AMD 5nm 96-core 'Genoa' Zen 4 CPU arriving in 2022, 128-core 'Bergamo' lands early 2023

wiyosaya

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It seems there is more to be had than the article tells us. There are also what sounds like impressinve improvements slated for the Infinity Fabric https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-infinity-fabric-3

IMO, this is good news - regardless of when any of it actually hits the market. Perhaps this will spur sIntel to keep up and keep AMDs pricing in check for us enthusiasts. IMO, sIntel will not be able to rest on its hubris in the future if it expects to keep a share of any market.

AMD is competing with a vengeance not seen since introducing AMD64, IMO. I say "Keep going baby" to quote that famous NASA announcer. :)
 

wiyosaya

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They sure must be loving that massive cash infusion they got from the Saudi's back in 2008, and again in 2009, and again in 2011. I sure wish I had play money then and bought the stock also when it was 2 dollars per share.
You are not alone in wishing to have bought AMD at $2.00/share. ;)
 

Aceseven

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Feels like someone announces a new chip every morning these days.

maybe I'll buy one some day until then the trusty ol 3770k keeps toiling away.
 

Vanderlinde

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128 cores 256 threads per 1 CPU socket is "real".

I mean in a few years 512 cores with 1024 threads is the new norm. You can pack a simple 2U server with so many goodies.
 

Puiu

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It's late 2022, you will see. No AMD chips will be made on 5nm before late 2022; Not enterprise, not consumer.

Nvidia will use it before AMD, for RTX 4000 series.

Stop your amd fanboy nonsense. Reality calls. AMD don't have the funds to use 5nm before late 2022 when Apple is done with it.

TSMC 5nm is used for Apple SoCs. Has nothing to do with AMD, so why bring risk production up haha. Apple has used 5nm since iPhone 12 and first M1 and still uses the proces for iPhone 13 and M1 Pro + Max. Common knowledge.

5nm is nothing new, but AMD can't afford to use it.

Intel even secured majority of TSMC 3nm proces too, together with Apple. Both can easily afford to use the best proces.

Nvidia can probably can too, but they don't need the best node to beat AMD, as we saw with Ampere.
"Intel even secured majority of TSMC 3nm proces" - they took the 3nm production for next year, but that's just a small portion of the eventual full production line (it will go up by 10x). AMD and Apple will be fine in 2023. (especially AMD which will need 3nm only for Zen5 chips in late 2023-early 2024, Zen4D will most likely still be 5nm)
 
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gamerk2

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Lurch, bump, sway back, slump forward..... 96 cores...gulp..... 128 core .... uh.h.h..h...h

Please Mr. AAA dev, don't make a game which can use all this.

To be fair, games do use that many threads. The issue remains that only a handful will do any meaningful amount of work; most workloads don't scale linearly.
 

Yenega

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"Intel even secured majority of TSMC 3nm proces" - they took the 3nm production for next year, but that's just a small portion of the eventual full production line (it will go up by 10x). AMD and Apple will be fine in 2023. (especially AMD which will need 3nm only for Zen5 chips in late 2023-early 2024, Zen4D will most likely still be 5nm)
Ofc Apple will be fine, this is TSMC we are talking about. Apple gets priority every single time. They also share the 3nm with Intel.
 

Mr Majestyk

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So they're going BIG-BIG or little-little? No BIG-little for the time being?

Well you they just do that anyway with a dual socket SP3 board though

Zen 4 is same as Zen 3, just more cores. Zen 5 is Big.little and the little cores will be Zen 4c cores. Zen 4c should be able to beat Meteor Lake's Gracemont successors E cores.
 

zamroni111

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Quit using so much FAB usage on CPU's. There ARE people who would like a video card at retail prices.
Today GPUs need so many transistors that the profit per transistor of Ryzen is much higher than rdna2.
It goes even higher if the chiplet is packaged as epyc.
Desktop Ryzen zen4 will be a paper launch too as most chips will be made into epyc