswork at BSN and Fudzilla based on 3DC's musings?
    3DC tend to churn out these extrapolations every few months (they assumed the GTX Titan would follow Nvidia's naming convention- I.e. GTX 780 late last year for instance). The timing of BSN and Fudzilla's articles on the eve of the HD 7990 launch I don't think is coincidental.
    As far as I am aware, the only part being added to the product stack is a "Titan LE" SKU ( an analogue of the Tesla K20/K20C with one memory controller and a further SMX fused off), with GK104/106 parts moving down one tier from their present positions to accommodate the LE part (GTX 780?). K20X is essentially the GTX Titan -same core count and memory interface, but binned for low voltage operation.
    I would think it extremely unlikely that Nvidia would put up a dual-GK110 card. 2 x 561mm^2 GPUs would make it unviable on cost. Binning for compatible GPUs would also overlap the same requirement used for Tesla K20X and Quadro K6000 whose selling prices per GPU are 3-4 times that of GeForce branding. A dual GK104 (or GK114) based on higher clocks - or more likely, the same base clock and a much higher boost would seem eminently doable given the power usage headroom advantage GK104 has over Tahiti.
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  24. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,097   +724

    Hmm. Interesting. I read about the 700 series rumor on WCCFtech. They sometimes get stuff wrong also. The cost part of the 790 I didnt think of. You are right. But then that whole rumor should be dumped in the trash... a cut down K20x core cant get the price down to $500 (780). As for the K6000, isnt the high price due to 6GB of ECC GDDR5 and the "quality" drivers?
  25. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,699   +586

    For Nvidia pro cards, the price premium is (in descending order):
    1. 24/7 365 day support (phone/on-site/guaranteed like-for-like warranty replacement for three years)
    2. Drivers and software ( e.g. CompleX, SceniX, OptiX, 3D Vision Pro )
    3. More stringent binning/ run-time validation of GPU and memory IC's

    Memory IC's aren't overly expensive in the context of a $3-5K pro board. Here's a round-up cards and their associated BoM (Bill of Materials). Bear in mind that 6Gb/sec GDDR5 was fairly new (read: expensive) a couple of years ago, as was the current 7Gb/sec modules when the were first introduced last year.
    [​IMG]
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