AMD could be developing a 32GB RDNA 4 GPU: possible RTX 5090 rival or enterprise only?

[midian182]

Rumor mill: Rumors have surfaced claiming that AMD is developing an RDNA 4 GPU with up to 32GB of VRAM. It sounds like an exciting prospect, potentially leading to a card that could compete with the monstrous RTX 5090. Unfortunately for gamers, it would likely be an enterprise product designed for data centers and professional applications.

Update: The leaker now claims the card will be the RX 9070 XT 32GB, priced much higher than the standard version, and will launch at the end of the second quarter. It will be primarily designed for AI, but it's still a gaming card and not a Radeon Pro.

This rumor, like many others, comes from Chiphell, the Chinese tech-focused forum, so take it with a grain of salt. It claims that AMD will launch a high-end RDNA 4 GPU sometime in the first half of 2025. The amount of VRAM it will feature has yet to be decided, but it could be as high as 32GB – the same amount as Nvidia's RTX 5090.

While a rival to the RTX 5090 from Team Red sounds like something the industry and gamers would welcome, it seems almost certain that the rumored GPU will be used as an enterprise product, which requires extra memory. The Radeon Pro W7900, for example, comes with 48GB of GDDR6, while the Instinct MI300X has 192GB of HBM3.

The other thing to remember is that AMD said last year that it would not be competing with Nvidia when it comes to the current generation of flagship gaming cards. It confirmed that releasing cards in the Radeon RX 9000 series to match Nvidia's top RTX 5000 GPU won't be a priority. Instead, Team Red will be focusing on its mid-range and lower-end products to increase the company's overall market share.

AMD unveiled the Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 GPUs at CES last month. The company did not reveal any details beyond stating that the RDNA 4 architecture is built on TSMC's 4nm node while featuring optimized compute units, improved ray tracing per CU, 'supercharged' AI compute, and better media encoding quality.

There were reports only a few hours ago that claimed AMD is set to seriously undercut Nvidia's mid-range cards with its Radeon RX 9000 series. The RX 9070 XT could arrive with a $599 MSRP, $150 less than the $749 RTX 5070 Ti, while the RX 9070 is expected to be priced below the $549 RTX 5070.

H/t: Notebookcheck

Permalink to story:

AMD could be developing a 32GB RDNA 4 GPU: possible RTX 5090 rival or enterprise only?

 

[Puiu]

It would be great for anyone who wants to run large AI models at home or render more complex 3D scenes.

 

[yRaz]

AMD is probably looking at the 5090 performance and thinking, "it wouldn't be nearly as hard to compete with that as we thought"

Also, the 5070s are expected to be in short supply, too, so the 90 series might be the best option this generation. Atleast they'll stay close to MSRP, the 50 series wont

 

[godrilla]

32 gig vram texture packs when ?

 

[mbrowne5061]

AMD is probably looking at the 5090 performance and thinking, "it wouldn't be nearly as hard to compete with that as we thought"

Also, the 5070s are expected to be in short supply, too, so the 90 series might be the best option this generation. Atleast they'll stay close to MSRP, the 50 series wont

Yeah. I think AMD seriously had no intent on competing with nVidia's 5000 generation, and was probably hoping to just slightly beat out their 4000 generation. And then nVidia whiffed their 5000 gen, and AMD might accidentally end up competing with it.

The only real question is whether AMD will price their new 9000 series cards competitively against nVidia's 5000 gen MSRP (or maybe even against actual 4000 gen pricing). If they do that, they'll have a winner with all about the most ardent nVidia fan boys.

 

[yRaz]

Yeah. I think AMD seriously had no intent on competing with nVidia's 5000 generation, and was probably hoping to just slightly beat out their 4000 generation. And then nVidia whiffed their 5000 gen, and AMD might accidentally end up competing with it.

The only real question is whether AMD will price their new 9000 series cards competitively against nVidia's 5000 gen MSRP (or maybe even against actual 4000 gen pricing). If they do that, they'll have a winner with all about the most ardent nVidia fan boys.

Well, I don't think AMD will be able to price too aggressively for a really dumb reason. The launch of the 50 series has shown us that people don't read reviews. If AMD prices their cards too low, many consumers will assume that cheaper = worse. I think AMD is trying to play the "avaliblity" card by keeping as many in stock as possible. Also, the 50 series is going to sell well above MSRP so AMD can probably match the MSRP of nVidia cards and the real market value of their cards will still be lower.

 

[ChipBoundary]

AMD is probably looking at the 5090 performance and thinking, "it wouldn't be nearly as hard to compete with that as we thought"

Also, the 5070s are expected to be in short supply, too, so the 90 series might be the best option this generation. Atleast they'll stay close to MSRP, the 50 series wont

You mean the 5090 that has an average of a 25% performance gap over the 4090? The same 4090 that AMD didn't even remotely come close to? As far as pricing goes, AMD doesn't stay anywhere near MSRP either.

Additionally, that MSRP is for FE cards, not board partners. Board partners cannot reach MSRP unless they lose their profits entirely because of the price Nvidia sells their GPU chips to them.

I love how people keep riding on AMD like they're some sort of savior when they're "ripping you off" just as bad as Nvidia ever has. With poorer performing GPU's to boot. And dealing with the catalyst software? Not worth it.

 

[yRaz]

You mean the 5090 that has an average of a 25% performance gap over the 4090? The same 4090 that AMD didn't even remotely come close to? As far as pricing goes, AMD doesn't stay anywhere near MSRP either.

Additionally, that MSRP is for FE cards, not board partners. Board partners cannot reach MSRP unless they lose their profits entirely because of the price Nvidia sells their GPU chips to them.

I love how people keep riding on AMD like they're some sort of savior when they're "ripping you off" just as bad as Nvidia ever has. With poorer performing GPU's to boot. And dealing with the catalyst software? Not worth it.

if you look at dollars per FPS, AMD actually has better performance per dollar in both raster and raytracing. nVidia has the 4090, aside from that they get beaten at literally every other price point. It's also funny how you're an apologist for their pricing. While there have always be OC versions, most stuck within $100 of MSRP. Keep in mind, Founders Editions are a relatively "new" thing. nVidia didn't make and brand their own cards. The idea that there are board partners making 5080's with an MSRP HIGHER than that of the 4090 is wild.

As for me, I card about Linux support and nVidia drivers for linux gaming are, how do you say....trash? Even if their drivers weren't trash, none of their features like DLSS or FrameGen work on linux, either. Not that I care about any of that stuff. FrameGen only really works if you're getting 60FPS or above native

 

[RaXelliX]

32 gig vram texture packs when ?

16K textures.

And dealing with the catalyst software? Not worth it.

What's wrong with it?

 

[ChipBoundary]

16K textures.

What's wrong with it?

It's a nightmare. Always has been. Random crashes, glitches, resetting of settings, etc. AND can't make software to save their life. No software is ever going to be perfect, but AMD is more trouble than it is worth.

 

[ChipBoundary]

if you look at dollars per FPS, AMD actually has better performance per dollar in both raster and raytracing. nVidia has the 4090, aside from that they get beaten at literally every other price point. It's also funny how you're an apologist for their pricing. While there have always be OC versions, most stuck within $100 of MSRP. Keep in mind, Founders Editions are a relatively "new" thing. nVidia didn't make and brand their own cards. The idea that there are board partners making 5080's with an MSRP HIGHER than that of the 4090 is wild.

As for me, I card about Linux support and nVidia drivers for linux gaming are, how do you say....trash? Even if their drivers weren't trash, none of their features like DLSS or FrameGen work on linux, either. Not that I care about any of that stuff. FrameGen only really works if you're getting 60FPS or above native

I'm not apologist for anything. Performance per dollar is a useless metric, period. All that matters is superior performance, stability, and reliability. AMD has literally never had that, ever. Prices ALWAYS go up. ALWAYS. If they don't, you're getting scammed. Nvidia has a 7.8% profit margin. AIB's are operating at a 5% or less profit margin. If you think there's a way to make price drops...show me, go ahead I'll wait.

I have ZERO love for Nvidia. They make the best product by a country mile and that is all that matters, nothing else.

Nvidia Linux drivers are trash because Linux is trash. Your love for Linux tells me everything I need to know about you and immediately invalidates any opinion you may have. I wish there were other options aside from Windows, but there aren't. The moment there is, I'll jump ship.

 

[RaXelliX]

It's a nightmare. Always has been. Random crashes, glitches, resetting of settings, etc. AND can't make software to save their life. No software is ever going to be perfect, but AMD is more trouble than it is worth.

I've not had these problems you describe. It's as stable as Nvidia's.

 

[yRaz]

I'm not apologist for anything. Performance per dollar is a useless metric, period. All that matters is superior performance, stability, and reliability. AMD has literally never had that, ever. Prices ALWAYS go up. ALWAYS. If they don't, you're getting scammed. Nvidia has a 7.8% profit margin. AIB's are operating at a 5% or less profit margin. If you think there's a way to make price drops...show me, go ahead I'll wait.

I have ZERO love for Nvidia. They make the best product by a country mile and that is all that matters, nothing else.

Nvidia Linux drivers are trash because Linux is trash. Your love for Linux tells me everything I need to know about you and immediately invalidates any opinion you may have. I wish there were other options aside from Windows, but there aren't. The moment there is, I'll jump ship.

Well that's absolutely lovely that using Linux tells you everything you need to know about me. After reviewing your post I'm confident in your assessment that we have nothing to talk about, cheers!