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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Nick Lee, Apr 3, 2008.

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  1. rev_olie TechSpot Maniac Posts: 598

    if you wanted a challenge go ahead and install a floyd rose but i wouldnt advise it untill you have a few years of experience because of some of the delicate parts it may get tricky at some point but yer if you wanted a go go for it
  2. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    Those are some great ideas that I would love to try but i'm really inexperienced. I was thinking of keeping as it is because it was my grandfathers and I was going to buy me a new guitar. the only thing I done to this guitar was removed one spring and added 3 new ones (total of 5) so that it wouldn't get knocked out of tune as easy (I heard this would help, and so I did) because it gets knocked out of tune easily. I thought I could replace the tunning pegs to help because they wiggle a little and I just haven't changed them yet.

    As for the guitar I want... I want an Ibanez RG1570 Prestige $800 and if I wanted it to sound like the Steve Vai's JEM7V ($3,000) (white with the rose on the neck) I would replace the pickups and it should have similar sound...but I don't care about that. I just want the Ibanez.

    As for my amp I am using a 10watt First Act $60 amp.
  3. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/Ichigo1174/Guitar/

    Here are all the pics you need of my guitar to see it.
    As it is dirty and needs to be cleaned but i don't know exactly what to use because I don't want something cheap to use to clean it... I don't want to mess it up, and there is quite a bit of rust on the bridge ...but it works good. also do any of you know how to help remove the rust, I have a dremel tool with some polishing bits and so on if that would work....

    EDIT: I'm also thinking of getting this amp with that guitar I hope it would get the sound I want...
    http://www.samash.com/catalog/showi...=Department&GroupCode=&categorysubsearch=true

    the reviews look promising
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/guitar_amplifiers/line_6/spider_iii_75/index.html

    all this I would try and get from my summer job.
  4. rev_olie TechSpot Maniac Posts: 598

    yer ibanezes are very nice guitars real workhorses nice sound to

    Also the amp. I dont know wether it would really give you that Stevie Via sound. Im not sure whether it would give you enought edge and maybe something more rounded. Have you tried looking at randal? something like that

    http://www.randallamplifiers.com/

    As for cleaning you should get in my opinion

    http://www.pianocoversonline.co.uk/gibsonluthierschoiceguitarcareset-p-2930.html
    Thats mainley for everythibng on the guitar but alos

    http://www.musicstreet.co.uk/fast-fret-p-446.html
    thats great for strings on the go

    http://www.musicstreet.co.uk/kyser-....html?osCsid=e12ff377c99bc1073916ec878dfe0c94
    You really do need lemon oil to finish of the frets after cleaning and the body also a cloth to do it as dusters will break up

    http://www.musicstreet.co.uk/planet....html?osCsid=e12ff377c99bc1073916ec878dfe0c94

    Hope that helps you a bit as good quality stuf can add up to 10 years to your guitar life
  5. halo71 Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,290

    Nick, another thing you could do is block that trem. That would keep it from going out of tune so easily. You want the trem to be setting level with the body really.
  6. ninnche Newcomer, in training Posts: 19

    I play guitar for 5 years and luvin' it very much :)
     
  7. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    (I just got back from a USAskills competition in Greenville and got 2nd place in technical Math) What do you mean block the trem?

    and why doesn't my last tone knob work? could it be unwired or something?(yet my guitar works) I haven't checked the wiring yet.
  8. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    I think he means lock down the tremolo bar.
    One thing that causes electrics to go out of tune rapidly, is incorrect intonation. This assumes individually movable string saddles in the bridge. The octave harmonic must fall DIRECTLY on the twelfth fret for each string. I usually try to set them with a small piece of metal, as your finger is too round and wide to be truly accurate. Sometimes a small amount of lubricant in the top nut will prevent the strings from hanging up. What was originally suggested to me was some graphite shavings from a pencil. Pretty slippery stuff that. Back in the day, graphite was the only thing you were supposed to use in lock tumblers.
  9. rev_olie TechSpot Maniac Posts: 598

    i dont know abut electrics going out of tune :D but i do know that one of the main casues is simply dirt build up on the switch pot. If the gutiar has a back plate (a piece of plastic screwed down on the back were the switch would be) unscrew that and look at the switch pot. Get some electrical cleaner and spray it on the wire the connections and the pot. Also give the wires a good tub. Dont be frightened of pulling them loose. If they come loose its been a bad connection and you will simply need to re clean the wire and re solder. Hope that helps

    [IMG]
    Thats what the pot may look like new but you will be looking at the bottom
    if the gutiar doenst have the back plate il tell you how to clean it without
  10. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    well guys I feel like an ***** because I now know what the last tone knob does... its the same as the first one but only works when the switch is in the other direction... I guess one knob for each side of the switch...
  11. rev_olie TechSpot Maniac Posts: 598

    yer for the diffeent pickups and for a different sound etc. Some have 1 for the overall tone some have none so you control if on the amp and like yours you have more than one. For example you may have one pickup selected and one tone selecter would control that. You may have 2 pickups selected meaning one control qwould control one and the other the well other etc thats how :p
  12. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    No Quotes in This Post.......

    Nick; I takes a good man to admit what you did about tone and switch thingy.

    Shameless too!:blush: :rolleyes:
  13. Ralphmex Newcomer, in training Posts: 55

    I play too!!!! im from Mexico!

    Hey i play guitar too, wish it wasnt just a hobbie...

    Cheers,

    Here´s some of my stuff, hope you like them, i did entirely myself all instruments and voices ;)


    www.myspace.com/cientosdeesclavos



    Ralphmex
  14. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    um... Thank you. :haha:
  15. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    One other small question... When I play the 12th fret (around here) I hear like a rattling sound from the string... Could it be vibrating against the other frets(the metal parts) It doesn't seem to affect the sound coming out of the amp but I find it a little annoying from the guitar. Should I just Raise up the strings a little or.... Because the strings are really low where it almost takes no effort at all to press on them.
  16. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    Push....A little harder.....

    Sometimes a fret may be high or low in reference to the frets around it, which will cause buzzing. This gets solved by filing the individual fret down.

    >>>>DON'T <<<< try this a home kids. If you don't know what you're doing you can do more harm than good! Really DON'T!

    A guitar's neck actually needs a bit of "warp" in it to work properly. This is determined by fretting the strings at the first and twelfth fret then measuring the clearance under the fifth fret, where there should be a few thousandths of a inch clearance. (actual number depends on the type of guitar). Lack of that clearance will cause buzz at the lower frets

    You can get buzz from too low an action, too light a gauge of strings or a combination of the two. Some players actually change instruments based on whether they're playing rhythm or lead, the lighter gauge being used for lead, so you can more easily bend them. Light strings can cause tuning problems, and personally I like to use a "medium" string set, which goes from .046 low E to .010 high E. I'm really not much of a lead player though

    Electric guitars can buzz a bit, as long as you don't hear it through the amp you're gold. Too low an action though, will cause a lack of string "control" with the excess looseness allowing a sort of muddiness in the bass especially.

    Hope that helps.
  17. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    This helps me understand some, I use Ultra light strings... I believe. I was thinking it was because I lowered the strings buy unscrewing those pieces on the bridge. so If I were to raise them a little and re-tune it then it would stop.
  18. rev_olie TechSpot Maniac Posts: 598

    Yer it sounds like you have the biggest combination of fret buzzing ingredients ever. Firstly the extra light strings....uuurg...its good at the moment to use these to help you fingers adjust to the playing but at some point you will need to look at maybe guage 10 strings to get a more rich sound like Sabbath etc and that will help solve the rattle. Also if you play with the same guage strings for a long time and then change them it will waerp the guitar neck so change sooner rather than later. Also it sounds like you have lowered the string hight. It can be tricky to put it back better. What you have to do it do it string by string and tune by fretting at the 12th fret and then tuning it by changing the screws tightness. Eg if it was sharp to too tense you would slacken the sting and vice versa.
    Take a look here:
    http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/action.htm

    It depend whether you haver lowered the bridge or individual strings. Also maybe due to the age some truss rod adjustment may be nesesarry if the buzz cannot be solved at the bridge but that is an area for experts only!!

    btw what make of strings are you using? just wondering
    also well done on the maths didnt say last time :D i personally cannot stand the subject just confuses me :S but obviousley you get it lol
  19. Nick Lee Newcomer, in training Posts: 151

    That actually does help a lot. And Thank You. I cant measure 2 or 3/64 of a inch but I can raise them hair by hair until the rattling stops, I raised them all a long time ago... I don't even know what the trust rod(s) are.
    Edit: It works I moved all the string from 1 1/2 to 2 full allan-wrench revolution. It sounds better like no rattling, louder ?, and.... I think that is all.
  20. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,946   +355

    >>> Truss<<< rods (not) "trust" rods, and they run through the neck to set the bend in the neck which I described in my earlier post. The adjustment for the truss rods is under the little plate on the headstock.

    It isn't any hard and fixed rule that using the same guage strings will warp a neck. They used to say to tune the guitar down when your not using it, but that just cycles stress and relief which isn't any good either.

    Just put the guitar in a quality case while you're not using it. By quality, I mean one of the insulated plastic cases that prevent sudden changes of temperature and humidity.

    I would argue against really thin string sets, since guitar playing is a physical activity. It's a good idea to play an accoustic instrument from time to time.It builds muscles and stamina in those muscles. Electrics with hair thin strings don't do this. Sort of like swinging two bats before going to the plate.

    I would also further argue that if you can go on about how good you are at math, it really shouldn't be that dificult to learn to measure 3/32 of an inch or whatever.