"Guess what I did NOT buy skylake stuff. Not enough gain at the time to even worth the time for consideration." No one here cares what you buy, this point was about issues with new platforms. You complained about Ryzen's issues so I pointed out the obvious issues intel has had recently and in the past. I'm guessing that you don't have anything on point? " To quote you... "Assumptions!" " /facepalm Do you even know what Assumptions are? These are my words you qouted "So your spending more money, more space, and more electricity on the same amount of power and your going to tell me no one cares? Nope, you must be the only one who thinks that heat won't be an issue during the summer or that space won't be an issue. This isn't even considering that you have to buy accompanying parts for each computer as well. There is zero incentive for doing things your way and methinks you've never actually done it." and your response "Gaming comes first for me. My old machines all have all the necessary bits made up of hand-me-downs (from memory, cpu, mouse, kb, case etc.), from when I upgrade my main machine, and heat and electricity doesn't amount to much for a overnight run every now and then. I rip the blue-rays throw the content thru handbrake to compress and then put the mp4 video on the phone/tablet for the road trip. I'm sure I am not the only person that has done very mundane things like this. If I got several movies to do, I got several old machines already sitting there." I was providing a more efficient method, I couldn't care less about what your running. There is no point in my quote where an assumption is even made "I cost me essentially nothing other than a little electricity to do that." That's not true at all because those parts are worth money. You essentially are keeping ill apt parts for the job when it would be simple to eBay them and get something better. "What you've clearly shown is that you just make the assumption that everyone has workloads like you. Most people don't need a render farm like you. And it does NOT pay to spend for money for under utilized cores and threads." LOL! You just said you use handbrake to encode, WHICH DIRECTLY BENEFITS FROM MORE CORES. You are literally the dumbest person I have ever seen on TechSpot. No one is making assumptions but you and you just have no idea what you are talking about.