GeoHot to challenge Sony's TRO in PS3 hacking lawsuit

By on February 1, 2011, 1:54 PM
Stewart Kellar, the lawyer representing George Hotz, also known as GeoHot, said he would challenge San Francisco District Court Judge Susan Illston's court order for his client to hand over his computers to Sony next week. The Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) was given to stop GeoHot from putting information on the Web about his PlayStation 3 hack.

"The information sought at issue is less than 100 kilobytes of data. Mr. Hotz has terabytes of storage devices," Kellar told Wired. "Impounding his computers, it's like starting a forest fire to cut down a single tree." GeoHot has already removed the code from his website and YouTube, but Kellar will petition Illston to reconsider other parts of the TRO, specifically regarding giving Sony his equipment and retrieving every instance of his code. "Mr. Hotz can't retrieve the Internet," Kellar said.

Sony has specifically requested that the 21-year-old surrender "any and all computer hardware and peripherals containing circumvention devices, technologies, programs, parts thereof, or other unlawful material, including but not limited to code and software, hard disc drives, computer software, inventory of CD-ROMS, computer diskettes, or other material containing circumvention devices, technologies, programs, parts thereof, or other unlawful material." Illston ruled that the defendant "shall retrieve" code "which he has previously delivered or communicated."

Sony's legal attacks against the hackers that released the PlayStation 3 root key and custom firmware began last month. Sony is targeting 100 members of the fail0verflow hacker collective who found security codes for the PS3, as well as GeoHot who independently found and published the PS3 root key.





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madboyv1, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Isn't that how Alfred from Batman: The Dark Knight caught the Jewel Thief in South America? =p

The metaphor is a good one, but the problem with digital data is its portability and concealability, so I don't really think Hotz and his lawyer is gonna get too far, but IANAL so....

ramonsterns said:

I can't wait for Sony to think I'm hacking one of their products so they can confiscate all of my electronics!

Guest said:

Classic Big Company vs Individual, where's the 2nd Amendment in this? or Freedom to publish what you want. GeoHot listed that he does not condone using the serial keys for piracy or unlocking of games for use on Sony's PS3, IMO, Sony is really carving a bad name for themselves if they are going to push forward with more legal action on this issue.

All this does is make GeoHot the good guy, and Sony the horrible, freedomless bad guy...

Mizzou Mizzou said:

Rather odd how District Court Judge Susan Illston went from ruling that her court had no jurisdiction in this case to issuing this restraining order. Also, Sony is not clear in their demands that the equipment to be handed over is specific to the PS3 Root Key hack ... instead they issue a non-specific generic list (all things unlawful) that could include personal information or items that are none of Sony's business.

yRaz yRaz said:

This is pointless, it's too late for sony. I hope this guy gets away with it, but I have a feeling he is going to lose.

I'm a bit paranoid about my information so all the sensitive stuff stays on a bootable linux jumpdrive. I have a few old machines around so I took the HDD out of an old athlon Xp system to use with it.

TomSEA TomSEA, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

"or Freedom to publish what you want."

So what if I publish that you're a pedophile? You good with that? Of course not - that's called slander.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. This guy took a piece of copyrighted bit of hardware, hacked the firmware so it could be modified by anyone for the sole purpose of being able to used modified (make that pirated) software on it and released it into the Internet for every PS3 user to modify their machine should they choose. Guess what? That's a violation of copyright laws. Doesn't make any difference if it's Sony, GM or Kellogg's. They're going to have a problem with you modifying their copyrighted products and will take measures to stop it.

This lawsuit will go nowhere. It's just a weak at best effort at slowing down the legal attempts by Sony.

gwailo247, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

I thought San Francisco was a sanctuary city?

princeton princeton said:

TomSEA said:

"or Freedom to publish what you want."

So what if I publish that you're a pedophile? You good with that? Of course not - that's called slander.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. This guy took a piece of copyrighted bit of hardware, hacked the firmware so it could be modified by anyone for the sole purpose of being able to used modified (make that pirated) software on it and released it into the Internet for every PS3 user to modify their machine should they choose. Guess what? That's a violation of copyright laws. Doesn't make any difference if it's Sony, GM or Kellogg's. They're going to have a problem with you modifying their copyrighted products and will take measures to stop it.

This lawsuit will go nowhere. It's just a weak at best effort at slowing down the legal attempts by Sony.

Publishing that someone is a pedophile isn't slander if it's correct. We already have a national child offender database for people to check if they want.

I don't disagree with anything else you said. Just throwing that out.

TomSEA TomSEA, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

"Publishing that someone is a pedophile isn't slander if it's correct. We already have a national child offender database for people to check if they want."

That be true.

Guest said:

**** playstation and all the people against geohot...leave him alone...they trying to stop him and their new firmware is already hacked...dumb asses...they cant accept that there are people smarter than they are.

Guest said:

Why did she change from "no jurisdiction"? - Money talks...

Leeky Leeky said:

Why did she change from "no jurisdiction"? - Money talks...

So your suggesting the District Judge has changed her mind because she has been paid off by Sony? Because I fail to see how a multi-billion dollar corporation can financially encourage any legal system in the USA. If they're anything like UK Judges they won't need money anyway, they earn stack loads of it!

Isn't that comment an offence under U.S. Law in itself??

Guest said:

If I made a key that opened the front door to your house, then gave a copy of that key to everyone on your street, would you be ok wid dat?

If I saw you enter your pin code at the local ATM and posted it to all your FB friends, would you be ok wid dat?

Zup

Guest said:

Geohot is too smart for Sony!

This is whey there taking away all of his equipment, why not get someone as smart as geohot working for a multimillion pound business like this, technology could go beyond the human eye!

Guest said:

Hope he gets away with it, Sony just makes things worse with stupid "updates" anyways. I find it funny that one person can do wonders than the damn company itself.

aj_the_kidd said:

Guest said:

If I made a key that opened the front door to your house, then gave a copy of that key to everyone on your street, would you be ok wid dat?

If I saw you enter your pin code at the local ATM and posted it to all your FB friends, would you be ok wid dat?

Zup

IMO theres quite a big difference between a root key and a house key, just cause they both have the word key doesn't mean they are on the same level in terms of implications if used incorrectly. You can use my house key to steal everything i own but if you use the root key it gives you the ability to use the PS3 to its full extent. Again just my opinion.

Guest said:

The sole purpose of hacking the system, from GeoHot's perspective at least, was to allow custom code (i.e. homebrew) to run on the system. The hack provided by GeoHot (which in itself was derivative) did not allow users to boot pirated games. He did not distribute any copyrighted code nor did he enable piracy.

The main point here is this: Do you really own your Playstation 3? If Sony can use the law to force you not to modify your own hardware which you have obtained legally, then no, you do not own your Playstation 3. Sony owns your Playstation 3, and you have effectively rented it off them. Sony explicitly states that you are not allowed to do so under their terms and conditions, but they are effectively the terms under which you are allowed to access and use PSN and the terms under which you are entitled to have your console serviced under warranty.

Please don't put hackers and pirates in the same boat. It's an all too common misconception. Hackers are generally very intelligent people that are interested in the technology, the challenge behind hacking it, and allowing users the freedom to run what they like on those platforms. Also I suggest you read the DMCA, which explicitly states that jailbreaking "wireless telephone devices" is legal, which was decided because they did not want copyright law to simply protect a restrictive business model rather than actual copyrighted content. Jailbreaking an iPhone enables piracy as a side effect I believe, but that is generally not what it is used for. I believe that it is possible that this argument could be applied to any closed platforms.

If only Sony had kept the OtherOS feature and allowed the hackers to carry on hacking with the sole intention of having access to the RSX to enable hardware accelerated homebrew... And now look what's happened.

So what if I publish that you're a pedophile? You good with that? Of course not - that's called slander.

Freedom of speech is not absolute. This guy took a piece of copyrighted bit of hardware, hacked the firmware so it could be modified by anyone for the sole purpose of being able to used modified (make that pirated) software on it and released it into the Internet for every PS3 user to modify their machine should they choose. Guess what? That's a violation of copyright laws. Doesn't make any difference if it's Sony, GM or Kellogg's. They're going to have a problem with you modifying their copyrighted products and will take measures to stop it.

This lawsuit will go nowhere. It's just a weak at best effort at slowing down the legal attempts by Sony.

lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Guest said:

The sole purpose of hacking the system, from GeoHot's perspective at least, was to allow custom code (i.e. homebrew) to run on the system. The hack provided by GeoHot (which in itself was derivative) did not allow users to boot pirated games. He did not distribute any copyrighted code nor did he enable piracy.

The main point here is this: Do you really own your Playstation 3? If Sony can use the law to force you not to modify your own hardware which you have obtained legally, then no, you do not own your Playstation 3. Sony owns your Playstation 3, and you have effectively rented it off them. Sony explicitly states that you are not allowed to do so under their terms and conditions, but they are effectively the terms under which you are allowed to access and use PSN and the terms under which you are entitled to have your console serviced under warranty.

Please don't put hackers and pirates in the same boat. It's an all too common misconception. Hackers are generally very intelligent people that are interested in the technology, the challenge behind hacking it, and allowing users the freedom to run what they like on those platforms. Also I suggest you read the DMCA, which explicitly states that jailbreaking "wireless telephone devices" is legal, which was decided because they did not want copyright law to simply protect a restrictive business model rather than actual copyrighted content. Jailbreaking an iPhone enables piracy as a side effect I believe, but that is generally not what it is used for. I believe that it is possible that this argument could be applied to any closed platforms.

If only Sony had kept the OtherOS feature and allowed the hackers to carry on hacking with the sole intention of having access to the RSX to enable hardware accelerated homebrew... And now look what's happened.

This. So ****ing much.

Emin3nce said:

But sony will see all his porn!

Sony, that picture isn't my sister i swear.

ramonsterns said:

Guest said:

If I made a key that opened the front door to your house, then gave a copy of that key to everyone on your street, would you be ok wid dat?

If I saw you enter your pin code at the local ATM and posted it to all your FB friends, would you be ok wid dat?

Zup

How about this.

You bought a normal house (2 bathrooms and bedrooms, a living room, a kitchen, and a backyard.), suddenly, the contractors butt itched and now prevents you access to one bathroom. GeoHot just gave you the key to reopen the bathroom and possibly repaint the walls, add another window, or something like that, essentially telling the contractor he can go fork himself

Guest said:

Sony knew he was hacking they did not think it.

Guest said:

Sony you fubar this one. Leave George and all the people who like your products alone and get on with making the ps4. Take that legal money and put it into R&D. I will continue to buy sony only if I dont get sued for going on line with a hacked PS3. The best part of the hacked PS3 is the homebrew software. potential homebrew internet browsers. If sony battles this any further it wont matter if they win or lose, they loose any way. No one will buy sony if they start prosecuting their customers. Sony please read the Art of war. You lost already.

Richy2k9 said:

Emin3nce said:

But sony will see all his porn!

Sony, that picture isn't my sister i swear.

Big LOL ....

this & the post by TomSEA / Princeton are the best here :P

hello ...

SONY .. must WIN this, not because it is a big 'greedy' corporate but because anyone doing something good or bad should face the consequences ... Geohot isn't an intelligent hacker, he is one of the many intelligent programmers who preferred to hack instead of using his knowledge to do something useful for everyone, instead like a spoiled child wanting more out of something, he pushed the 'big corporate that need to make money (huh like all businesses)" to remove a feature & uses same pretext to hack the console. i'm sure the hack was already on it's way.

repeating myself here, no one really owns the technology / recipe / concept behind anything you buy. you can buy a burger from a famous fast food but you don't own the right to re-create same, the recipe is copyrighted, yet the burger will end up into you know what :P ...

you can own a car & modify it as long as you don't causes trouble to anyone else, it may enhance your experience as long as it is safe, but you don't own the right to re-brand & re-sell the car concept, you can re-sell the units you have, but it isn't same.

you own the dvd/cd/blu-ray movie or songs but you don't own the content, you have the right to use it with some pre-defined restrictions & a copy, for other use than personal backup / protection (where allowed), is just illegal!

everyone should see thing as is, stop hiding behind fake or hypocritical reasons, Geohot is just another programmer who does thing the wrong way, other as intelligent get paid to do good things, i do not agree with SONY wanting to take away all his material, yet if it prevents him to continue it's OK.

what he did isn't just crack open a system, but he made it available to others, some analogies made by some of you are clearly similar, like sharing your password & copying your keys.

his work resulted into plagued gameplay, cheaters & account thieves now running around, people stealing great games instead of paying for so, i've even seen some sellers having modded consoles & games pre-loaded, so it's not a matter of big downloads anymore, it is a real issue that needs to be addressed & as soon as possible. Geohot is an irresponsible kid, responsible in breaking havoc in gamer's life not saving us, for what. homebrew !!? no one can tell me where are the best homebrews that came off illegal way, there isn't .. open platform is great but leads to too much bad things, i don't need or want the 8-bit pixelated game i can play on my handheld on my 42" HD telly, it's just so ugly, don't want fake scanners, fart machines ...etc ... I want to play safe, enjoy my PC games & PS3 games without thinking someone can steal my account, reset my ranks & fiddle with my personal data.

we need an example, Geohot should pay for what he did & others, instead of causing trouble, if you can find security holes, go directly to the manufacturers & let them pay you good money to work for them or as a reward for finding flaws, for it doesn't mean you are much better than them, just working hard doing things opposing them.

sorry for another long post & repeating myself all the time, but it's a real pain to have kids messing around with stuffs, in the end we gamers pay for this, for in the end i doubt anything good would come out of this.

cheers!

mosu said:

In my opinion today Sony is no more a tech company .I used to like the products they made but not any more, so I don't buy Sony any more and so should you.I'll just ignore them because there's still Nintendo, Canon, Panasonic, Samsung and many many others and they are not suing us.

Guest said:

Reading all of this reminds me too much of the opening to "Hackers". The government invaiding someones freedom and taking their personal belongings because they were hacking. It's sad here in America when every day it is becoming more of a police state and more freedoms are being taken away.

Guest said:

Er, only half right. He may not condone piracy, but he has enabled it by releaseing the keys. So any PS3 piracy is his fault.

Sarcasm Sarcasm said:

Guest said:

The main point here is this: Do you really own your Playstation 3? If Sony can use the law to force you not to modify your own hardware which you have obtained legally, then no, you do not own your Playstation 3. Sony owns your Playstation 3, and you have effectively rented it off them. Sony explicitly states that you are not allowed to do so under their terms and conditions, but they are effectively the terms under which you are allowed to access and use PSN and the terms under which you are entitled to have your console serviced under warranty.

You do own your PS3, but making a business lose millions of dollars due to stealing is the issue. People always bundle corporations as evil heartless money hungry entities, but you know these companies employ thousands of people with jobs?

Guest said:

You do own your PS3, but making a business lose millions of dollars due to stealing is the issue. People always bundle corporations as evil heartless money hungry entities, but you know these companies employ thousands of people with jobs?

OP here. Yes I understand this, and no I don't agree with piracy. But I also believe that people should have the freedom to do what they want with their own property. There are ways of dealing with hackers and there are ways of dealing with pirates:

This is why the OtherOS feature worked so well. It granted developers some freedom on the PS3. Rather than try to really strictly control exactly how their system was used, they threw interested developers a bone by allowing them to develop for the PS3 in Linux. They didn't allow the users to program for the RSX, however, so hacks were attempted to bypass this. All it would really allow was hardware accelerated homebrew, but for some reason Sony didn't like this much, so they removed the OtherOS feature completely and the hackers wanted it back. The way to do that? Either downgrade the firmware (which starts to get old after a few updates) OR completely open the system. My main point here is that the easiest way to control something can be to encourage or allow it in small amounts, rather than using brute force to repress, because ultimately that can backfire.

Ways of dealing with pirates? Find the distributors, sue THEM instead. Simples.

Microsoft has recently been taking an interesting approach to jailbreakers by embracing their ability to do what they do and attempting to understand why they do it. There seems to be some kind of mutual respect developing between Microsoft and the jailbreaking community, and I think this is a good approach. If you allow certain things to a degree, it makes them easy to control. If you put up a brick wall and refuse to deal with the people without using a lawyer and some legal threats, it forces the efforts underground making it harder to control and difficult to predict.

I understand why Sony is annoyed about this as it could be pretty damaging to them. But they are taking the wrong approach and seem to be digging themselves into deeper and deeper holes.

Guest said:

Georgie played with fire and now hes getting burned.......

Guest said:

Eh, I just googled for the GeoHot Homebrew Code..

Found about...900+ Websites that have it, are distributing it and making apps for it.

900 Turns to 1800... 1800 turns to 3600. Then When sony wins and GeoHot Losses. 3600 Turns into 360,000.

In two years, Another GeoHot Will Emerge, And If a PS4 is released by then, that will be Homebrewed as well.

I'm pretty sure a law is about to emerge stating that you're legally entitled to jailbreak your console. We just need more cases like this to pop up.

GeoHot's Not the example, he's the Solution. How to mass market the GeoHot Homebrew code?

Sue him.

Now sony is going to have to sue 360,000 People, Just to get the code. but they better do it soon, Because it'll reach a million before the end of the week.

Just sayin'

grvalderrama said:

this guy is a freakin genius

Guest said:

So your suggesting the District Judge has changed her mind because she has been paid off by Sony? Because I fail to see how a multi-billion dollar corporation can financially encourage any legal system in the USA.

They're called lobbyists. People who are given (not paid) ridiculous amounts of money for the **purpose** of "influencing" politicians on behalf of a business or corporation.

Guest said:

Hay I could tell you all I think your cool and do not condone fawl langauge. Would you beleive that too? Na did not think so

Tanstar said:

Leeky said:

Why did she change from "no jurisdiction"? - Money talks...

So your suggesting the District Judge has changed her mind because she has been paid off by Sony? Because I fail to see how a multi-billion dollar corporation can financially encourage any legal system in the USA. If they're anything like UK Judges they won't need money anyway, they earn stack loads of it!

Isn't that comment an offence under U.S. Law in itself??

Is suggesting that a judge might have been bribed illegal under U.S. law? No. We're allowed to badmouth and question our government. In the U.S. some judges make good money and some don't make much. This judge probably makes very good money, but plenty of people making good money are greedy and always want more, so that doesn't mean she didn't take a bribe. More than likely, Sony used it's influence to pressure her into making a ruling in their favor.

She either had enough jurisdiction to rule in the first case or she has no jurisdiction now. Can't have it both ways.

Leeky Leeky said:

I would have thought that those comments bordered on slander, without proof.

I do agree though, either she did to begin with, or doesn't at all.

Guest said:

big ups to geohot

the man is a champion.

I bought my ps3

it's MINE

if i brick it it's still mine

if i mod it and make it better why does it give sony the right to take it back?

to the people calling for geohots head i hope the recording companies come and takes all your stuff away for all the pirated songs you have on your ipod

so continue to live in fear of someone breaking into your sacred gaming account and downgrading you from a level 5 elf lord to a maggot

hahaha

keep living in your virtual world

Guest said:

If you want to figure out the root code and design your own homebrew for your own system thats fine. Posting it on the internet is not fine. Its that simple. I hope he gets the book.

Guest said:

If I made a key that opened the front door to your house, then gave a copy of that key to everyone on your street, would you be ok wid dat?

At least say it right..... If I purchased a locked door that several other people have as well, and if by examining the lock I can fabricate a key that helps all these other people get their doors open then wouldn't that be okay? You leave out the important factor of who paid for and owns the locked door. Perhaps sony should be renting these devices like cable boxes if they want total control. Also you are making a copy of someones key George/F0 fabricated one from a faulty lock, not by copying someone elses work.

Guest said:

Sony marketing department are really stupid. They have just to wait and see how are their sales going up because thanks to geohot PS3 is a new system now on. I own xbox360 and now i am thinking of buying a PS3 thanks to GeoHot. Wake up Sony.

Guest said:

"GeoHot listed that he does not condone using the serial keys for piracy or unlocking of games for use on Sony's PS3" .... then what exactly would he have people use them for?? the ONLY things those keys are good for are piracy or unlocking of games and thats it. everyone who is anyone is the IT world knows this. i am not agreeing with any side here. however, i will say that if you bought the system it is yours to do what you like. if you want to hack the SYSTEM then go for it, install homebrew and play the freeware until your eyes bleed. if you want to root your phone...go for it, etc. its when that info is used to steal the games and software it becomes an issue. many people never think how it really is no different from walking into a department store and shoving an item in your pocket. the same people who make and sell those items and rely on it for their income are no different from the employees who write and code the games. sony, like any other company, basically HAS to prosecute these people, otherwise, everyone would simply download everything, if there were no consequences to pirating the games, no one would ever pay for them! its simple economic policy. i'm sure i will get "nerd flamed" for this one but o well...will he get what he would deserve had he been a simple shoplifter or common thief that he actually is?? probably not...he will probably get off....do i feel sorry for him if he doesn't? nah

Guest said:

im sorry ricky, but i see you as very wrong. if i work for my money. and i buy something i own it to do with what i will. unless im using it to intentionally cause harm to someone else its none of their business. just like what i do with my body is my own business unless i use my fist to break someones nose. just putting that into perspective. its RELATIVELY (not completely) easy to fix this problem. add some kind of registry into the firmware so that every ps3 is scanned upon connection to the psn. that way there are no hackers in psn, but they can do whatever they want to the system as long as it is only affecting them. if they cant go online from it then they cant harm anyone with it.. unless of course they throw it through a window and hit someone.

Jake

Guest said:

This hotz guy is a criminal! Burn his *** and get rid of him!

Guest said:

the ONLY things those keys are good for are piracy or unlocking of games and thats it. everyone who is anyone is the IT world knows this.

Actually, the keys allow you to pretty much anything provided you know what to do with them, they're not directly related to piracy but can be exploited to enable it.

Geohot's hack did not enable piracy, he used the keys to allow his custom firmware to boot custom code. Homebrew can be absolutely fantastic once a community is big enough. I had a hacked Xbox and it was a brilliant media player.

Ever heard of XBMC? How do you think that came about?

Guest said:

Is it me or is Sony getting people to *astroturf* here?

Or is everyone commenting against Geohot really *that* uninformed?

You may know that kitchen knives can be used to kill people (and I REALLY hope it's not by experience). So does that mean that the kitchen knife manufacturer is a criminal? No.

"the ONLY things those keys are good for are piracy or unlocking of games and thats it." NO. BIG NO. A half truth is a whole lie. I strongly believe that this was NOT Geohot's intention. Ever heard of PSL1GHT? I admit that I only just found out about that today.

Some people like myself are programmers, and while I do not own a PS3, I do like to program stuff. If there is some artificial restriction, I get somewhat titchy, because I like to see how far I can push a system.

Not all games (or programs full stop) people make must be paid for. A lot are released by their authors free of charge, and a lot of these are released with the full source code (seriously, look up what "source code" is), almost always permitting you to modify it (usually requiring you to release your modified source code if you want to redistribute your modifications, something called a "copyleft").

Some software is even in the public domain, which means there is no restriction on what you can do with it (within the boundaries of the law, of course) - some of my software is PD'd, one such program is it2vgm, which can be and has been (my LudumDare 19 entry, "Cardiac Arrest", for instance) used for making music for the Sega Master System.

Sony's best move is to back off. Attempting to restrict homebrew development is just going to do serious damage to their image, and now that the files are out there due to a Streissand Effect (and I just downloaded them a short while ago), they actually can't stop it -- the best they can do is a bunch of FUD.

Pirates will pirate, and if they can't get it to run on the PS3, they might manage to port it to the PC instead (yes I *know* that's tricky but there's "bootlegs" of the *Mega Drive* version of Sonic the Hedgehog ported to the NES), so flaming Geohot is not going to stop piracy.

Nobody needs to burn here, but a few of you need buckets of icy cold water thrown over your heads.

Guest said:

Nintendo was also the big bad suer in 2 generations prior. They still are btw jsut search nintendo and sues.

Guest said:

i buy sony products legally. yet, still sony owned my sony products. unfair to me. why not sony give their products for free. i buy, still they own it. i buy, still they own it. bad sony...

i dont buy sony.

Guest said:

sony no good programmers. if they dont want ps3 to be hacked, improved your programming. hire good programmers better than geohot. ha ha ha. sony programmers are just getting fat from salary taken from sony.. sony programmers forgot digital security.... sony fired your programmers...

sony you lose.

Guest said:

sony forgot their origins... they begin as homebrew sort of... sony pls look back at your beginnings...

sony greedy... homebrew evolved. sony suppressed free thinking. sony pls put hard lock on your products to avoid hacking... your hard lock be free... or else i buy sony products plus hard lock... hahaha... down with sony.

Guest said:

to richy2k9:

you one sided guy... i buy a car, i modify.. you think what? you share your modification to your peers. you think what? will the car company sue me too...

geohot buys ps3, modified it. shared it. you think what?

you know what is wrong? sony not good in digital security. better tell sony to hire geohot or better than geohot.

i buy a product, i own it. its my decision to broke the code inside the product to improve it further.

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