Hello greatman. I'd say the first system would be just below average because of the low amount of ram although it is still a decent system. System 2 I'd say would be a bit above average because of the amount of ram but not a lot above average because of the video card. Reasonable system though. Regards, Korrupt EDIT: Also, congratulations on your engagement Daveo and I wish all the best to you and your Fiance.