AMD unveils Ryzen, the official name for their next-gen CPU

Corn Zen.. nahh..
Wheat Zen.. huh uh..
Oat Zen.. nup..
Malt Zen.. uhhh..
Hop Zen..

lemme think about it over the weekend, I'm Shure we're onto sumthin' here..
and You work on the final logo.. if you can get that 'working' circle to let up for even a Minute..
 
Who else saw the name and immediately started playing "Bad Moon Rising" by CCR in their heads? Anyone?!?!?! Bad Moon Ryzen... No? Okay then...

There are few (if any) of us that would argue that competition is a bad thing. I am well aware of the limits of silicon, but I still feel like Intel has grown lazy and complacent. I have fond memories of the AMD Athlon 64 days; my 3200+ was my first build for myself. AMD really socked it to Intel with the Athlon 64, but have done little in the days since. Here's to hoping that AMD won't disappoint with "Ryzen" and we can all reap the rewards of true competition once again!

I immediately thought of "Mr mojo Ryzen" from LA Woman. lol
 
Only a 40% IPC increase? So it's got slower single core performance than the Intel 4000 series? If it is only 40% the fanboys will baulk at the games benchmarks.
 
I REALLY hope they deliver on this - the fact that the 6900 is an $1100 part is just obscene... Maybe some honest competition can start lowering the prices...

Of course, we've seen these promises before, but this looks more "promising" :)

The fact we've seen direct comparisons between Summit Ridge and the i7-6900K shows AMD is confident in their product. I think they will end up delivering.

I really do hope they can pull this off. It has been far too long since AMD has truly given intel a true run for its money, or even out-performed them; going back to the Athlon64 vs. Pentium wars when AMD beat intel simultaneously on the performance AND price fronts. It would be very gratifying to see the playing fields leveled or even tilted to favor AMD once again.
 
Who else saw the name and immediately started playing "Bad Moon Rising" by CCR in their heads? Anyone?!?!?! Bad Moon Ryzen... No? Okay then...

There are few (if any) of us that would argue that competition is a bad thing. I am well aware of the limits of silicon, but I still feel like Intel has grown lazy and complacent. I have fond memories of the AMD Athlon 64 days; my 3200+ was my first build for myself. AMD really socked it to Intel with the Athlon 64, but have done little in the days since. Here's to hoping that AMD won't disappoint with "Ryzen" and we can all reap the rewards of true competition once again!

I'm completely with on this. My sentiments exactly.
 
In short, AMD is lagging many months behind Intel in the world of top end desktop/workstation CPUs. Ryzen narrowly outperforms the i7-6900K. Price of a Ryzen CPU? Tell me again why I am supposed to be excited, absent any definite pricing info for Ryzen. A puff piece for an AMD chip.

Actually given the presentation, Ryzen does perform better than the 6900k. They were comparing a Ryzen CPU with the boost disabled to the 6900k with it's boost on and the Ryzen CPU still beat the Intel one. This is also assuming that AMD does not up the clock anymore before release. The 6900k is a $1,100, AMD's matching chip is rumored to cost $499. Not to mention Ryzen consumes less power. Ryzen is also equipped with a dynamic boost and the processor will give you extra performance when you have the thermal and voltage overhead.

So yeah, aside from cutting prices in half, being more power efficient, faster, and having new features (and not cut off and charge extra for these features like Intel).
 
Get sick of hearing about AMD is Going to Do this and beat that. Then a intel Celeron kicks its azz. They lost me along time ago
 
I'm insulted! My post on how the name " Ryzen " came about has been deleted!

Well, I guess my freedom of speech must be compromised to keep those who are easily butthurt pacified...
 
I'm insulted! My post on how the name " Ryzen " came about has been deleted!

Well, I guess my freedom of speech must be compromised to keep those who are easily butthurt pacified...

I don't know what your post said but don't you find the irony in your statement?

"I'm insulted!"
"I guess my freedom of speech must be compromised to keep those who are easily butthurt pacified"

Who exactly is the one hurt here? You come here saying your insulted and then go on to say how easily they are insulted.

Just a heads up, TechSpot is providing you a service by allowing you to comment here. They reserve the right to moderate comments. If you want completely free speech go through a public method. It's like asking NBC if you can get a TV spot to spout racism and anti-NBC rhetoric, of course they aren't going to allow that.
 
I don't know what your post said but don't you find the irony in your statement?

"I'm insulted!"
"I guess my freedom of speech must be compromised to keep those who are easily butthurt pacified"

Who exactly is the one hurt here? You come here saying your insulted and then go on to say how easily they are insulted.

Just a heads up, TechSpot is providing you a service by allowing you to comment here. They reserve the right to moderate comments. If you want completely free speech go through a public method. It's like asking NBC if you can get a TV spot to spout racism and anti-NBC rhetoric, of course they aren't going to allow that.


Your right, I apologize.
 
In short, AMD is lagging many months behind Intel in the world of top end desktop/workstation CPUs. Ryzen narrowly outperforms the i7-6900K. Price of a Ryzen CPU? Tell me again why I am supposed to be excited, absent any definite pricing info for Ryzen. A puff piece for an AMD chip.

Actually given the presentation, Ryzen does perform better than the 6900k. They were comparing a Ryzen CPU with the boost disabled to the 6900k with it's boost on and the Ryzen CPU still beat the Intel one. This is also assuming that AMD does not up the clock anymore before release. The 6900k is a $1,100, AMD's matching chip is rumored to cost $499. Not to mention Ryzen consumes less power. Ryzen is also equipped with a dynamic boost and the processor will give you extra performance when you have the thermal and voltage overhead.

So yeah, aside from cutting prices in half, being more power efficient, faster, and having new features (and not cut off and charge extra for these features like Intel).
Wow- it's almost as if we all read the same article, but somehow you ended up with way more insight than the rest of us; key word: almost. AMD has a history of exaggerating the facts. We shall see if this is another "RX 480 X-fire desroys a GTX 1080" scenario, or if AMD actually came up with a product that's better than something that was on the market three years ago... don't get that tattoo just yet.
 
Wow- it's almost as if we all read the same article, but somehow you ended up with way more insight than the rest of us; key word: almost. AMD has a history of exaggerating the facts. We shall see if this is another "RX 480 X-fire desroys a GTX 1080" scenario, or if AMD actually came up with a product that's better than something that was on the market three years ago... don't get that tattoo just yet.

And yet one is not limited to reading just this article. I did, ya know, watch the event.

Tell me how did they exactly exaggerate the fact on this? You can literally go and download the blender demo right from AMD's website and do it on your own computer. It's kind of hard to exaggerate when everyone can see the settings they used, and render the exact same thing on their current CPU to compare it to Zen.

"We shall see if this is another "RX 480 X-fire desroys a GTX 1080" scenario""

You are the one exaggerating that one. They had two RX 480s beating a 1080. Show me in the AMD marketing material where it said anything akin to what you said. By the way, that is a hell of alot better than Intel comparing its new CPUs to ones two generations old or Nvidia showing an insane performance jump with pascal and then in tiny letters "in certain games using VR". But yeah, let's pull up something AMD never said and complain about them. AMD does have a history of exaggeration, that we know. I'm basing what I said above on the facts given during the AMD presentation. 3.4 base clock on their engineering samples, dynamic turbo, SMT, Lower power draw (they had an OSD showing both the Intel and AMD power draw during the whole presentation), ect.

"... don't get that tattoo just yet."

A tattoo of what? Internet troll number 1M 307T 102 that comes into a article and assumes that other people could not possibly know more than what the article is and casts shade instead of looking the information up?
 
And yet one is not limited to reading just this article. I did, ya know, watch the event.

Tell me how did they exactly exaggerate the fact on this? You can literally go and download the blender demo right from AMD's website and do it on your own computer. It's kind of hard to exaggerate when everyone can see the settings they used, and render the exact same thing on their current CPU to compare it to Zen.

"We shall see if this is another "RX 480 X-fire desroys a GTX 1080" scenario""

You are the one exaggerating that one. They had two RX 480s beating a 1080. Show me in the AMD marketing material where it said anything akin to what you said. By the way, that is a hell of alot better than Intel comparing its new CPUs to ones two generations old or Nvidia showing an insane performance jump with pascal and then in tiny letters "in certain games using VR". But yeah, let's pull up something AMD never said and complain about them. AMD does have a history of exaggeration, that we know. I'm basing what I said above on the facts given during the AMD presentation. 3.4 base clock on their engineering samples, dynamic turbo, SMT, Lower power draw (they had an OSD showing both the Intel and AMD power draw during the whole presentation), ect.

"... don't get that tattoo just yet."

A tattoo of what? Internet troll number 1M 307T 102 that comes into a article and assumes that other people could not possibly know more than what the article is and casts shade instead of looking the information up?
I think the point being made is that AMD never offer anything new, they just offer value. Personally I'm in agreement, so far nothing AMD offer hasn't already been done some months back for more money (and usually better efficiency). I buy best value but I like to read about the bleeding edge. I will be very disappointed if the top end Ryzen falls short of the top end Intel part despite the fact that I know it's good for the consumer if it's priced competitively. I'm not reading these articles because I believe in a healthy industry I read them because I want to learn about the latest and greatest and it does seem at the moment at least that AMD hasn't made any new ground with their new tech and I struggle to find good value for money interesting to read about.
 
In short, AMD is lagging many months behind Intel in the world of top end desktop/workstation CPUs. Ryzen narrowly outperforms the i7-6900K. Price of a Ryzen CPU? Tell me again why I am supposed to be excited, absent any definite pricing info for Ryzen. A puff piece for an AMD chip.

There is nothing anyone can tell you to change your mind. You have already made it up and are one of those glass half empty people. The fact that this CPU will finally make AMD competitive after 10 years of the opposite should excite anyone. Just stick to buying Intel cpu's and save your personal bias to yourself.
 
And yet one is not limited to reading just this article. I did, ya know, watch the event.

Tell me how did they exactly exaggerate the fact on this? You can literally go and download the blender demo right from AMD's website and do it on your own computer. It's kind of hard to exaggerate when everyone can see the settings they used, and render the exact same thing on their current CPU to compare it to Zen.

"We shall see if this is another "RX 480 X-fire desroys a GTX 1080" scenario""

You are the one exaggerating that one. They had two RX 480s beating a 1080. Show me in the AMD marketing material where it said anything akin to what you said. By the way, that is a hell of alot better than Intel comparing its new CPUs to ones two generations old or Nvidia showing an insane performance jump with pascal and then in tiny letters "in certain games using VR". But yeah, let's pull up something AMD never said and complain about them. AMD does have a history of exaggeration, that we know. I'm basing what I said above on the facts given during the AMD presentation. 3.4 base clock on their engineering samples, dynamic turbo, SMT, Lower power draw (they had an OSD showing both the Intel and AMD power draw during the whole presentation), ect.

"... don't get that tattoo just yet."

A tattoo of what? Internet troll number 1M 307T 102 that comes into a article and assumes that other people could not possibly know more than what the article is and casts shade instead of looking the information up?
Once again, I can point to released and independently benchmarked products by Intel/Nvidia, while AMD fanboys keep bragging about "what's coming up next". Fact vs theory- I'm in the fact camp. This whole "just you wait 'til my big brother shows up... HE'LL back up my trash talk" on the playground is getting old. How about you guys wait to start bragging until AFTER AMD's products are released?
 
Once again, I can point to released and independently benchmarked products by Intel/Nvidia, while AMD fanboys keep bragging about "what's coming up next". Fact vs theory- I'm in the fact camp. This whole "just you wait 'til my big brother shows up... HE'LL back up my trash talk" on the playground is getting old. How about you guys wait to start bragging until AFTER AMD's products are released?

LOL, AMD fanboys, not many of those around anymore. There are just Intel fanboys and people forced to use intel because there is no competing products. It's even funnier that you seem to think I'm in the AMD camp just because I actually watched the event. Yeah, no one can know more than you so they must be a fanboy.

"Once again, I can point to released and independently benchmarked products by Intel/Nvidia"

If you had bothered to read my comment you would see that you CAN DOWNLOAD AND TEST THE FILE FOR YOURSELF. There is nothing "independent. about it. Since you are obviously lazy, I will link it for you

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon

"Fact vs theory- I'm in the fact camp."

No, you're more in the complaint camp. Your first post included zero facts as did your second.

I can backup my words because it's published all over the web

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/12/15/amds_new_ryzen_cpu_smt_ipc
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10907...nvme-neural-net-prediction-25-mhz-boost-steps
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3151...your-cpu-compares-to-amds-ryzen-for-free.html

All you've done is provide conjecture.
 
I haven't seen any conclusive proof that Ryzen is any good. AMD's claim of a 40% IPC increase worries me, it needs more than that to be competitive with Intel if you ask me. Part of me is thinking that we might get the FX series story play out again and we will get a bunch of chips that are better at multithreaded applications but suck at gaming.

If you want my honest opinion I'd predict that Ryzen won't deliver. I hope I'm wrong though.
 
If this ryzen cpu is really powerful, next gen consoles utilizing amd cpus after the 4k-capable play station and xbox will be surefire hits.
 
If this ryzen cpu is really powerful, next gen consoles utilizing amd cpus after the 4k-capable play station and xbox will be surefire hits.

Everyone benefits from AMD doing well at this point. Even if they turn out to have lower IPC they will bring prices down across the market and make more computing power accessible to those with less money. In my opinion, the best thing that can come of this is the reduced cost of a gaming rig. Right now you have to spend around $200 on an i5 to get a competent gaming machine. Hopefully AMD can bring that down to around $120.

Nothing is surefire but the fact that AMD has released their test for everyone to try is certainly of vote of confidence in their new CPUs.
 
They don't need to beat 6900k to be competitive, they only need to provide enough price to performance ratio (plus perf/watt if possible) as 6600k and 6700k (or 7600k and 7700k) and an i3 6300 budget counterpart so I think their real market is the mainstream space from which they could get more profit too
 
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