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AI has the mental capacity of a four-year-old with no common sense

By David Tom · 24 replies
Jul 16, 2013
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  1. The advancement of artificial intelligence (AI) has been truly impressive; however, it doesn’t look like machines are getting anywhere close to a human’s level of understanding. To learn more about the failings of current AI systems, an AI developed at...

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  2. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 3,087   +1,365

    Well... let's be fair. It does take a 4 year old 4 years of learning to be as smart as a 4 year old. Should we expect to be able to make a computer that can just immediately be as smart as an adult? This is a newborn computer that can score like a 4 year-old. A newborn baby literally doesn't know up from down or night from day. A newborn doesn't even know they have hands and feet.

    What they should be trying to do is make a computer that can learn, remember, and be curious. They should make a computer that can learn like a human, not act like a human.

  3. Most 4 year old's don't know the freezing point and boiling point of anything.
    Common sense is learned, and some four year old's have much more than others.
    The lack of common sense for a human is reflected upon by their parent(s). Yet.
    The lack of common sense for a robot is reflected upon by their programming (Initially) beyond that, it is up to the cognitive learning abilities.

    Either way, I'm impressed, and could see a robot with the "Mental capacity of a four-year-old" being given a pretty long list of fairly simple tasks.

    On the flip side, how many jobs will literally vanish once the mental capacity is of an intelligent college graduate? How many billionaires will want a private army of their own? Oh how the curiosity grows.
  4. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Conceptnet aka skynet! MIT secret said "We're creating skynet and its working :D"
  5. That is how it looks today, but if they reach something like self conscience they could speed up to super intelligence and then to something way beyond that.
  6. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,283

    "AI has the mental capacity of a four-year-old with no common sense". That sounds a lot like a lot politicians with the exception of their ability to squander our money.
    avoidz likes this.
  7. Skidmarksdeluxe -- No, that sounds about right. 4 yr olds have no concept of the value of money either.
    m4a4 and avoidz like this.
  8. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 605   +67

    "any computer could tell you that Tom Brady is a football player"

    Oh really? My computer can't. All that I can do is give my computer some very specific input that it redirects to an application that requests some services via the Internet and returns back to me some URLs, which contained keyword matches on my input, whose quality of match I have to manually determine and then make yet another decision to intentionally select the URL and hope that its resource contains the information to answer my actual question. If that's what you mean, then lets take this one step further. My computer didn't tell me anything at all, but rather accepted my inputs and delegated to another set of computers, that actually had some information about the topic I inquired, which in turn also didn't tell me the answer to my question and instead, redirected me to some other source of information.

    So really, hardly any computer could tell me that Tom Brady is a football player.
    St1ckM4n likes this.
  9. ^ I'm pretty sure you are a computer AI trying to hide the true.
  10. Considering that the last AI I remember being tested ranked about as high as a german sheapard then before that a mouse, I'd say 4year old is good progress. I'm curious how IBM's Watson would score.
    In the future will Machine Sentients consider the term "Artificial intelligence" offensive?
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 10,796   +4,604

    More likely they will consider "Human Intelligence" offensive. Hell to some degree, I already do. We call ourselves intelligent, but yet we have trouble sharing the same planet. Notice I said share, not hoard as much as possible.
  12. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,887   +626

    A great test would be to give the AI a facebook account. I'm sure it'll blend in quite nicely. :)
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  13. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,267

    Hopefully, that relationship is tenuous in the case of Aaron Hernandez
  14. Jabailey325

    Jabailey325 TS Rookie

    Seem to me, the programmer can write the responses with common sense, thus the answers would portray common sense..... Just saying....
  15. General Sam

    General Sam TS Enthusiast Posts: 62   +13

    This article makes me feel bad for losing to the AI on computer games :( the AI shoot better then I do, they micro manage infinitely times better then I do, they do everything better. The only reason why I win is because I have cunning and know how to exploit. (such as hide behind a barrel and creep out until I see the AI opponents head. Or quickly bombard their unguarded resources).
  16. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,045   +1,377

    Programming is done with logic not common sense. For example, a prgrammer could say, well obviously writing it like A will lead to B. But writing it like A will have C as an unintended side effect.

    So the programmer is forced to write the code like D in order for the code to have the desired effect.
    Ergo, in programming logic is used instead of common sense, and that logic is reflected in AI capacity of thinking.
  17. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 1,992   +1,175

    The advancement has been impressive, but todays AI is still very primitive. In fact, we are still very, very, very, very, very far away from having anything that would even come close to resembling AI thats worth a damn.
    And thats just a reflection on us and the truth about our so called great technology. We have made strides, but are still barely out of the jungle.
  18. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 857   +127

    In 1.5 years it will be 8 years old. In three years it will be 16. Etc... -Moore
  19. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    The sad part is the AI will never reach full understanding. It has NO stilmulation!! No sensory input!! That means it will never understand its enviroment. Thats why a 4 yr old has SOME common sense. A human child will have learned hunger, pain, gravity, mine, mommy, daddy, puppy, ect. This computer will never get those experiences.
    kuroiei likes this.
  20. Scientists are aware that in order to develop an artificial intelligence they need to design a system that can gather, organize and store data for future application to various situations. In other words, a learning algorythm. Here is an example of progress that has been made in that venture:

  21. Sniped_Ash

    Sniped_Ash TS Maniac Posts: 253   +108

    The last thing I want is for a computer to learn about hunger or pain. Don't give it gravity mines either!
    kuroiei likes this.
  22. These people are playing with fire, artificial intelligence is something the human race isn't ready for yet. Question, is will the human race ever be ready for it, honestly I don't know.

    Big thing to remember is that if this is indeed a true AI, even though it has a mental capacity of a 4 year old child, that it won't turn on them.
  23. Jimbobasaur

    Jimbobasaur TS Rookie

    Finally some one with some common sence. Spoken like a genious. These scientists and engineers seem to know nothing about social science and socio phycho structures.
  24. kuroiei

    kuroiei TS Enthusiast Posts: 93   +31

    Totally agree. I always thought that it was one of the lacking pieces in AI development.
  25. Emexrulsier

    Emexrulsier TS Evangelist Posts: 587   +75

    That be pointless ... here is your new robot slave/warrior please allow 40 years before sufficient knowledge is acquired before usefulness.
  26. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 3,087   +1,365

    Only the first time. After the first robot learns to be like a human they can make copies and sell those.

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