What percentage of PC gamers who own a dedicated GPU haven’t installed steam? Id say less than 1%. But sure we don’t know. There could be millions of Radeon owners out there who just love the epic games store and hate Steam!
.Popularity of Radeon HD 8800 series proves that nobody cares about 10 year old GeForce cards but 10 year old Radeons are still used heavily. It proves that Radeon cards are useful much longer than Nvidia cards.
Everyone who knows the industry knows that the Steam survey isn't given out to every computer, so it is random luck which computers see the survey and which ones do not. I managed to get a Radeon 6800 non-XT back in February, and haven't seen a survey pop up. I upgraded from a Ryzen 7 1800X to a Ryzen 9 3900X in 2019, and don't think I've seen a survey pop up for me since I did that upgrade either.
And what about those that use the epic game store only and not stream I have a few friends already on that list they do count also. My point being the steam survery is not the be all end all of metrics.What percentage of PC gamers who own a dedicated GPU haven’t installed steam? Id say less than 1%. But sure we don’t know. There could be millions of Radeon owners out there who just love the epic games store and hate Steam!
The survey is the best we’ve got. Obviously it’s not perfect but its definitely accurate enough to get a good idea of what’s popular and what isn’t.
So, they are poor and only play games they have gotten for free from the EGS? Very few people would choose the EGS if not for the free games or games that are really cheap that show up.
You are making a very big assumption about random people you don't know. Is it really necessary to show their salaries? They are far from poor and probably make more money than everyone posting in this thread. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer buying Highend gpu's the market is large and covers many area's. Its like you guys have this tunnel vision for Steam.
Erm https://fortune.com/2007/02/15/suit-intel-paid-dell-up-to-1-billion-a-year-not-to-use-amd-chips/
Still, if ya got a billion bucks to blow, what better to spend it on?
Still, ya gotta admit, my OP really got this thread rollin', didn't it?
Honestly, I think that Microsoft is the culprit. They don't want to be making drivers for older CPUs. Ryzen 1000 had the opposite problem in that it wasn't compatible with Windows 7 or 8, only Windows 10 (which pissed me off because I like Windows 7).
Ah, for what you do, it's probably fine. High-end gaming and CPU-intensive productivity workloads are what drive CPU innovation and advancement. Hell, for general computer use, my mother still uses a Phenom II X4 940 that I gave her years ago with a Radeon HD 6450 and it's fine.
Oh yeah, an F-16 Fighting Falcon is soooooo thrifty! REAL spendthrifts who are looking for their own fighter jet get F-5s or MiG-21s.Still, if ya got a billion bucks to blow, what better to spend it on?
I'd buy a home in a gated community, and an F-16. But then, I've always been pretty much of a spendthrift.
Nobody ever said the steam survey was the “be all and end all”.
Radeon is crap that's why it's been used in the last 2 Generations of Xbox and Playstation consoles...ok
Well you know me and you know that I don't BS. I said that I don't know how accurate Steam surveys are but they're better than nothing. While I do only use AMD hardware it's because I hate Intel and nVidia not because I'm a fanboy of AMD, it's just because.... they're the only option left for someone who doesn't want blue or green in their rig. If VIA was still being sold here, I'd be checking them out too.
The consoles use different APIs to the desktop cards. And that’s where AMD fails the hardest - software support. AMD have clearly prioritised consoles over desktop cards. Game developers also neglect Radeon users on PC they represent a minority of users. Console users get better ray tracing support than Radeon desktop users. Control has better ray tracing on XSX/PS5 than it does on a 6800XT!
I would say some would likely consider you a troll just in you being a bit disingenuous by calling them "crap". The current AMD GPUs do what the bulk of people expect of them, and frequently beat Nvidia's offerings at resolutions that most people game at, for less power consumption. I think Nvidia is a crap company, that makes decent products. I just choose not to support companies that frequently and blatantly exhibit anti-consumer practices, when an alternative exists for my need. I'll never need an Apple product in my life for example. Just because AMD doesn't check all your personal boxes doesn't make them objectively "crap".
That moment when gaming cafes have literally an entire room of Nvidia GPU's. Yes this is completely all individual gamers buying and nobody else.
By the time Intel paid Dell - and pretty much all other OEM along with major retailers, benchmark providers…. to not carry / support AMD CPU, Athlon were superior to Intel‘s offerings - all the way from Pentium 3 days until the first Core series were released.Still, if ya got a billion bucks to blow, what better to spend it on?
I'd buy a home in a gated community, and an F-16. But then, I've always been pretty much of a spendthrift.
On a more realistic note, AMDs chips were trash for the better part of a decade. AMD had to wait for other companies to develop the narrow processes that would support their designs.
If you ask me, AMD's chips "unsold themselves", and Intel pissed its money away..
I notice you weren't here during the "AMD's garbage works better as a space heater", years.
You tend to skew data in a way that could almost be described as, "deranged".
I'm not sure it was me who called Radeon cards "crap", but if you want to isolate me saying that, I guess I'll have to cop to it.
