Twitch suspends streamer for discharging a firearm on air

[ShagnWagn]

Care to look up how many are killed in self-wrecking cars per day? Never mind. I'll do that for you, but I'll give you a hint - it is far, far, far less than 500 per day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-driving_car_fatalities

It appears you have been duped by elementary math. So, what if there was only one self-wrecking car on the road? You are going to say "look, only two deaths compared to how many hundreds by humans every day!!!!"... The other big part is - death by computer. It's a whole new Darwin Award. Are you prepared to test out one of these with a sensor failure going around a mountain curve? And while your family is in the car with you? I didn't think so. I would put myself, my family, my friends, anyone - including yourself, at the risk of a computer malfunction. Which by fallible programming and hardware that *will* fail - even brand new. Go ask any dealership mechanic and they will laugh in your face if you try to tell them brand new cars never have major issues.

 

[Puiu]

If only it was that simple. The person aiming to do you harm probably doesn't think that way either. I don't know about the next guy. But I would use deadly force if I didn't see another way out. The authorities wouldn't be so bold while knocking in doors. If they lived by your sentiments. They will knock in your door and shoot you dead just for acting surprised. That story alone makes me want to own firearms.

I live in Romania, an eastern european third world country by most definitions, and I don't expect someone to attack me with a gun in the streets or in my home.

Unfortunately statistically that's to be expected in some of the more dangerous places in the US (and even "safer" places). And it will continue to be so because of the huge number of guns that civilians have. You have to start somewhere to reduce the number of guns whether some people like it or not. How long will the US continue to look worse than even countries that are in constant war in terms of gun deaths?

 

[lostinlodos]

THIS. I'm waiting for someone with a national platform to step up and call for alcohol control...

They tried that. That’s the same issue as firearms. Banning things because people are stupid isn’t the answer to anything.
We just need harsher penalties for stupidity.
I’m more roman in my punishment idea.
If you go on a shooting rampage and are caught. You should be tried and if convicted you should be chained to a wall and your victims should get to randomly shoot at you.
If you drive drunk and run someone over then you should be placed on a track while people randomly run you over.
He got drunk and shot his computer. That’s it.
Rather than legislation he should be shamed. This would be a great teaching clip about firearms safety.

 

[Burty117]

Why does everyone keep bringing up Alcohol? Alcohol is consumed for fun and is normally something people drink in a social environment.

Firearms are design, tested and manufactured to kill people, that's their entire purpose.

They are very different things, as always, look at the rest of the developed world that have banned guns but not Alcohol etc...

Would be kinda cool if America did ban alcohol and not guns, then we could compare the stats between somewhere like Australia and the USA to see what had a greater impact on driving down shootings. Banning alcohol or banning guns. I feel like we already know the answer to that though...

 

[cliffordcooley]

And it will continue to be so because of the huge number of guns that civilians have.

Gun ownership is not the problem. Our general attitude towards life is. Like I said earlier the tool is not the issue. The person using the tool is. And we are socially breeding them left and right.

 

[wiyosaya]

Something I've learnt on Techspot when it comes to American's and their guns. It doesn't matter what facts or proof from other places in the world that show gun crime dramatically drop by removing the guns. They will always scream second amendment and for some reason, no one in America can stand up for themselves without a gun, Always so extreme.

I would not say no one. I'm an American - and I do not own a gun.

 

[wiyosaya]

So then, since you consider yourself somewhat of a progressive, I prithee tell us, which should we outlaw first, booze, or tanks?

???

 

[wiyosaya]

It appears you have been duped by elementary math. So, what if there was only one self-wrecking car on the road? You are going to say "look, only two deaths compared to how many hundreds by humans every day!!!!"... The other big part is - death by computer. It's a whole new Darwin Award. Are you prepared to test out one of these with a sensor failure going around a mountain curve? And while your family is in the car with you? I didn't think so. I would put myself, my family, my friends, anyone - including yourself, at the risk of a computer malfunction. Which by fallible programming and hardware that *will* fail - even brand new. Go ask any dealership mechanic and they will laugh in your face if you try to tell them brand new cars never have major issues.

I think you should re-read that page. It gives the total number of people killed in self-driving car accidents. Quite clearly, there are only a few, so far. Couple that with that actual number of self-driving vehicles on the road and the number of miles driven, and statistically, the deaths are insignificant compared to how many happen each day from human driven cars.

I am far from saying that self-driving cars need to be approached carefully, and I am also far from saying that cars, in general, do not have problems. In fact, I come down on the side of system malfunctions in self-driving vehicles should kill no one.

Since the numbers of deaths in human driven vehicles is substaintially more, we should just ban all cars by your reasoning!

I also figure that you did not read the post I linked to about the number of deaths per day in the US from gun violence. That number is actually around 100 per day (approximately 500 people per day are killed and injured by guns in the US) and around 40,000 per year. So simple math at 40,000 per year in the US vs 10 per year in Japan works out to 4,000 times the death rate from guns in the US compared with Japan.

 

[wiyosaya]

Why does everyone keep bringing up Alcohol? Alcohol is consumed for fun and is normally something people drink in a social environment.

Firearms are design, tested and manufactured to kill people, that's their entire purpose.

They are very different things, as always, look at the rest of the developed world that have banned guns but not Alcohol etc...

Would be kinda cool if America did ban alcohol and not guns, then we could compare the stats between somewhere like Australia and the USA to see what had a greater impact on driving down shootings. Banning alcohol or banning guns. I feel like we already know the answer to that though...

As I see it, the answer is simple. As this guy on Twitch so clearly demonstrated, alcohol and guns do not mix.

IMO, there are limits to alcohol, in general, especially when it crosses into alcoholism - as such, alcohol, even when consumed in social settings, is no longer consumed for social reasons.

For me, I do not see a need to consume alcohol to be social.

 

[ShagnWagn]

I think you should re-read that page. It gives the total number of people killed in self-driving car accidents. Quite clearly, there are only a few, so far. Couple that with that actual number of self-driving vehicles on the road and the number of miles driven, and statistically, the deaths are insignificant compared to how many happen each day from human driven cars.

I am far from saying that self-driving cars need to be approached carefully, and I am also far from saying that cars, in general, do not have problems. In fact, I come down on the side of system malfunctions in self-driving vehicles should kill no one.

Since the numbers of deaths in human driven vehicles is substaintially more, we should just ban all cars by your reasoning!

I also figure that you did not read the post I linked to about the number of deaths per day in the US from gun violence. That number is actually around 100 per day (approximately 500 people per day are killed and injured by guns in the US) and around 40,000 per year. So simple math at 40,000 per year in the US vs 10 per year in Japan works out to 4,000 times the death rate from guns in the US compared with Japan.

I hate to say, but wikipedia is only a descent source of info on certain things. If you really want to look at your page, this is pretty scary: "human intervention for autonomous vehicles was needed every 13 to 5,600 miles". That means there could have been a death every 13 to 5,600 miles. How can you say that is safer? This is also counting for perfect weather conditions for nearly all of them, which is laughable. And people want to kick human drivers off the roads? damn... I guess they thinking murdering children inside their mother is ok, so I guess it shouldn't surprise me.
I also call BS on this: "Cars driven under traditional human control are currently involved in approximately 1.18 fatalities for every 100,000,000 mi "
Really?? So every person that has driven 100k miles has killed at least one person? Are you seriously kidding me? Do you really think this is accurate? lol. I hope you understand how sad this page on wikipedia is. Because everything on the internet is true eh?

Also, https://www.tesladeaths.com/
Again, keep in mind these are only *reported* incidents. Add that this is only for Tesla cars - there are many other manufacturers forcing their cars on us. Imagine how many are not reported. And this list keeps on growing.

 

[candle_86]

I live in Romania, an eastern european third world country by most definitions, and I don't expect someone to attack me with a gun in the streets or in my home.

Unfortunately statistically that's to be expected in some of the more dangerous places in the US (and even "safer" places). And it will continue to be so because of the huge number of guns that civilians have. You have to start somewhere to reduce the number of guns whether some people like it or not. How long will the US continue to look worse than even countries that are in constant war in terms of gun deaths?

Gun control doesn't work, the worst gun statistics come from the cities with the strictest gun laws that's an actual fact. The bad guys will not turn in their guns and that leaves everyone else a victim. And no air rifle no matter what it's shooting has the stopping power to really stop a criminal. That air rifle will get you shot by an armed thug, on the other hand my 357 Magnum hitting them in the chest will stop them, I could hit their shoulder and they are still going down.

 

[Larsenex]

That's great. It also put the gun in the hand of a drunken twitch streamer that shot his own monitor. Very lucky nobody was hurt.

I am sure he bought that weapon to defend himself against the tyranny of the current U.S government and it's massive standing army. That must still be a pressing need in the current political climate. ?

But unfortunately this is how they actually end up being used most of the time these days it seems. I know legislating for stupidity is difficult, but come on.

Your response clearly indicates your bias against lawful gun owners and your complete ignorance of what the 2nd amendment is about. Was this guy in the wrong? Yes of course. Is it indicative of EVERYONE who owns guns? You seem to think so. Keep posting stupid comments anonymous internet guy....

 

[Puiu]

Gun control doesn't work, the worst gun statistics come from the cities with the strictest gun laws that's an actual fact. The bad guys will not turn in their guns and that leaves everyone else a victim. And no air rifle no matter what it's shooting has the stopping power to really stop a criminal. That air rifle will get you shot by an armed thug, on the other hand my 357 Magnum hitting them in the chest will stop them, I could hit their shoulder and they are still going down.

Gun control works and the facts prove it. The worst states to have the least harsh gun control laws.
FACT: The 10 states with the weakest gun control laws have the highest gun death rates
FACT 2: the rest of the world proves that you are wrong about gun control laws
BONUS FACT 3: Hawaii has some of the harshest gun control laws in the US and the lowest gun death rate, while Alaska is the exact opposite
BONUS FACT 4: According to CDC statistics, over 70% of homicides involve guns

Before trying to use "facts" maybe you should fact check what you say.

The fact that, statistically, 1 mass shooting happens every day in the US should tell you just how incredibly grave the situation is. Literally thousands of kids die every year from being shot (it is the second leading cause of death among children and first for black children).

Gun freaks should use other arguments because facts don't work. Facts are why people want fewer guns and harsher laws.

 

[Puiu]

Your response clearly indicates your bias against lawful gun owners and your complete ignorance of what the 2nd amendment is about. Was this guy in the wrong? Yes of course. Is it indicative of EVERYONE who owns guns? You seem to think so. Keep posting stupid comments anonymous internet guy....

You don't need everyone to be stupid, you need a big enough minority and US has long since past the threshold. If the 2nd amendment is not working for the people anymore but against them, then it is probably time to change it and bring it in line with modern times.

 

[candle_86]

Gun control works and the facts prove it. The worst states to have the least harsh gun control laws.
FACT: The 10 states with the weakest gun control laws have the highest gun death rates
FACT 2: the rest of the world proves that you are wrong about gun control laws
BONUS FACT 3: Hawaii has some of the harshest gun control laws in the US and the lowest gun death rate, while Alaska is the exact opposite
BONUS FACT 4: According to CDC statistics, over 70% of homicides involve guns

Before trying to use "facts" maybe you should fact check what you say.

The fact that, statistically, 1 mass shooting happens every day in the US should tell you just how incredibly grave the situation is. Literally thousands of kids die every year from being shot (it is the second leading cause of death among children and first for black children).

Gun freaks should use other arguments because facts don't work. Facts are why people want fewer guns and harsher laws.

Facts do work, Chicago has the strictest laws but the highest incidence of gun violence. But I'm done arguing with you, what the world wants is irrelevant I do not care, the in can not seize my weapons, and if the rest of the world wants to be a victim it just means their easier to conquer.

 

[captaincranky]

You don't need everyone to be stupid, you need a big enough minority and US has long since past the threshold. If the 2nd amendment is not working for the people anymore but against them, then it is probably time to change it and bring it in line with modern times.

You continually seem to think you're entitled to legislate for the US. And yes, it is quite annoying.

How about if I start legislating for Romania?

I think, that your very restrictive gun laws, are a vestige of the former Soviet regime.

In other words, the restrictions on gun ownership in Romania, are self preservation tactics on the part of the Communists in power. A fair question would be, "did bonafide members of the Communist party, have easier access to personal weapons, than the people who weren't even allowed to pray to their god"?

In that vein, IMO, Romania should relax, if not fully repeal their oppressive gun control legislation.

As for the rest of you millennial snowflakes. you continually spout on about how, "electric cars will eliminate highway fatalities",

I say, "get off you damned cell phones and watch where you're going".

As for gun control, I enjoy watching the news and hearing about how two degenerate drug gang members blew each other's brains out over the weekend.

I also enjoy stories about how some junkie walked into a bodega with a gun demanding money, and the store clerk with a legal permitted firearm, blew his brains out.

In fact, I call both of those examples, "public service executions", final answer.

Get over yourselves, and cease and desist from all the other nonsense rhetoric and whining about how, "nothing is safe enough for you"

People have to die, to make room for more. The current population growth is estimated at 81 million a year, on top of the three or four billion too many we already have. No amount of Musk's bullsh!t or Teslas, or anything else he does to suck the money out of people's pockets, is going to change that fact. We are consuming the entire planet at a rate it simply can't sustain, period.

People have to die, by one means or another, get over it. With what we've done to all the other species on the planet, we have it coming to us.

As for someone getting drunk and, "killing" his own monitor, IMHO, a 30 day ban would have been more than enough.

Because, this was simply a case of game behavior spilling over into the physical world. But oh no, video games can't cause violence, otherwise, they'd take them off you, along with the guns.

Let's hear the snowflakes sing, "you're wrong Cranky, we know it all".

 

[Puiu]

You continually seem to think you're entitled to legislate for the US. And yes, it is quite annoying.

How about if I start legislating for Romania?

I think, that your very restrictive gun laws, are a vestige of the former Soviet regime.

In other words, the restrictions on gun ownership in Romania, are self preservation tactics on the part of the Communists in power. A fair question would be, "did bonafide members of the Communist party, have easier access to personal weapons, than the people who weren't even allowed to pray to their god"?

In that vein, IMO, Romania should relax, if not fully repeal their oppressive gun control legislation.

As for the rest of you millennial snowflakes. you continually spout on about how, "electric cars will eliminate highway fatalities",

I say, "get off you damned cell phones and watch where you're going".

As for gun control, I enjoy watching the news and hearing about how two degenerate drug gang members blew each other's brains out over the weekend.

I also enjoy stories about how some junkie walked into a bodega with a gun demanding money, and the store clerk with a legal permitted firearm, blew his brains out.

In fact, I call both of those examples, "public service executions", final answer.

Get over yourselves, and cease and desist from all the other nonsense rhetoric and whining about how, "nothing is safe enough for you"

People have to die, to make room for more. The current population growth is estimated at 81 million a year, on top of the three or four billion too many we already have. No amount of Musk's bullsh!t or Teslas, or anything else he does to suck the money out of people's pockets, is going to change that fact. We are consuming the entire planet at a rate it simply can't sustain, period.

People have to die, by one means or another, get over it. With what we've done to all the other species on the planet, we have it coming to us.

As for someone getting drunk and, "killing" his own monitor, IMHO, a 30 day ban would have been more than enough.

Because, this was simply a case of game behavior spilling over into the physical world. But oh no, video games can't cause violence, otherwise, they'd take them off you, along with the guns.

Let's hear the snowflakes sing, "you're wrong Cranky, we know it all".

Your entire argument boils down to "millennial snowflakes".

I'm not entitled to change any law, but when the US is the one who is trying to impose its "values' in other countries then people expect those values to not be stupid. The US changing for the better is good for the entire world.

And above everything it's about saving human lives, not "gun rights". Where I or you live is irrelevant.

FYI nobody would care if you started legislations in Romania if what you are doing is good. But unlike the US, you can't legally "buy" laws (good or bad) like how the companies making guns do.

And if you actually researched about the population growth of the world you would know that it is expected to slow down and stabilise (completely stop) at around 11-12 billion by 2100 with the majority of the growth happening in Africa. After which we should see a small decline because the fertility rate of women will go down to sub 2.

 

[candle_86]

Your entire argument boils down to "millennial snowflakes".

I'm not entitled to change any law, but when the US is the one who is trying to impose its "values' in other countries then people expect those values to not be stupid. The US changing for the better is good for the entire world.

And above everything it's about saving human lives, not "gun rights". Where I or you live is irrelevant.

FYI nobody would care if you started legislations in Romania if what you are doing is good. But unlike the US, you can't legally "buy" laws (good or bad) like how the companies making guns do.

And if you actually researched about the population growth of the world you would know that it is expected to slow down and stabilise (completely stop) at around 11-12 billion by 2100 with the majority of the growth happening in Africa. After which we should see a small decline because the fertility rate of women will go down to sub 2.

What you need to understand is your wish is not our problem, there have been numerous studies on why a gun ban won't work here. We aren't like other countries with guns being a right and other countries do not have the example so clearly laid out that gun ownership is what provided them freedom.

Gun control only works if the population agrees, Australia had 87% of it's privately held guns turned in willingly, under similar legislation here just targeting the ar-15 or high capicity magazines the state of Connecticut only had 7% willingly surrender a very limited amount before the ban was challenged. A nation wide ban and confiscation would see 5-7% surrendering their firearms and then only the registered ones. The rest of the guns would require door to door searches which would quickly escalate into armed resistance with the support of local police. See West Virginia for how rural areas would respond.

Now if you don't want American values then don't have them. I'm perfectly fine with America adopting an isolationist policy and removing our troops and weapons from Europe and Asia because we do not gain a solid benefit to providing security and stability to Europe.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Gun control only works if the population agrees

I would have stated that differently. I would have stated gun control only works, if the people want to relinquish all power.

Importance of We the People

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The Constitution opening up with “We the People” immediately affirms that the Constitution is of the people, for the people, and by the people of the United States. This
interpretation, which arises most strongly from the presence of “We the People” in the Preamble, effectively leads to an understanding of the Constitution as affecting the people directly and not through regulations imposed on the States. In other words, those words define that the interaction between the Constitution and the citizens of the United States is direct and immediate, meaning that the Constitution, and the government it creates, supersedes any State government.

If we relinquish our rights. The next edit will be the Constitution.

 

[Puiu]

What you need to understand is your wish is not our problem, there have been numerous studies on why a gun ban won't work here. We aren't like other countries with guns being a right and other countries do not have the example so clearly laid out that gun ownership is what provided them freedom.

Gun control only works if the population agrees, Australia had 87% of it's privately held guns turned in willingly, under similar legislation here just targeting the ar-15 or high capicity magazines the state of Connecticut only had 7% willingly surrender a very limited amount before the ban was challenged. A nation wide ban and confiscation would see 5-7% surrendering their firearms and then only the registered ones. The rest of the guns would require door to door searches which would quickly escalate into armed resistance with the support of local police. See West Virginia for how rural areas would respond.

Now if you don't want American values then don't have them. I'm perfectly fine with America adopting an isolationist policy and removing our troops and weapons from Europe and Asia because we do not gain a solid benefit to providing security and stability to Europe.

Isolation = death for the US. It's a known impossibility since you 100% depend on the rest of the world for everything. If you want to turn into the next North Korea then be my guest, but even they depend on China for food

What most pro gun people don't understand is that harsher laws doesn't mean that the guns will be taken the next day. The transition period will take decades based on how many guns are in the US. And as with most things, you have to start with the education.

 

[ShagnWagn]

If someone who thinks "gun control" is an answer to everything, then they should move somewhere it already is and live in their "paradise". Quit trying to shove it down everyone else's throats.

 

[cliffordcooley]

What most pro gun people don't understand is that harsher laws doesn't mean that the guns will be taken the next day.

I will agree with harsher penalties but not laws. Laws effect everyone. Penalties effect only the ones that abuse everyone's rights. If a person can't be trusted with a gun. Then truthfully they can't be trusted at all and should be detained until they can be.

And getting me started on gun laws that don't have anything to do with gun usage. Just because someone is criminal doesn't mean they no longer have citizenship rights. And their criminal offenses may not have had anything to do with firearms. It's all BS! And even if their crime did involve guns. They served their time or they wouldn't be free to roam around. Not to mention anyone that wants to carry, will carry regardless of any regulations.

We already have to pay royalty fees for our gun rights in the form of permits. Further regulations flat out stomp on our rights. That is not what our forefathers had in mind, because at the time they had no way of policing who purchased. And believe me guns were just as dangerous during those times. The basic need for granted people the right to bear arms still stands today. That much has not changed.

People were hunting and fishing for centuries. Doing so without anyone telling them they couldn't without permits, or prohibiting them from tools they once used freely in the past. It's all about maintaining power and collecting taxes. Their laws do not have anything to do with protecting "the peoples" interest. We've lost sight of that goal long ago.

 

[candle_86]

Isolation = death for the US. It's a known impossibility since you 100% depend on the rest of the world for everything. If you want to turn into the next North Korea then be my guest, but even they depend on China for food

What most pro gun people don't understand is that harsher laws doesn't mean that the guns will be taken the next day. The transition period will take decades based on how many guns are in the US. And as with most things, you have to start with the education.

Nah not really, we trade with China, Europe doesn't really benefit us much except to counter Russia and to ensure Germany doesn't go all exterminate the world again, other than that Europe isn't really much of a benefit, and honestly if I was in a position to dictate policy is begin pulling forces from Europe and let y'all look to your own defenses against Russia. I see no reason to provide defense for a continent that mocks America and holds us in contempt. I mean sure America pulls out France would be speaking Russian in a week but that's not our problem.

And that's a hard no on gun control, veterans won't support it, rural America won't support it, conservatives won't support it. The support for it comes only from a vocal minority in this country.

 

[captaincranky]

Your response clearly indicates your bias against lawful gun owners and your complete ignorance of what the 2nd amendment is about. Was this guy in the wrong? Yes of course. Is it indicative of EVERYONE who owns guns? You seem to think so. Keep posting stupid comments anonymous internet guy....

Since we've touched on the topic of, "internet anonymity", is your name really "Larsenex"

 

[captaincranky]

Your entire argument boils down to "millennial snowflakes".

As a matter of fact, one of ther primary reasons I come here, is to study their deviant value systems, self righteousness, and social entitlement crap they constantly spew.

And above everything it's about saving human lives, not "gun rights". Where I or you live is irrelevant.

Well, you certainly are not going to be shot by anyone in the US from where you are, so get over it. I keep trying to drill into your skull, that some people have to die, and others have begotten the right to be killed, for the greater good.

FYI nobody would care if you started legislations in Romania if what you are doing is good. But unlike the US, you can't legally "buy" laws (good or bad) like how the companies making guns do.

Governments are for sale the world around. The only reason you know ours is, is due to the fact we have a free press, not some state controlled sham.

They tell my an AK-47 can be built for maybe 20 bucks (US). In case you don't understand what the "AK" partly stands for, it's the name of the inventor, Mikhail Kalashnikov (Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947 ).

". BTW, he's a Russian, and those weapons are being pumped into 3rd world countries for the express purpose of killing other people. So, why don't you go lobby ,the Russian government to cease their production. (And good luck with that

And if you actually researched about the population growth of the world you would know that it is expected to slow down and stabilize (completely stop) at around 11-12 billion by 2100 with the majority of the growth happening in Africa. After which we should see a small decline because the fertility rate of women will go down to sub 2 (**).

Who in their right mind can "expect" what the population will be 80 years from now? The only reason it would, is people starving to the point where they can no longer reproduce. This earth can't support the 7+ billion we have now, without destroying the planet in it's pursuit. And then you want to whimper about, "genetically modified food", which has higher disease resistance and crop yields.

In any case I have no idea how we've managed to turn some a**hole gamer boy "killing his monitor", into a referendum on US gun laws. We used to call that, "making a mountain out of a molehill".

In response, I think all violent video games should be outlawed, along with "gansta rap", at which point, the level of violence might drop, and I'd be able to not have to listen to you talk in circles.

(**) FWIW, the female Homo sapiens menses cease, after the BMi index of fat, drops below a certain point:

"Why does low body fat stop menstruation?
low levels of body fat – the female body cannot menstruate below a certain percentage of body fat. exercise-related hormones – exercising makes the body release certain hormones, such as beta endorphins and catecholamines. High levels of these hormones are thought to affect how oestrogen and progesterone work".

In case you were wondering, (which you more than likely conveniently weren't, the AK-47 is still in production:

Yes. The AK 47 is being made in Russia, China, Pakistan, Venezuela and the US. ... The AK 47 with the forged steel receiver is still made, as is the AKM with a stamped steel receiver. In addition to manufacture, there are many places that refurbish AK 47 platform weapons.

Who knows, one day in the not too distant future, one or more might be coming to a town near you.