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Top end GTX 460 or low end HD 5850?

Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by Omnislip, Aug 10, 2010.

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  1. Omnislip Newcomer, in training Posts: 96

    Except thats the only supplied benchmark with the OC.
    How about Metro 2033? Lets face it, it's ATI games vs nVidia games. But I'd prefer the cooler, more efficient, cheaper card considering their performance is almost exactly the same.
  2. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,089   +194

    The facts:
    16 games tested.
    At 1680 res: GTX460 : 1307.8 fps aggregate, HD 5870 : 1449.3 fps aggregate
    At 1920 res: GTX460 : 1120.4 fps aggregate, HD 5870 : 1254.5 fps aggregate

    Advantage to HD 5870: at 1680 : 10.82%, at 1920: 11.97%
    Cost premium : Cheapest HD 5870 $355, GTX460 Hawk $250 so......355/250 = HD 4870 is 42% more expensive.

    Overclock to overclock ( MSI GTX460 Hawk $250, Gigabyte HD 5870 SOC in this case at 1000MHz core/shader, 1300MHz (5200 effective) vRAM)
    GTX 460: 42126 fps......HD 5870: 47463 fps. (+ 12.67%)

    And here is what happens when you divide the total fps by the retail cost.

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  3. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    GTX460 is apparently the better deal, but again, you already have the 5850.
    Go ahead if you can actually sell it for the price you paid.
    No you can't repeat or fix the past; no, not even if you know exactly what you should have done.
  4. mithun916 Newcomer, in training

    thanx guys.. my 5850 is a reference edition and i'm able to overclock it to 900\1200 with a minor voltage tweak (1.115v). I'm thinking about selling it for the same price(rs 14500) and getting a I gb zotac 460 for Rs 12000. Will i be stupid if i do this?? the gtx 460 is better when it comes to directx 11 gaming (from what i read in the benchmarks). even though there aren't a lot of dx11 titles out there, more titles are gonna come in the future. And, is it true that amd is phasing out the 5000 series and concentrating on the new 6000s? So is improved tesseslation on the 5000 series not gonna happen?

    Also one more thing, my processor is an amd athlon II x2 250. will it bottleneck my 5850 at 1920 * 1080 and below?
  5. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    If you can sell it at the same price that you bought it, it would be the same thing as buying a gtx460 right? Thats not stupid, per se.
    No comment on everything else you asked about...
  6. red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,795   +24

    yes that does not make any sense. The 5850 and the gtx 460 run very close to each other (slight edge to the 5850, but largely game specific) Tessellation in actual games is going to take a while to catch up to the hardware. So unless you are going to sit around and run 'Heaven 2.0' benchmark set at extreme tessellation ad infinitum, you are going through the protracted ordeal of selling your 5850 at a loss to buy a new gtx 460, and see the same FPS (maybe a few less) and no appreciable difference in your gaming experience. If you're<< ( :wave: Cap) like me...and I know I am [sic] wait at least until the Radeon 6xxx comes out. There is a reason that Metro 2033 went from the next big thing to the discount dump table at Walmart in a few months.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-graphics-card-review/1
     
  7. mithun916 Newcomer, in training

    And, is it true that amd is phasing out the 5000 series and concentrating on the new 6000s? So is improved tesseslation on the 5000 series not gonna happen?

    Also one more thing, my processor is an amd athlon II x2 250. will it bottleneck my 5850 at 1920 * 1080 and below?
  8. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,089   +194

    Tessellation is a function of shaders and tessellation engines (Hardware). Once a driver set is optimised for a card/series, no amount of driver revision will increase tessellation performance.
  9. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,245   +16

    At 1920x1080, most of the bottleneck will be eliminated, and you'd be able to further eliminate it if you up the image quality via options such as AA. Lower resolutions will display a bottleneck, but it will be insignificant, since for most games, you'd easily be getting 60+ FPS with everything maxed out, beyond which you won't be able to tell much of a difference in performance.
  10. EDO219 Newcomer, in training Posts: 298

    If you just want a dual-card configuration, then I would go with two GTX 460's instead of two Radeon 5850's. SLI seems to be more effective than Crossfire, for some reason.

    Personally, I went with two GTX 465's. In four years I can just buy another one off of Newegg for 70 bucks or so and use my final PCie slot for a 3-way SLI configuration. xD

    The GTX 460, however, can only be setup in a 2-way SLI configuration.
  11. mithun916 Newcomer, in training

    Thanx guys. I sold my 5850 for Rs 15000 and got the palit sonic platinum edition for Rs 13000. Killer card and it doesnt block my sata ports like the 5850. Also, I cannot see any framerate difference while gaming, except on mafia 2 with physx on, in which the 460 blows the 5850 out of the water. Couldn't wait for the HD 6000 series. Hope I wont cry when that comes out. I also bought an sli capable motherboard with the money i saved... so, I guess i'll be buying another 460 sometime soon... Anyways a big thank u to all those who replied to my query....