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The company battled it out against the ATI Radeon HD 4800 series for a while, but long story short, last September ATI was already shipping brand new parts that were faster and more efficient, while Nvidia wasn't giving out any specific details on Fermi. These new Radeons became the first products to steal the performance crown away from Nvidia in a long time, and they did so in a very convincing fashion.
Nvidia's new Fermi architecture is debuting with the GeForce GTX 480 and GeForce GTX 470 graphics cards. Designed to be the next evolution in GPU computing, we are excited to see what these new boards are capable of, and whether or not they'll be able to bring Nvidia back into the spotlight.
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A HA HA HA HA HA
Years of untrust , PR ... , bribery, false advertising and lying is all payinb back now , nvidia has been officially defeated , i ****ing love to write these words on a sunny morning.
I do know what's the idea behing , I do not need the top card and the top fps , that 10% that costed like 100$ more , I know both sides well , now we can all laugh back to those who were like nvidia's slaves. And the last one laughs the most
It's not about fanboys here but I must mention it , fanboys are just noobs knowing one part of the story and only the false "good" side of it. Fanboys can be for everything , but there are definitely more of them at Nvidia , where the false advertising and corruption makes 50% of sales.
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T77 said:
this card wasn't worth the wait. 65C at idle is too much! other cards were ranging around 40C-50C at idle.performance too wasn't great,but that would probably be sorted out by the new drivers,but i don't think there is going to be any improvement in power consumption and those temperatures.
for the first time i think amd is the way to go.
with this card people would have to bear the additional cost of a PSU and a separate cooling solution.
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I just love seeing Nvidia fail.
Ever since they sold me their faulty 8800, I've always bought Radeon cards.
I bet these cards will have a lifespan of 1 year max. I mean, 100C temperature and 500W under full load!
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Well all i can say is ''very dissapointing''. I have been an nvidia fan since i built my first pc and i have always stayed with them. Looking at their latest release my heart sinks, the king of graphics is most defenitly dead, Long live the new king AMD/ATI.
To buy a card with a price/power comp/temps like this is quite frankly loony!! How the hell do nvidia expect us to even consider putting a card like that in our machines in times like these, especially when there is an ATI card performing at about 10% worse the is 20% cheaper and that is without the electricity bill savings added on. I know with nvidia tessellation this card will go from strength to strength but thats only if games support it and i am sure ATI will release their own version. Just one comment- imagine running 2 of these? you would need a 1kw of power!
I suppose i better get out there and start looking for my first AMD/ATI crossfire motherboard.
Sorry nvidia but today you have lost a very loyal fan and you have dissopinted me greatly with your compete lack of thinking and considiration gone into developing this late underpowered gpu. Rant over
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Puiu said:
I don't want something that forces me to buy a big power supply and an really good cooling system.
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Wow!!!!!! It's the fastest single GPU card on the planet. And it's a toaster oven and space heater too.
I wonder if it will qualify for exemptions under the forthcoming "cap and trade" regulations.
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LOL! that was disappointing, I do believe the archutecture of this card is impressive but the power consumption is too much and the heat is boil water Level. if they could come up with a heat sink that came out the computer and could put a kettle on then it becomes more useful.
I'm still going to wait as my monitor is only capable of 1440x900 so my GTX 260 does this fine.
Nvidia, I have been a loyal fan since the 7600GT but today. you have dissapointed me greatly.
Unless you bring out an updated version taking less power then I will not buy one. as simple as that.
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On the upside of things.
Lets try to stay positive here people.
well at least it gets hot enough to fix itself!
[link]
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I suppose these cards would be workable with a watercooling set up to bring the temperatures down, but you still can't excuse the power draw. Its just like sticking a big V8 in a car. You get a lot of horsepower, but you get bad gas mileage.
But as other posters said, I wonder what the longevity of these cards is going to be. To further draw the analogy, its like a turbocharger on a big engine, you get good performance but shorter life.
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Not quite the ATI giant-killer people were hoping for. Fortunately I'm not doing my next GPU upgrade until next spring and who knows what kind of driver/hardware tweaking both ATI and nVidia will have accomplished by then. BUT...it's a pretty safe bet that the dust will have settled and there will be an obvious choice for me.
Thanks for the review! Yours is the first I've seen on these new cards....
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I'm guessing Nvidia has this card heavily overclocked also. I also would bet it has no ability to overclock anymore with those kind of temperatures.
One person mentioned Nvidia has no drivers out for it. Well then, how do you think they tested the card with no drivers? It wouldn't even run on the computer with no drivers for a new card.
ATI for a long time has been ahead of Nvidia when it comes to using newer technology. And seeing that Nvidia is having problems producing their cards, you can expect jacked up prices far worse than ATI cards (but thats not a surprise, they have always been that way).
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Nvidia have really failed this time round.
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red1776 said:
Lets try to stay positive here people.
well at least it gets hot enough to fix itself!
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My notebook which has an Nvidia card in it, has that same screen shown in that pictures (of the link). I guess I have nvidia to thank for ruining my notebook.
¼ of a hotdog said:
I hope they are still considered close enough to cause a price war. If they aren't I guess I will be stuck with a lower mid end card or upper low end card... I blame Elvis Presley!!!
Still waiting for 2nd generation DX11 cards... (sigh)
Quoting Wikipedia:
"Enrico Fermi (29/09/1901 - 28/11/1954) was an Italian physicist, particularly remembered for his work on the development of the first nuclear reactor..."
Does this answer your question?
Well based on the power/temperature analysis, we can probably call them mini reactors?
Not that I could ever afford to spend more that $250 on a GPU, but I am a little underwhelmed by this. I'm curious to see how the upper mainstream cards fare. I've always used Nvidia cards, back to my GeForce 2 MX!
One thought:A HA HA HA HA HA
Years of untrust , PR ... , bribery, false advertising and lying is all payinb back now , nvidia has been officially defeated , i ****ing love to write these words on a sunny morning.
I do know what's the idea behing , I do not need the top card and the top fps , that 10% that costed like 100$ more , I know both sides well , now we can all laugh back to those who were like nvidia's slaves. And the last one laughs the most
It's not about fanboys here but I must mention it , fanboys are just noobs knowing one part of the story and only the false "good" side of it. Fanboys can be for everything , but there are definitely more of them at Nvidia , where the false advertising and corruption makes 50% of sales.
While AMD has such sterling flagbearers, I think it's safe to assume that Intel and nVidia (and probably Matrox and VIA for that matter) will always have a following.
Tekkaraiden said:
Pretty impressive results, but wow I though my original 4850 ran hot.
i will be sticking with the 5870 as my next video card... GTX480 is beast but not worth the extra $$
Good, I'm sticking with the 5850 for my next upgrade.
@Jos
Having gone through these comments; and your review, wouldn't it be good idea to add a TCO component to your reviews? Especially to high end/upper mainstream stuff you test, I mean you guys already do all the hard work to generate such data, you just need to massage it to get the information for a specific period of time. I guess, would add an interesting dimension to the debate as well.
"Enrico Fermi (29/09/1901 - 28/11/1954) was an Italian physicist, particularly remembered for his work on the development of the first nuclear reactor..."
Great quote, Guest. Made my day.
BTW, people, I'm sure that once the graphics card makers start giving us some custom coolers things will be better on the heat front. Maybe even a little better on the power front, but I don't think they can do a lot there.
MY 5850 Xfire i got n preorder for 269 each XFX card is not impressed!!!From my standpoint!!!I have faster,leaner,nore efficient setup for say 50 bucks more.I know due to the current price of the 5850 it might not be a good point but im so glad i took the risk and preordered these. I upgraded from a gtx260 core 216 sli, but before that i had been ATI since the first radeon!!
wait, that is all correct except one thing, it is a half year late, remember? but it doesn't matter if it is, remember, the games for DX11 hasn't come out yet, so I don't see the reactions of people saying that it is very bad for them to be late, if the supposed games came out. I do agree though, is why it isn't faster than the HD5870 since they took long to do it, but then again don't expect what you expect, that is not a healthy thing, at least on competetion. But I think I know the reason why it isn't faster than it is supposed to be, the cores is 480 of course thats one, the other is they put raytracing, and other nonsense for it that people don't need right now at least games. Now if at least 15 games supporting the card came out, I'd definately agree that people waited for nothing, but of course there are different people, and I think they can afford that card anyways. Just wish nvidia started on it since day 1, since it doesn't look like they did.
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