Thoughts on new build? :)

Clock the $10 more expensive Core i5-2300 at 4.4GHz with DDR3 1600 or 1866 and you will have a system that spanks the Phenom X6 silly. And why does it matter if the copper tarnishes? It sits inside your computer case. And ofcourse it will because its being exposed to oxygen and heat. Nickel plating it is probaby a loss because nickel isnt as good of a conductor as copper. The 6870 might use 200watts of power under load, Im pretty sure its around there. It might be 180 or 150 I cant remember quite right, I'd say its 180w +/- 20w. Add in a Core i5 sucking 200watts of power and your up to 400w in just two components.

i disagree with this post my system with a i5 2500k clocked at 4.9Ghz and gtx 470 clocked over 800 mhz and 2 dvd burners 2 external drives 8 gb of ram 2 hard drives and 6 fans pulls a little over 500 watts refer to this

While very dramatic, it's also completely inaccurate. I have worked with both , and own the later. Guru3D does a nice battery of tests and in these, the 2500K and the 1100T split with 7 wins each, it even best's the i2600K on the video compression test. When you get into heavily threaded apps, the x6 will run at or above the 2600. I am not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that the i2300 will hand the x6 its ***.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7-2600k-review/1

This not true either. The X6 is a 125w part, (the x6 1035 is a 95w) and the temperatures are comparable. temperature is not a linear function of number of cores.

any two comparable CPU's will get very close frame rates as the CPU becomes less a factor unless you are gaming at very low resolutions. If you are looking towards Ivy bridge, go with the intel. they are going to use the 1155 socket as well.

Oh ya you bet; I dont know exactly how much power a motherboard pulls, I know hard drives are something like 20 or 30watts each, and look at how much power those videocards really pull! Unbelievable! But believable if you know how small and efficent cards were and how unefficient they've become compared to before. But they're also doing marvelous things today. Thats why I'm waiting out for the 7000 Series ATI cards. Even if I dont get the latest and greatest I'll get a slightly better card that'll run longer, less heat, less power, happier system.

So it looks like a 750w with today's mid-to-highend videocards is an appropriate bet.

Thanks for charming in Red and the teachings from you guys. I aim to learn.

Red: Heres my point as previously stored internally after looking 18 pages into the review you posted. The Core i5 2500k comes very close / just above the phenom x6 in many applications, but with its overhead in overclocking, using a $50 aftermarket cooler, it generally seems to smeer a Phenom x6 on the walls. Especially in practical applications that we use moreso often. That is ofcourse opinion and I have no facts or sources to currently back it up. (not enough time, quite, either)

Games are where I look most often. I dont even game, I havnt gamed in years, but application performance is hands down excellent on these chips and if Im not building a rig to crunch 3D renders I'll look at how the picked-out-parts perform in games, since that is the second or first most demanding application after all, for me atleast.

This is the only page I pulled up after clicking far enough into the artical, and sure enough as I remember the Core i5 2500k tucks the Phenom to sleep in games.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7-2600k-review/20

I know looking at one game isnt enough to justify a statement but I remember a pretty good idea about what I've read in detail in the past.

hmmm...wow...okay
1a) you were talking about a 2300 not a 2500K
1) not sure what a "$50" cooler has to do with anything, You can use the same cooler on a x6
2) a 2300 to 4.4?
3) okay I quit, it's hard to debate when you are placing your arguments on your 'feelings'

Boy you are big on cutesy euphemisms aren't you?

you are right about that. you pick a single benchmark of a game that is 5 years old that only uses 2 cores. Tell ya what, pick a conclusion that you want and I will find game benches that match it...then I will find the opposite.

Then why post it?

Fair enough Red, I'll retain my thoughts/suggestions.

I didn't say or suggest that agissi. I just have an opposing view and have had hands on this these items. Some of the reasons you gave were just not fact.

It doesn't look as cool! I don't think plating is going to reduce the effectiveness of the copper underneath by very much given similar thickness. It's probably not going to change much at all, just a little bit of emissivity difference.

did you even read my post or the link i provided agissi

Nice, thanks for all the replies So... Should I stick with the 1090T? And with my motherboard? The reason I chose this motherboard, is that it is really futureproof. Whenever u add another gfx card it'll run it at 8X and the first one still at 16X whilst other motherboards run both at 8X.
And about the SSD, I couldnt really understand everything Agissi, about the cache stuff. So about the pagefile/swapfile (tbh, dont really know what that exactly is) 60GB wont be big enough? Because I would only use the SSD for BF3 and mayb another game and stuff like google chrome.
Okay, so Ill take the Sapphire 6870 OC, I might crossfire it later. And about the case, is the LIAN LI really better than the Antec 900? Because I have heard really good stuff about it. Cant really find any decent reviews on the internet. Thanks for your help so far guys!

EDIT: It looks as if I wont be able to get the Lian Li Lancool case here in The Netherlands, any better, cheaper etc. alternatives to the Antec 900? Or is the Antec 900 still the best choice. It also has 4 standard fans instead of 3.

I wouldn't call that a problem.

I would get an SSD period, if you can afford it, but that's me.

So hellokitty, do you also think I should get another motherboard? I don't really want to end up with a cheap motherboard I also want something which I could expand, like adding more video cards. Something futureproof basically

HK how can u say that when you dont even have an SSD every SSD i have delt with has had some kinda firmware problem and just caused all kinds of headaches.

nubk there really isnt a future proof anything in the tech world but the antec 900 is a great case i use one on my main rig. As for the video card good choice and the MB just stick with what you have.

Alright, thanks klepto. The reason I want an SSD is kind of complicated. But I'd really like to have one, but are they that bad that I shouldn't get one anyway?

do what you want an ssd is great they speed up boots and load times great but you could have two 1TB drives for the cost of a regular ssd. i have just had bad experiences with corsair drives and ocz drive for customers i build rigs for. If you get a drive get an Intel drive as they seem to have the least amount of problems.

You mean, an Intel SSD? Didnt know that they made SSD's The thing is, I already have a HDD, I dont think it is 7200RPM. But are SSD's that much faster than a good 7200RPM HDD? Also, I heard that I shouldnt put Windows on my SSD, cuz that break my SSD really fast. Thx.

yes they are a lot faster and u can put windows on it just SSD's dont last as long as hard drives. yes intel makes SSD's