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Thoughts on new build? :)

By nubki11a
Oct 12, 2011
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  1. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,384   +15

    Games are where I look most often. I dont even game, I havnt gamed in years, but application performance is hands down excellent on these chips and if Im not building a rig to crunch 3D renders I'll look at how the picked-out-parts perform in games, since that is the second or first most demanding application after all, for me atleast.

    This is the only page I pulled up after clicking far enough into the artical, and sure enough as I remember the Core i5 2500k tucks the Phenom to sleep in games.
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7-2600k-review/20

    I know looking at one game isnt enough to justify a statement but I remember a pretty good idea about what I've read in detail in the past.
     
  2. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    hmmm...wow...okay
    1a) you were talking about a 2300 not a 2500K
    1) not sure what a "$50" cooler has to do with anything, You can use the same cooler on a x6
    2) a 2300 to 4.4?
    3) okay I quit, it's hard to debate when you are placing your arguments on your 'feelings'

    Boy you are big on cutesy euphemisms aren't you?

    you are right about that. you pick a single benchmark of a game that is 5 years old that only uses 2 cores. Tell ya what, pick a conclusion that you want and I will find game benches that match it...then I will find the opposite.

    Then why post it?
     
  3. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,384   +15

    Fair enough Red, I'll retain my thoughts/suggestions.
     
  4. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90


    I didn't say or suggest that agissi. I just have an opposing view and have had hands on this these items. Some of the reasons you gave were just not fact.
     
  5. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    It doesn't look as cool! I don't think plating is going to reduce the effectiveness of the copper underneath by very much given similar thickness. It's probably not going to change much at all, just a little bit of emissivity difference.
     
  6. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    did you even read my post or the link i provided agissi
     
  7. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Nice, thanks for all the replies :) So... Should I stick with the 1090T? And with my motherboard? The reason I chose this motherboard, is that it is really futureproof. Whenever u add another gfx card it'll run it at 8X and the first one still at 16X whilst other motherboards run both at 8X.
    And about the SSD, I couldnt really understand everything Agissi, about the cache stuff. So about the pagefile/swapfile (tbh, dont really know what that exactly is) 60GB wont be big enough? Because I would only use the SSD for BF3 and mayb another game and stuff like google chrome.
    Okay, so Ill take the Sapphire 6870 OC, I might crossfire it later. And about the case, is the LIAN LI really better than the Antec 900? Because I have heard really good stuff about it. Cant really find any decent reviews on the internet. Thanks for your help so far guys!

    EDIT: It looks as if I wont be able to get the Lian Li Lancool case here in The Netherlands, any better, cheaper etc. alternatives to the Antec 900? Or is the Antec 900 still the best choice. It also has 4 standard fans instead of 3.
     
  8. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    I wouldn't call that a problem.

    I would get an SSD period, if you can afford it, but that's me.
     
  9. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    So hellokitty, do you also think I should get another motherboard? I don't really want to end up with a cheap motherboard :p I also want something which I could expand, like adding more video cards. Something futureproof basically :)
     
  10. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    HK how can u say that when you dont even have an SSD every SSD i have delt with has had some kinda firmware problem and just caused all kinds of headaches.
     
  11. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    nubk there really isnt a future proof anything in the tech world but the antec 900 is a great case i use one on my main rig. As for the video card good choice and the MB just stick with what you have.
     
     
  12. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Alright, thanks klepto. The reason I want an SSD is kind of complicated. But I'd really like to have one, but are they that bad that I shouldn't get one anyway?
     
  13. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    do what you want an ssd is great they speed up boots and load times great but you could have two 1TB drives for the cost of a regular ssd. i have just had bad experiences with corsair drives and ocz drive for customers i build rigs for. If you get a drive get an Intel drive as they seem to have the least amount of problems.
     
  14. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    You mean, an Intel SSD? Didnt know that they made SSD's :p The thing is, I already have a HDD, I dont think it is 7200RPM. But are SSD's that much faster than a good 7200RPM HDD? Also, I heard that I shouldnt put Windows on my SSD, cuz that break my SSD really fast. Thx.
     
  15. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    yes they are a lot faster and u can put windows on it just SSD's dont last as long as hard drives. yes intel makes SSD's
     
  16. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Okay, cuz it would be nice if I could put Windows on it. But how long will an SSD last then? I dont to have to replace it after a year. Arent there any (small) SSDs thst just work properly?
     
  17. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    I've tried a computer with one though, and it's because I would rather have fast boot up speeds over gaming ability or something like that, but as I said earlier, that's just me.
    And no, I've never experienced the problems of having an SSD.
     
  18. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Anyone know if I can put Windows on an SSD? Without damaging the SSD, cuz thats what I heard.
     
  19. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,571   +103

    There was a problem with TRIM command and windows trying to defrag SSDs but I believe that is all in the past...

    http://www.ocztechnology.com/blog/?p=178
    "Make sure your SATA controller is set to AHCI mode (you can do so in your BIOS). AHCI is needed for native TRIM support in Windows 7. It’s recommended to run your SSD in AHCI mode to enable TRIM to do its job."

    Not had any problems with the Win7 install on my Crucial C300 128GB SSD so far, other than putting games on it as well and slowly but surely running out of space on it :D
     
  20. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Ah sweet, yeah I saw that. But is it worth buying an SSD?
     
  21. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,571   +103

    I find that working with large RAW camera image files in Lightroom they load, and the catalogue previews are visibly quite a bit quicker when setup on an SSD. Slightly faster boot, slightly faster load times in games and no clicking/whirring disk noise are the main differences I find. It's nice to have but in my opinion I don't think it's a necessity for a performance machine, like many other considerations if it's for a gaming rig I'd rather invest the money in a higher end graphics card, or perhaps a nicer/bigger monitor.

    Oh, and when Windows crashes a disk check on reboot completes considerably faster :D
     
  22. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    Cool, I can get them pretty cheap here I found out :D Thx for your help :)
     
  23. Cake

    Cake TS Rookie Posts: 18

    Have you thought about getting the i5 25k instead of your AMD hexacore?
     
  24. nubki11a

    nubki11a TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 49

    I need to get a new CPU cooler, as I heard that the H70 wasnt the best I could get for that price. So I am getting the Prolimatech Megahelms heatsink. "Push/Pull on the Megahalems makes it a monster." So I'm getting two fans, does anyone know of a good 120mm fan? I have been looking around and find these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...rue&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=2#scrollFullInfo and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200028. Are these any good? One has a a ball bearing type, and the other a sleeve. Is that a big difference? Any other recommendations on fans?
    Thanks in advance :)
     
  25. Cake

    Cake TS Rookie Posts: 18

    Dear nubkilla, I think I have the perfect solution for your cooling.
    you should get a nice notebook cooling pad :)

    Hartelijke groeten,

    Jochem
     


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