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  1. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Major Changes in this Release v1.10 HSagetV Skin for MVP

    Important Note: This is for Hauppuage Software Server and for those who use this software with SageTV instead of the SageTv MVP Client.

    What's New!

    I've re-coded the code so you can see the following changes.
    Change the format of the Main Menu to what you see below:
    Changed the order of selection to: SageTV Recordings, Music, Radio Photo.
    Setup which will open the correct menu per your selection.
    No more jumping around the menus. That's been fixed now.

    [IMG]

    1. SageTV Recordings
    2. Music
    3. Radio
    4. Photo
    5. Setup

    Note: For now on all new skins themes will start off with SageTV Recordings (all others will have Videos, Music, Radio, Photo, Setup in that order). This theme has active menus as black text instead of white so you can read what you have selected. Thats for this theme right now. Everything else will follow this format.

    Next version 1.15 will have Photo instead Pictures labeled when you select Photo. Setup will have all menu active text in black. Right now you have some that are. I am still working on it but you can use this theme right now as-is...

    Direct download for v1.10 here:
    http://files.filefront.com/hsagetv mmvp110exe/;8881473;/fileinfo.html

    Below was taken from the next v1.15 not released yet...

    StageTV Recordings
    [IMG]

    Music
    [IMG]

    Radio
    [IMG]

    Photo
    [IMG]

    Still working on Photo and Setup....
  2. Myzz617 Newcomer, in training Posts: 382

    Alright. thanks tipstir...thats enough to keep me busy 4 a while since my game rig is not built yet..Will make a check list and add the additional accessories after my build...as for the monitor i have 2 Hp 1740's. Should I up grade to a HD LCD? If so any recommendations?
  3. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    No you should be okay.. Are you planning on recording and watching recorded media on the PC or on the TV? The way I have it setup I can watch all recorded tv shows on the PC, TV or stream the media onto wireless laptops or wired desktop too. Most users just hook the PC to the TV. Some leave the PC in a closet and just use it a media recorder server. Remote into the box to check on things if needed. That's pretty much how I do it also.
  4. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    v1.15 Released!

    Direct download here!
    http://files.filefront.com/hsagetv mmvp115exe/;8919474;/fileinfo.html

    StageTV Recordings
    [IMG]


    What's New!
    16x9 Support Added to skin mods
    Changed OSD to match the theme, this is my style as you'll soon see.

    Note: I've added support to 16x9 skin ratio.. Don't worry if you have 4:3 it will still display the skin like normal
    If you got 16x9 turn on. With 16x9 SD/HDTV Widescreen you might see the image wider? Still working on that idea!
    My goal is to get more images for Pictures and more rows for Videos instead of 6 down say 12 down. Right now it's just 6.


    STill have to work on Photo and Configure but it works..
  5. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    HD Streaming Router WZR2-G300N Replacement

    Well as you know I have 7 Media MVP well the other day this week my router started to drop packets so that now meant time to find another router. So I decided to stick with the trusted Buffalo Routers, but to stay in line with the norm, I did get a N wireless router.

    [IMG]

    They have this labeled as a speed demon, well they aint kidding... I just ran some WAN to LAN test on www.speedtest.net and I got these results...

    try #1.

    [IMG]

    try #2.

    [IMG]

    Also prior loading times with the MVP took forever with my 8MB of RAM 4MB Flash wired router. Now this new N has 16MB and 4MB of Flash, but it has high speed features for HD streaming and wireless up to 300Mpbs.. With the 54G mode I get 125Mbp. But you got to use their network devices to get those results though. Now all media is loads faster. I use to wait for 353 pages with 6 lines per page per TV screen to show Music files. Now it 1, 2, 3 it on the screen. Everything looks quicker. Those 3 ANTs with my two Buffalo WHR-54G-HP Access Points makes the place wireless at strong excellent rating..

    I'll write a full review on post it on www.epinions.com later after all testing.. So far so good. I had to make some changes on my infrastructure. The old way with the NICs are gone the new way with the NICs is here to stay. So if you have some network streaming problems you might want to try out the popular WZR2-G300N.
  6. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Best speed.. Excellent Network Streaming A/V too!

    Try #3 gave me these results the cable modem can only go up to 43Mbps

    [IMG]


    WZR2-G300N - Buffalo Speed Demon Wireless/Wired Router Draft 2.0 N
    Specs..
    CPU 500MHz
    16MB of RAM
    4MB of Flash
     
  7. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    My Wireless Project with Buffalo & MediaMVP

    As you know I wanted to see how well the 3 wireless network devices would be with the wired Media MVP.

    First Test

    Here you have it a case study to see if all 3 Buffalo network wireless devices would work together but some features have to be disabled:

    WZR2-G300N
    [IMG]
    Wireless / Wired N-Mode, G-Mode, - B-Mode High Speed Demon Router / Access Point
    Marvel CPU 500MHz + Atheros chip 16MB of RAM & 4MB Flash - wired 10/100, wireless 54, 125, 300Mbps
    +

    WHR-HP-G54
    [IMG]
    Wireless / Wired G-Mode, - B-Mode High Power Turbo Speed MIMO Router / Access Point
    Broadcom with Afterburn CPU 200MHz 16MB of RAM & 4MB Flash - wired 10/100, wireless 54, 125Mbps

    +

    WLI-TX4-G54HP with Hauppauge Media MVP 1000
    [IMG][IMG][IMG]
    Wireless G-Mode, - B-Mode High Power Turbo Speed MIMO Ethernet Converter Drop Access for Wired Devices
    Broadcom CPU 200MHz 16MB of RAM & 4MB Flash - wired 10/100, wireless 54, 125Mbps

    I had purchased two WZR2-G300N one as used as wireless/wired router 20Hz and another I just got on Friday for the access point. I had a lot of problems and it looks like it was the one I was using as the router causing my problems as being faulty. I had just returned that lastnight, just told them it wasn't working. So I still have one WZR2-G300N which I will disable the wireless and use it as a wired router and then use or keep the current wireless access point WHR-HP-G54AP in place. Right now I am using 2 WHR-HP-G54 (one as wired router and the other one as access point) Still the wireless is showing Excellent signal on 1 desktop, 4 laptops and 1 WLI-TX4-G54HP with Hauppauge Media MVP.

    For some strange reason no matter what I did or configured the 2 WZR2-G300N with WLI-TX4-G54HP and MVP it just won't work. Kept on getting drop connections, where it would work then it won't. Then to make matters worst I lost the wired and wireless connections. I had to be the main router being used. As that was in placed for 1 week with WHR-HP-G54AP and WLI-TX4-G54HP and MVP was working perfectly. On the router side on each PC there seem to be WAN and LAN disconnection going on daily or at odd times. So the router was dropping the connections, so that was the first problem. Then when I got the second WZR2-G300N this past Friday night then all hell broke loose as they say. Nothing worked right.. I did get everything where it should be then the next day nothing worked.

    Well in a bit I'll configured the new WZR2-G300N with a laptop prior before I implement that migration into the existing WHR-HP-G54RT wired router which will be shutdown. It's only going to work this way it has to be wired can't use the wireless features or it won't work with WLI-TX4-G54HP.

    Setup... First Test Failure

    Setup... Second Test

    Setup... Third Test

    WZR2-G300N
    Wireless Disable
    Router Mode

    WHR-HP-G54AP
    Wireless Enabled
    Security Enabled
    Router Mode Disabled
    Access Point Mode
    Channel 11 Manual Lock
    G-Mode

    WLI-TX4-G54HP
    Wireless Mode
    Security Enabled
    Bridge Mode
    Channel 11 connected to WHR-HP-G54A
    G-Mode
  8. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Second Test

    Running the dual network here:

    4-wired desktop
    1-wireless desktop
    4-wireless laptops
    7-wired media mvp

    AOSS is disabled on all three devices..
    Test results show all work fine.. For Intranet, Internet and Streaming Media from HTPC to media players

    WHR-HP-G54
    Wired Router Mode Enabled
    Wireless Router Mode disabled
    G-Mode
    UPnp - Enabled
    Security Mode Disabled
    Wired Router

    Throughput WAN to LAN -- good
    Throughput LAN to LAN -- fair

    WHR-HP-G54
    Wireless Access Mode Enabled
    Wired Connections not used
    G-Mode
    Turbo 54G
    Multi-Cast Enabled
    125Mbps Enabled
    Security Mode Enabled

    Through LAN to LAN -- very good

    WLI-TX4-G54HP
    Wireless Ethernet Converter Bridge
    Security Enabled
    G-Turbo Mode Enabled
    125Mbps Enabled
    First device connected use MAC address for Hauppauge MediaMVP
  9. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Third Test

    Running the dual network here:

    4-wired desktop
    1-wireless desktop
    4-wireless laptops
    7-wired media mvp

    AOSS is disabled on all three devices..
    Test results show report better overhaul compared to use WHR-HP-G54 Wired Router.. For Intranet, Internet and Streaming Media from HTPC to media players

    WZR2-G300N
    Wired Router Mode Enabled
    Wireless Router Mode disabled
    G-Mode -Only
    UPnp - Enabled
    Wireless Security Mode Disabled

    Throughput WAN to LAN -- Excellent
    Throughput LAN to LAN -- Excellent
    Throughput Downloading - Excellent
    Throughput Streaming Media - Excellent

    WHR-HP-G54 + 4db Gain ANT
    Wireless Access Mode Enabled
    Wired Connections not used
    G-Mode
    Turbo 54G
    Multi-Cast Enabled
    125Mbps Enabled
    Security Mode Enabled

    Through LAN to LAN -- Very Good to Excellent 5 Bars
    Throughput Streaming Media - Excellent

    WLI-TX4-G54HP
    Wireless Ethernet Converter Bridge
    Security Enabled
    G-Turbo Mode Enabled
    125Mbps Enabled
    First device connected use MAC address for Hauppauge MediaMVP

    Throughput Streaming Media - Excellent
  10. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Everything is working A.O.K!
  11. thrower1 Newcomer, in training

    Price

    What prices would one be looking at to set up a HTPC? How cheap could one get?
  12. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    What you need?

    Do you want to buy one? Or Build one?

    If you already have a spare PC around say 1GHz with 512MB of RAM and 200GB HDD you can start there. Just need to buy a tuner card. Range $79 and up.

    Recommended
    Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 - single tuner
    Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500 - dual tuner
    Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-Series for NTSC/ATSC

    Price around on the net as prices do drop Use the link below for tuner cards
    http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=hauppauge&srt=t&mi=0&m=&view=

    If you want to build a system:

    1. AMD X2 X64-bit Avg CPU Speed 2GHz
    2. RAM 1GB Min
    3. HDD 320GB Min
    4. Video: 128MB AGP 8x Min S-Video Out
    5. Sound Card: Any will do
    6. Tuner Card: Listed above
    7. CASE: Any to match your TV
    8. MOBO: with SATA II 300
    9. PSU: 430W min Recommend 500W with SATA power connectors
    10. Wireless:
    11. Keyboard
    12. Laser Mouse
    13. Network Card

    Software: Free/Pay for EPG (Media Portal) or Pay for (SAGETV) free EPG
    OS: Windows Media Center 2005 SP2
    or
    OS: Windows Vista Ultra 2007 with Media Center 2007

    $300 to build a budget system, might be slightly higher though.
    You can buy systems already made from HP an etc.. You'll have to check on prices for that as they vary.
  13. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    Fourth and Fifth Test

    Fourth Test - Failure bady-- DHCP Client Table can't maintain auto assign IP, you have to make everything static even for wireless laptops, the unit will try to assign IP already assigned to another devices where you would get IP conflict. This happen to the first PC connected to the ports it also happen on wireless for DHCP. Well then came the WAN and LAN connections started to drop badly by day 10 to a point that my wired Hauppauge MediaMVP I couldn't watch any media on it. Connections would just drop.

    Fifth Test - I had to go back to my standby router WHR-HP-G54 used only as wired router. Still have number 2 upstairs in a closet working great as wireless access point. This is so weird why would the WHR-HP-G54 work with no hiccups no drops and no DHCP issues where the WZR2-G300N fails in this part. I've taken this crappy router right back to the store where it came from!

    Now with the WHR-HP-G54 used as a wired router using stock firmware there seems to be a problem when I transfer large files say 300MB to another PC on the main floor. I get a message saying it's going to take 31-60 mins. This is crazy! The WZR2-G300N besides being crappy would take only 30 seconds to transfer the same file. So what's wrong with the WHR-HP-G54? Well let me see I don't connect anything devices into the wireless WHR-HP-G54-2 access point I use another 5-point switch which that access point connects to inside the closet, that makes all the wireless focus on the device itself instead of it managing the switch ports.

    So why not apply the same method to the WHR-HP-G54-1 don't use the switch ports on it. So I use DLINK 5-port fast ethernet switch those have extra buffers per ports. Wow! what a difference I get 30 seconds now with that same file. Let the WHR-HP-G54 do it's router but not let it manage the switch ports as they don't seem to work well. But companies do the same thing everything should come down to the area in a switch otherwise you would have bottlenecks. I must say my old dlink wired router I didn't need to use a another switch too it.

    Everything is working as it should no messages for now...

    Peace!
  14. xquizyt Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    Question the set up you suggested on the 1st page is slightly different than the second page.
    Ex. You stated that any soundcard would do on second page but on 1st page said that it should have analog, digital coax.

    I just want to make sure since I'm getting a sound card now that I get one that will let me upgrade later to get the computer tv recording experience.
  15. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    The first page is using onboard 6 chan audio. You can use PCI or PCI-Express if you prefer. The only reason you would change this setup if you started to get hicups in the audio. Otherwise you should be good to go..
  16. k.jacko Newcomer, in training Posts: 743

  17. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    I've posted in your post.. If you need help I'll come around more often.. Got some updates to post here... As well very soon..!
  18. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15

    No Workgroup PCs in My Network Places?

    I was starting to have a problem with Hauppauge Media MVP Server where it couldn't open may workgroup or access any of the other server systems on my network. So if you can't see your work group PCs in MY Network Places, then you have a problem like I did:

    To fix..

    Under My Network Places
    Set up a home or small office network
    Make sure your work group matches what's in there
    and continue to run..

    Next do the following...

    click on start
    click on run
    type: cmd

    type: ipconfig /flushdns
    type: nbtstat -r
    type: netsh interface ip delete arpcache

    Now go to your Network Connections
    Right click on your LAN or WLAN
    Click on Properties
    Click on Internet TCP/IP
    Click on Advance

    Default Gateway should have your DG (router)
    If not put the IP in there and leave the Metric alone.
    Click on the Wins tab
    Change Default NetBIOS
    To Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP

    Click apply or okay

    Now...

    click on start
    click on run
    type: services.msc

    Make sure.. Computer Browsing is Enable and Started (auto)
    Make sure... Network Connections is Enabled and Started (auto)

    If you want your Router to show up under My Network Places under XP like it does Under Vista

    You need to make sure SSDP is enabled and started (auto)
    You need to make sure UPnP is enabled and started (auto)

    In your router turn on UPnP (some of you say it slows down your connections, but I don't see that happening..

    Now under My Network Places there is:

    Show UPnP Devices click on that.. If you get an error, then you need to rebuild the dbase.

    Fix is here:

    Click on start
    click on run
    type: esentutl /p %windir%\security\database\secedit.sdb

    This should fix this problem..

    Click on Show UPnP Devices again..
    Might have to reboot the PC for it to show your Router.
    Once the Router shows up in My Network Places
    You'll have a command to Invoke the Router which
    will open the Web GUI for the Router.

    Enjoy!...
  19. lilgeez Newcomer, in training

    Nice Rig :D
  20. tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 3,668   +15