Analysis of thousands of channels reveals Telegram is flooded with criminal networks

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The big picture: It's no secret that the internet is rife with illegal and harmful content, much of it fueled by extremists and terrorist groups. But there is one online corner that has been a breeding ground for such elements, the messaging app Telegram. Noxious content is easily spread on the platform with its hands-off approach to content moderation and an unwillingness to participate with law enforcement in pursuit of criminal activity.

Last month, the enigmatic founder of Telegram, Pavel Durov was arrested in France. The 39-year-old Russian-born entrepreneur faces charges of failing to cooperate with law enforcement and complicity in crimes committed on the platform, including distribution of child sexual abuse material, drug trafficking, and fraud.

This arrest comes amid growing concerns about Telegram's role as a hub for criminal activity, extremism, and disinformation. A recent investigation by the New York Times has uncovered the extent to which the platform has become a breeding ground for illegal and harmful content.

Telegram's unique features, such as channels and supergroups, have made it an attractive platform for both legitimate users and those with nefarious intentions. At the same time, the app's determination to stay true to the principles of privacy and free speech has led to the creation of a haven for criminal enterprises, terrorist organizations, and extremist groups.

The New York Times found 1,500 channels operated by white supremacists who coordinate activities among almost one million people worldwide. Weapons are marketed by at least two dozen channels, while illegal drugs can be purchased on 22 channels offering delivery to more than 22 countries. Hamas has a significant presence on the platform with 40 channels, whose average viewership increased tenfold after the October 7 attacks, reaching more than 400 million views in October.

Telegram is "the most popular place for ill-intentioned, violent actors to congregate," Rebecca Weiner, the deputy commissioner for intelligence and counterterrorism at the New York Police Department, told the New York Times. "If you're a bad guy, that's where you will land."

Activity on some of these channels has led to real-world violence. For instance, the recent riots in Britain and arson at migrant housing centers in Ireland are thought to have originated from hateful speech on the app.

Durov has long maintained a staunch belief in minimal government interference with online communication. This philosophy has translated into a hands-off approach to content moderation, with Telegram employing only a small team of moderators – just a few hundred – compared to the thousands used by its tech peers.

The company has also frustrated authorities around the world with its reluctance to cooperate with law enforcement. One of the reasons France charged Durov with complicity in trafficking child sexual imagery was due to "an almost total lack of response" to requests for assistance, according to the chief prosecutor.

So far, the only leverage authorities can use is the threat of asking Apple or Google to remove Telegram from their app stores. The tech giants have successfully convinced the platform to remove and restrict harmful material, according to analysts, government officials, and tech executives. "The largest pressure on Telegram is not coming from governments; it's coming from Apple and Google," Durov told Tucker Carlson in an interview earlier this year.

As Telegram approaches one billion users, patience with the platform is wearing thin in many democratic countries. The European Union is exploring new oversight measures under the Digital Services Act, which could force Telegram to more aggressively police its content.

However, the arrest of Durov could well be the turning point for Telegram. Amid increasing pressure on the platform, Durov pledged to make significant improvements to content moderation in his first comments to his 12 million-plus followers after his arrest.

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Oh, wow, people who are talking to other people are committing crimes.

Maybe if every network, every phone manufacturer, your watch, your thermostat, your car, your TV.

Maybe if everything you own didn't spy on you to profit from your habits, then people might not feel a NEED for privacy.

However, the desire for private networks doesn't come from criminals, it comes from people who want to watch TV without windows AI taking snap shots of what you're doing every 3 seconds for "your assitance"
 
I bet blm is on there too
BLM, antifa, black supremacist groups, anti-hetero groups, child grooming rings, the list goes on.

Of course, those dont go against The Message (tm) so they will be left alone. This reeks of a targeted attack on Telegram from allowing privacy in a surveillance hungry world.

And despite all those things listed (and half of them are not criminal anyways, lets not normalize this) being found on every social media platform, only Telegram is being targeted. Curious.... Almost like the feds are angry telegram wont hand data over to them, so now we hear about these Horrible Criminals in Plain Sight (tm). Hmmm....
 
BLM, antifa, black supremacist groups, anti-hetero groups, child grooming rings, the list goes on.

Of course, those dont go against The Message (tm) so they will be left alone. This reeks of a targeted attack on Telegram from allowing privacy in a surveillance hungry world.

And despite all those things listed (and half of them are not criminal anyways, lets not normalize this) being found on every social media platform, only Telegram is being targeted. Curious.... Almost like the feds are angry telegram wont hand data over to them, so now we hear about these Horrible Criminals in Plain Sight (tm). Hmmm....
What is "the message"?
 
Criminals using a piece of software to commit crimes...wow...now that's something "new" huh? Oh wait, no it isn't new at all.
Things criminals use to commit crimes:
1) guns
2) cars
3) cellphones
4) knives
5) software
6) computers
7-7000) _______
Fill in the blank with whatever other everyday household item you wish
So, now what?

Telegram nor privacy are inherently evil. It's the heart of men.
 
Good job Europe, now you should make every other major platform follow exactly the same rules. Go bring Zuck and Musk in for a chat as well. If those platforms are considered clean then there is much work to do. Don't enforce selectively, do it correctly.
 
Wow, apps built for criminals are used by criminals. Shocked!

It's not "built for criminals". It's built for communication. I've been using Telegram since 2016 to stay in contact with close family. It's been a fantastic resource. We don't use it for any illegal purposes.

Criminals use cellphones constantly to plan crimes, and execute crimes. I guess the government should monitor every single telephone conversation, otherwise a crime might be committed in one out of a million conversations.

This sensibility that everybody is a priori a potential criminal is madness.
 
It's not "built for criminals". It's built for communication.
Not pointed out in this article is that, when Durov left Russia over Russia's demands he censor the network, the NY Times hailed him as a "free speech hero". Durov wasn't arrested until he refused numerous demands to place backdoors in the app to allow Western intelligence operatives to secretly spy on any and all messages.
 
Not pointed out in this article is that, when Durov left Russia over Russia's demands he censor the network, the NY Times hailed him as a "free speech hero". Durov wasn't arrested until he refused numerous demands to place backdoors in the app to allow Western intelligence operatives to secretly spy on any and all messages.

And the funny thing is, the New York Times appears in their recent article to have had no problem finding nefarious activities, without backdoors. But law enforcement doesn't want to do any real investigation, they just want unfettered access to everything, 'just in case'.
 
Platforms are never private and E2EE is a false sense of security. Remember Protonmail? Claimed to not keep ip logs but turned in one of it's users to Spanish Police. Since then Protonmail changed their wording.

I was watching a documentary where the NSA would ask companies to work with them. If the NSA exhausted all their options and the companies still refused, then they will coerce the company.
 
Platforms are never private and E2EE is a false sense of security. Remember Protonmail? Claimed to not keep ip logs but turned in one of it's users to Spanish Police. Since then Protonmail changed their wording.

I was watching a documentary where the NSA would ask companies to work with them. If the NSA exhausted all their options and the companies still refused, then they will coerce the company.

On the website of the Dutch Police you'll find a page that goes on about tapping when there's a court warrant. So the police is able to "realtime" track / listen to your calls but also communication such as email, whatsapp and such. the last one is interesting since the police claims to be able to view or live watch (video) calls you make.

Now how in the world would E2E allow for such a thing? Unless Meta as a whole is coerced and there are indeed legal backdoors at the end of meta. I mean why would they want to burn their application or user base over maybe 100's 200's "bad" puppets on that platform right?

Nothing is safe from digital communication.
 
On the website of the Dutch Police you'll find a page that goes on about tapping when there's a court warrant. So the police is able to "realtime" track / listen to your calls but also communication such as email, whatsapp and such. the last one is interesting since the police claims to be able to view or live watch (video) calls you make.

Now how in the world would E2E allow for such a thing? Unless Meta as a whole is coerced and there are indeed legal backdoors at the end of meta. I mean why would they want to burn their application or user base over maybe 100's 200's "bad" puppets on that platform right?

Nothing is safe from digital communication.
Money and favors carry weight too. We never know what transpires behind closed doors. I believe the internet was never meant to be private.
 
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Criminals using a piece of software to commit crimes...wow...now that's something "new" huh? Oh wait, no it isn't new at all.
Things criminals use to commit crimes:
1) guns
2) cars
3) cellphones
4) knives
5) software
6) computers
7-7000) _______
Fill in the blank with whatever other everyday household item you wish
So, now what?

Telegram nor privacy are inherently evil. It's the heart of men.
I always thought they should ban computers too! Its just a glorified crime machine! :D
 
How can people complain about lack of privacy and then condemn apps like this one that actually gives you just that? The downside of an app that is private and secure is that it can absolutely be used by criminals, duh! Who cares?
victims care
 
And communist are allowed to operate out in the open. Says a lot about our society. White nationalists aren't anymore worse than Marxists.
 
So, how is it then that American platforms do not have it?
Actually, I recall FB had a vast network of illegal porn trade.
I have not heard what they did to end it.

I presume, they simply run automated tools, reading every message every user sends
for specific terms. Then they report it to authorities.

If you do not think this is what they do, give your own guess.
 
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