What's so bad about them? Im only familiar with the dumpster fire that is Nvidia's Linux drivers and was considering switching to AMD for my next build
Been on a Radeon RX580 for a few years now and no major issues for me with drivers.
What's so bad about them? Im only familiar with the dumpster fire that is Nvidia's Linux drivers and was considering switching to AMD for my next build
I don't know what you're talking about. My RX 5700 hasn't had ANY issues at all in Windows, nor in games. Just like the GTX 960 I had before.I wonder if Radeon software and drivers for Mac is as bad as the absolute ****-show that they are for Windows.
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*warning* This is going to trigger the AMD fanboys on here who just wont accept the fact that Nvidia is better for streaming.
Nvidia has the technological edge over AMD in every factor.
Well, I have an 850W PSU, so I don’t blame it for my 5700XT black screens, nor for the fact it keeps the VRAM at maximum frequency even when doing nothing on the desktop, just because I’m using a dual monitor configuration with 144 Hz refresh rate.There have been people with NAVI "issues" that eventually found out their $40 PSU (from a decade ago) was the culprit, and swapping it for a $80 more current one fixed all their woes.
There can be other causes (of iniquitous nature) at fault for your hardware troubles. If you live in (buy from) what the corporations consider to be third a world country (legislative and cultural wise, not geographical and financial) you are likely to have a substandard, rebranded, partially defective or otherwise different components (from what is advertised on the box) product.
- My 560ti was a rebranded 400 series GPU. Died 4 moths after the warranty expired, despite the fact that for the last 8-10 months of it's life the most intense work it had thrown it's way were 1080p youtube videos. In it's 3y4m life time it only received 2 working drivers, for every other driver I had driver crash & recovery one or twice an hour plus frequent game ctd's.
- The 970 I replaced it with was either a 'cut down' version or a rebranded 700 series GPU. After civil discourse with several gamers from the western world who claimed better performance from their 960 cards, I found a local with an MSI 970 Gaming 4 G bought from ebay to pit my MSI 970 Gaming 100ME bought from the biggest PC hardware retail shop in the country and benchmark-ed the most performance heavy title this guy had in his library (GR Wildlands). Same computer, both GPU's of the same maker with identical specs.., and lo and behold, my 970 was 12% slower than his. Mine also had a bios voltage hard cap 75mv lower than his.
- My sister's 730 was running loudly at ~80% while playing youtube videos. I decided to investigate and found it was just a rebranded 705 (which is a rebranded 520). The latest driver that can be installed for it is also the last driver that supports 705 GPUs.
These are just GPU related woes, from products bought from this country. I have plenty other with monitors, CPU's and non PC products.
I also have issues with my reference 5700 (non xt). Only three drivers since release have been trouble-free. All the others give me occasional black or blue screens. But I'm not so quick to point the finger at the drivers. First off, all the troubled drivers become trouble-free if I raise the gpu voltage by 25mv, which is an indication of hardware "fault". Second, I do have an old PSU, an 8y old $120 pro series with 7y warranty. Which, if judged by the above standards, might as well be a $40 psu equivalent (in terms of components).
Those are just numbers.Oh yeah, like Nvidia's 12nm is better than AMD's 7nm. Jesus.
nor for the fact it keeps the VRAM at maximum frequency even when doing nothing on the desktop, just because I’m using a dual monitor configuration with 144 Hz refresh rate.
A very poor job by AMD, on the software side.
Those are just numbers.
Actually a 12 nm 2070 Super runs cooler than a 7 nm 5700XT, and faster most of the time.
But you know, AMD must be better because 7 < 12 ...
Nvidia has the technological edge over AMD in every factor.
So why did you buy a 5700XT then ? Judging by your posts, you consider it the inferior option in all regards....Those are just numbers.
Actually a 12 nm 2070 Super runs cooler than a 7 nm 5700XT, and faster most of the time.
But you know, AMD must be better because 7 < 12 ...
I have two PCs, with the same dual monitor configuration. Exactly the same monitor and software.That's normal. Nvidia have same issues. Using dual monitor will very likely raise power consumption because memory speed must be high enough to synchronize both displays. This could be solved by AMD or Nvidia by extra hardware but so few people use dual displays that they just don't bother.
I bought it in december, when it appeared to be a better solution than a 2070 Super, for 160€ less.So why did you buy a 5700XT then ? Judging by your posts, you consider it the inferior option in all regards....
Also, with your problems you could have RMA‘d it and gotten something else.
I have two PCs, with the same dual monitor configuration. Exactly the same monitor and software.
The one using a 2070 Super is scaling VRAM clock according with the workload, the one using the 5700XT is not.
And the 7nm process is "better" just because it is a smaller number. But in REAL WORLD the 5700XT runs hotter and slightly slower than the 2070 Super and its "inferior" 12nm node.
I was criticizing the information he shared. My comment was probably moderatedOh yeah, like Nvidia's 12nm is better than AMD's 7nm. Jesus.
I have two configurations with the same monitors. Exactly the same software.Also Nvidia have problems with dual monitor setups. Just because you are lucky to have setup where Nvidia works better, doesn't mean everyone has.
They are just NUMBERS. Nothing more.Not sure if...
7nm is better because it has higher transistor density, smaller power consumption and it allows higher clock speeds. In other words, 7nm 2070 would be superior against 12nm 2070. Former doesn't exist so AMD's manufacturing tech is much better. Period.
I have two configurations with the same monitors. Exactly the same software.
One is working as intended (Nvidia) the other is not (AMD).
Not to speak about black screen bug happening with the 5700XT while THE SAME SOFTWARE is working just fine on the 2070.
But keep thinking I'm just lucky.
They are just NUMBERS. Nothing more.
What it counts are results, and as far as results are involved, Nvidia GPUs are running cooler and faster.
This is the only thing that matters.
And by the way there is no "AMD's manufacturing": it is TSMC.
AMD was forced to sell every foundries to avoid bankruptcy in the past.
Like I said, Nvidia has problems with dual monitors too. Which one works better largely depends on what displays and what refresh ratios are used.
SAME SOFTWARE working differently on different hardware? Welcome to world of PC
You are still claiming completely false anecdotal evidence.
Nvidia has problems because your cousin told you so ?
I ACTUALLY own both.
With THE SAME HARDWARE (same monitors, some refresh rate of 144 Hz) and SAME SOFTWARE one is working and the other is not.
Welcome to the real world.
There have been people with NAVI "issues" that eventually found out their $40 PSU (from a decade ago) was the culprit, and swapping it for a $80 more current one fixed all their woes.
There can be other causes (of iniquitous nature) at fault for your hardware troubles. If you live in (buy from) what the corporations consider to be third a world country (legislative and cultural wise, not geographical and financial) you are likely to have a substandard, rebranded, partially defective or otherwise different components (from what is advertised on the box) product.
- My 560ti was a rebranded 400 series GPU. Died 4 moths after the warranty expired, despite the fact that for the last 8-10 months of it's life the most intense work it had thrown it's way were 1080p youtube videos. In it's 3y4m life time it only received 2 working drivers, for every other driver I had driver crash & recovery one or twice an hour plus frequent game ctd's.
- The 970 I replaced it with was either a 'cut down' version or a rebranded 700 series GPU. After civil discourse with several gamers from the western world who claimed better performance from their 960 cards, I found a local with an MSI 970 Gaming 4 G bought from ebay to pit my MSI 970 Gaming 100ME bought from the biggest PC hardware retail shop in the country and benchmark-ed the most performance heavy title this guy had in his library (GR Wildlands). Same computer, both GPU's of the same maker with identical specs.., and lo and behold, my 970 was 12% slower than his. Mine also had a bios voltage hard cap 75mv lower than his.
- My sister's 730 was running loudly at ~80% while playing youtube videos. I decided to investigate and found it was just a rebranded 705 (which is a rebranded 520). The latest driver that can be installed for it is also the last driver that supports 705 GPUs.
These are just GPU related woes, from products bought from this country. I have plenty other with monitors, CPU's and non PC products.
I also have issues with my reference 5700 (non xt). Only three drivers since release have been trouble-free. All the others give me occasional black or blue screens. But I'm not so quick to point the finger at the drivers. First off, all the troubled drivers become trouble-free if I raise the gpu voltage by 25mv, which is an indication of hardware "fault". Second, I do have an old PSU, an 8y old $120 pro series with 7y warranty. Which, if judged by the above standards, might as well be a $40 psu equivalent (in terms of components).
I generally buy Gigabyte Motherboards, and overall good quality components. I think that 90% of the problems described here are due to crappy components, usually found in budget gamng rigs......
I’m assuming you must have never used them before nor been in the industry very long if you aren’t aware of how bad Radeons windows drivers are. They crash a lot, you get strange glitches and bugs, the latest being the black screen bug, often only fixed by a hard reset. Not to mention issues installing drivers crop up. The software changes layout every 6 months which means there is barely any forum support for it and finding out how to make basic changes is a mission. It’s pretty though, so apparently that’s more important than consistency to this company.
I very recently dumped a Radeon RX580 for Geforce RTX 2080 and the difference in software is vast. Streaming in particular is so much easier on GeForce. Not to mention driver updates and looking up fixes and settings on the app. AMD have a lot of catching up to do.
As for Linux, well many of my games don’t run on Linux so I don’t bother with it. And until my games library is supported I won’t be switching. So I don’t really care if the Nvidia drivers are had for it. They are good in Windows!
My suggestion would be avoid Radeon like the plague if you’re switching to windows for your next build and you don’t want a **** experience.