As a 7900XTX buyer I would recommend the 4080. $150 more than the cheapest AIB 7900XTX for better RT, better upscaling, better driver support, and lower power draw. Available everywhere off the shelf instead of playing store stock games.
I just couldn't stomach paying $1,200 for just the GPU, even if it would have been the better long-term choice.
Would it really be the better long-term option though? I don't know what you're basing your claim on because I don't see that AT ALL. The RTX 4080 isn't
that great of a card and I don't know why you think that it is. Why do you think that the 7900 XTX was immediately embraced by the gamer community and the 4080 was immediately panned? I'll tell you why you actually made a
better long-term choice with the XTX:
I see the same issue with the RTX 4080 that I saw with the RTX 3080, the fact that it has a much smaller VRAM buffer than the Radeon equivalent. At $1,200, the RTX 4080 has only 16GB of VRAM, no more than my RX 6800 XT. I don't know why you'd find that impressive, especially when undersized VRAM buffers are not a new thing from nVidia.
Most examples of the RTX 3080 only have 10GB of VRAM, just 2GB more than the old RX 5700 XT and 6GB less than my RX 6800 XT! Now, the RTX 4080 has 16GB of VRAM while the RX 7900 XTX has 8GB more at 24GB. Sure, the RTX 4080 is more resistant to the FPS drop caused by RT but the 7900 XTX is still very usable with RT on. It actually out-paces the RTX 4080 12GB...er, the RTX 4070 Ti:
The RT advantage offered by the RTX 4080 is 16% which would be impressive if the RX 7900 XTX's performance with RT on was actually bad, but that's not the case. I don't remember anyone complaining about the RTX 3090 Ti's performance with RT on, do you? Of course not, because it was good enough that you could actually use it without sacrificing everything else while running in native mode:
The RX 7900 XTX and RTX 4080 are essentially the same overall performance in normal games (I don't consider the XTX's 4% "advantage" to be meaningful):
Then, of course, there's the fact that the RX 7900 XTX is $200USD ($268 in my native CAD language) less expensive than the RTX 4080 with a 20% advantage in performance-per-dollar. This is nothing to sneeze at:
Now, sure, I'll concede that the power use of the RTX 4080 is 13.8% less than that of the RX 7900 XTX, there's no denying that but is it really that big of a deal? Nobody seemed to care that the RX 6800 XT and RX 6900 XT were more efficient than the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. Suddenly caring about it when nVidia has that advantage is called 'moving the goal posts" and it's about as weak as an argument can get. One of JayzTwoCents' better videos is great for putting power use into perspective and does a great job of explaining why it's
not even close to being a significant criterion when buying a CPU or video card:
So, let's recap the advantages of both cards objectively because the fact that you own an XTX doesn't necessarily make you objective. Your objectively weak reasons why you think that the RTX 4080 is a better long-term choice is proof of that.
RTX 4080 Advantages for Gamers:
- 16% better RT performance than the RX 7900 XTX <- Advantage
- 13.8% more power efficient <- small advantage
- Arguably better driver support <- Big Advantage
RX 7900 XTX Advantages for Gamers:
- $200USD less expensive <- Big Advantage
- VRAM buffer is 50% larger than that of the RTX 4080 <- HUGE ADVANTAGE
- The price to performance ratio is 20% better than that of the RTX 4080 <- Advantage
- Technically 4% faster <- small advantage
small advantage = Is measurable but not significant
Advantage = Makes enough of a difference to consider it in the criteria
Big Advantage = Makes a significant difference to most people
HUGE ADVANTAGE = An advantage so large that it eclipses several others
combined
The biggest advantage to the 4080 is its availability which it has only because most people decided that the RTX 4080 wasn't worth it. The RX 7900 XTX's "Big Advantage" of price is specifically what made you pick red over green, you said so yourself. The advantages of the RX 7900 XTX far outweigh those of the RTX 4080. That's why it sold out immediately and the RTX 4080
never did. Radeon drivers haven't been problematic for years and people are finally starting to wake up to this reality. I went from HD 4870 to HD 7970 to R9 Fury to RX 5700 XT to RX 6800 XT. If I had all kinds of driver problems, I wouldn't be still using Radeon cards. If I wasn't completely happy with the performance they were capable of or the gaming experience that I was getting, I wouldn't have kept buying them. I also wouldn't be saying to buy them because I wouldn't feel right recommending anything to anyone if I had a bad experience with them. Have I had some issues? Sure, but nothing major and certainly nothing that made gaming unenjoyable. It was usually something slightly annoying like the screen scaling being too big for my display. That's the only issue big enough that I remember it.
This is why I don't recommend anything made by MSi to anyone, because once upon a time, I had a flagship MSi motherboard and to this day, it's the only motherboard that ever died on me. I replaced it with a cheap ECS motherboard that cost me about a third what the MSi board did and it still works to this day.
I see nothing here that tells me that the RTX 4080 is the better long-term choice. As a matter of fact, I see the
exact opposite when I look at that huge VRAM difference. How on Earth could you think that a video card would be a better long-term choice than a card with essentially the same performance and 50% more VRAM? VRAM is, in many ways, a long-term equalizer. If a game in the future needs more than 16GB of VRAM, the RTX 4080 will be just as useless as an RX 6800. That's because no amount of graphics horsepower can compensate for a lack of VRAM. A card with a slow GPU with enough VRAM can still run a game slowly but a card with a rocket-fast GPU without enough VRAM can't run the same game AT ALL. In this case, both cards have rocket-fast GPUs but the RX 7900 XTX will still be usable for years after the RTX 4080 is considered obsolete. More than anything else, THAT is what makes the RX 7900 XTX the better long-term choice.
I experienced this very real problem myself because while my R9 Fury has a more potent graphics engine than the RX 580, the fact that it only has 4GB of VRAM cripples it badly in games that want more than 4GB. An RX 580 with 8GB is a far more capable card than an R9 Fury in this day and age and it has nothing to do with the power of the GPU itself. Seeing your card get beat by cards with weaker GPUs just because your card doesn't have enough VRAM is a harrowing experience that makes you grind your molars in frustration. You made the better choice with the RX 7900 XTX, seemingly in spite of yourself.