AMD Ryzen 5000 launch: "Fastest gaming CPU," higher clocks, higher prices

[Lew Zealand]

So Nvidia increases prices by 50 -100 USD, you lose it.

AMD does something similar, it is reasonablie, trust us!

Just lol

Show us where people lost it when Nvidia increased prices by $50. That's a nice narrative, but it seems made up to support a preconceived opinion.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Why no 5600 or 5700x?

Profit Margin. AMD is betting on people being willing to pay for the best, so no need to release the lower end, lower margin processor options until the demand for the higher end stuff tails off. It's just business.

 

[Evernessince]

So Nvidia increases prices by 50 -100 USD, you lose it.

AMD does something similar, it is reasonablie, trust us!

Just lol

Nvidia nearly DOUBLED prices. WTF are you talking about "50-100 increase". They took the $700 1080 Ti and hiked the price to $1,200 with the 2080 Ti.

Please, not even in the same universe of price increases.

 

[quadibloc]

Uh oh.
Back in the last generation of Ryzen, only the 3950X, the 16-core chip, didn't come with a fan in the box. This time, not just the 5950X, but the 5900X and the 5800X - the 12 and 8 core parts - don't come with stock cooling.
I didn't notice that when I watched the announcement.

 

[quadibloc]

AMD price gouging hard. The 6 core model has literally doubled in price!

Going up from $249 (3600X at release) to $299 (5600X now) is literally doubling in price?

 

[Arbie]

AMD price gouging hard. The 6 core model has literally doubled in price!

Of course they have the performance advantage. And because of this I imagine I will be buying one of these juicy looking new CPUs to replace my ageing but brilliant 4790k.

Lmao to all the *****s who genuinely believed AMD would keep their low prices once they had the upper hand over Intel. These two companies are just as bad as each other.

Without AMD, Intel would be giving us worse products at higher prices. Forever. LMAO to all who bought or have fanboi'd for Intel the past few years.

 

[Puiu]

Uh oh.
Back in the last generation of Ryzen, only the 3950X, the 16-core chip, didn't come with a fan in the box. This time, not just the 5950X, but the 5900X and the 5800X - the 12 and 8 core parts - don't come with stock cooling.
I didn't notice that when I watched the announcement.

Anything past the 95W mark seems to be without a cooler. The box coolers might not be good enough to achieve the boost clocks and a 20-30$ DYI cooler might be better in both noise and cooling.

 

[Evernessince]

Anything past the 95W mark seems to be without a cooler. The box coolers might not be good enough to achieve the boost clocks and a 20-30$ DYI cooler might be better in both noise and cooling.

We'll see in testing. AMD has stated power consumption is similar so the same coolers should be able to handle these new CPUs. It might just be AMD trying to save some money. In any case it would be another value reduction for the customer.

 

[Arbie]

AMD never claimed full gaming parity with 9900k. What they did do is show a slide with the two in a few games where the performance was very close, with the Intel beating or equaling the AMD part in the majority of games shown on that slide. If you concluded from that one limited slide that the 3900x was supposed to be exactly on par in all games with the 9900k, rather than performance of the games shown, then that was a fault of yours.

You gotta realize that we have a few AMD haters here (which is the company least deserving of it). They'll seize on any factoid and spin it into a narrative of AMD deception, price-gouging etc etc.

It's in reaction to AMD - whom they long enjoyed despising - having speared one or another of their former gods.

 

[Soaptrail]

Anything past the 95W mark seems to be without a cooler. The box coolers might not be good enough to achieve the boost clocks and a 20-30$ DYI cooler might be better in both noise and cooling.

I am sure you are right, the stock coolers cannot boost high enough so do include them and it makes sense since most people do not use them on the top AMD CPU's.

 

[meric]

I'm so happy for the PC industry. On paper this new tech looks promising. I hope Intel innovates better for better products. I'm only annoyed by the fact that Ryzen 4k mobile parts did not get the attention it deserved. I wish to see AMD CPUs in more mobile products.

 

[Irata]

AMD price gouging hard. The 6 core model has literally doubled in price!

Of course they have the performance advantage. And because of this I imagine I will be buying one of these juicy looking new CPUs to replace my ageing but brilliant 4790k.

Lmao to all the *****s who genuinely believed AMD would keep their low prices once they had the upper hand over Intel. These two companies are just as bad as each other.

3600X release price was $249, 5600X is $ 299 - yup, that's double.

Not saying that I'm happy about the price was increase as a consumer, but if Ryzen is now truly better in all regards, why should AMD continue to charge budget prices ?

 

[EdmondRC]

RTX 3080 gets about 66 fps in Borderlands 3 with the same settings as the teaser there showing a big navi chip at 61fps. That's about 8% slower for the AMD card and of course says nothing for ray tracing. The interesting thing here is that the RX 5700 XT gets about 30 fps in Borderlands 3 at Ultra settings. That suggests that big navi is 80 CU, basically doubling the RX 5700 XT to achieve 4K @ 60fps. Perhaps with a slightly faster clock speed to make up the difference between the Ultra and BA settings. My guess is that the card AMD is referencing here with have between 21 to 23 TFlps of performance and will slightly outperform the RTX 3070 in most games. I think the difference between the RTX 3080 and big navi 80 CU will be larger than 8% in most games. This is in line with some of the rumors floating around. If that is AMDs top tier card, which is probably is, then AMD is still going to be competitive in the mainstream market, while Nvidia will still keep the enthusiast level advantage.

As I do plan on getting a $400-$500 range graphics card, the big question might end up being which of these cards is more power efficient. My PC has a 650 Watt PSU and even if big navi were slightly more powerful than the RTX 3070 and priced equivalently, if it takes 300+ watts to power, I'll probably end up with the RTX 3070.

 

[Maxiking]

Nvidia nearly DOUBLED prices. WTF are you talking about "50-100 increase". They took the $700 1080 Ti and hiked the price to $1,200 with the 2080 Ti.

Please, not even in the same universe of price increases.

Nearly doubled their prices? Oh please tell when they DOUBLED PRICES.

Seems like you are terrible at math and differentiating singular versus plural.



5700xt and non xt are mainstream cards, please remind me how much 580 RX and 570 RX cost?

Please remind me, why 5500xt is more costly and slower than its predecessor?

Nice try, get better at making up alternative history.

 

[Lionvibez]

These two companies are just as bad as each other.

Its not even this. The people that believed that don't understand how a business works plain and simple.

 

[Maxiking]

Wrong, here's the slides from AMD's 3000 series launch. https://www.anandtech.com/show/1440...ores-for-499-up-to-46-ghz-pcie-40-coming-77/2

Gaming wise AMD compares their CPUs to the 9700K and they make no statement about having the fastest gaming processor in the world.

AMD isn't Nvidia or Intel when it comes to charts.

You just can't stop making up and keep telling lies, can you?

JUST STOP LYING

https://imgur.com/A2XDlOI

3900X = 9900K ACCORDING TO AMD

https://imgur.com/dHaLkVu

 

[brucek]

Sounds encouraging. Can't wait for the hands-on reviews (anyone know when they will land?)

That said I am still feeling burned enough from my failed 3080 purchase process that I am feeling very skeptical and pessimistic about tech companies in general. Basically, I don't want to hear about it in other than an academic here's-our-future-roadmap way until there is general availability and shelves are stocked. I hope the press will be part of keeping the real availability date an above-the-fold item in their reporting and refuse to play along in covering "launches" that do not include a realistic process for consumers to actually obtain the launched product.

 

[neeyik]

Can't wait for the hands-on reviews (anyone know when they will land?)

First/second week of November.

 

[Privery]

I'm guessing ryzen 5000 is also pushed to the limit, you will need very good cooling to OC, but at least it seems to beat intel at default clock, which is very good news. Intel will have to innovate to recover from this.

Yeah I think somewhere on one of the slides it says that you will need an alternate cooling solution for 5800x,5900xt and 5950xt

 

[nodfor]

These prices are too high - An i7 - 10700 seems like a better budget choice for a gaming PC with decent multi threaded performance than anything offered by AMD in the next gen.

AMD is increasing prices while lowering costs by removing CPU coolers. Not cool.

 

[Maxiking]

Also since I know Amd and how heavily cpu bottlenecked Borderlands 3 is, there is a high chance their cpus perform better in mentioned games so they tested big navi with their cpus to inflate their performance so when you retest ampere with the amd cpus, big navi will look even worse because of ampere will probably gain 10-30% of the performance at FullHD, 2k.

 

[Lionvibez]

These prices are too high - An i7 - 10700 seems like a better budget choice for a gaming PC with decent multi threaded performance than anything offered by AMD in the next gen.

AMD is increasing prices while lowering costs by removing CPU coolers. Not cool.

I'm sorry a $50 increase in price shouldn't break the bank.

Find something better to complain about.

Also since I know Amd and how heavily cpu bottlenecked Borderlands 3 is, there is a high chance their cpus perform better in mentioned games so they tested big navi with their cpus to inflate their performance so when you retest ampere with the amd cpus, big navi will look even worse because of ampere will probably gain 10-30% of the performance at FullHD, 2k.

You are trying very hard to make AMD looking bad and failing at it.

 

[Maxiking]

I'm sorry a $50 increase in price shouldn't break the bank.

Find something better to complain about.



You are trying very hard to make AMD looking bad and failing at it.

You are trying very hard to make AMD look good and failing miserably.

 

[JimboJoneson]

Also since I know Amd and how heavily cpu bottlenecked Borderlands 3 is, there is a high chance their cpus perform better in mentioned games so they tested big navi with their cpus to inflate their performance so when you retest ampere with the amd cpus, big navi will look even worse because of ampere will probably gain 10-30% of the performance at FullHD, 2k.

Are you drunk? First you say that AMD lies about its gaming benchmarks, indicating that their slides are all lies, then you mention that they tested Big Navi with AMD CPUs to inflate the performance (which wasn't even given) of Big Navi, the alternative being an Intel CPU. What type of contradictory nonsense is that? You might want to just stop posting and wait for the third party reviews.

 

[nodfor]

I'm sorry a $50 increase in price shouldn't break the bank.

Find something better to complain about.

It is not just a $50 increase. Like I said you also get a cooler less. Not to mention that there is no, non - x version.
Also AMD had a habit of slashing prices on its cpus after release, if they are raising prices they might also stop doing that.

Another factor increasing cost is that support for 400 series motherboards is pushed back. So If you have a 400 series motherboard (like I do) you either have to get a new one or wait.

The moment AMD claims to have the better product (according to these charts), they just imitate former Intel pricing strategy. Not looking too good, especially considering that Intel at that time had the only competitive product, while now AMD still has competition from Intel.