Analyst says it's Samsung's fault the iPhone 8 will be so expensive

[yRaz]

Further responses from you will be ignored. Reason: Your rhetoric is boring and uninspired.



Everybody prices their products like that. That's literally the point of figuring out the demand curve of a product.

As for how anyone could say it's not price gouging...For it to be price gouging it has to be sudden, significant, and be uncorrelated to changes in demand. None of those conditions are met for the following three reasons:

1. The pricing isn't sudden (the iPhone 8's price has literally never been priced before and it was announced at a scheduled date).
2. There has been no significant price increase to the iPhone 8 (costing more than another model isn't an increase in a previous price for the model in question).
3. Real demand for the iPhone 8 hasn't been determined yet, as it isn't yet available for purchase.

Definitions matter.

What you mean to say, and what I agree with, is that the iPhone 8 is overpriced for what it brings to the table. But you and I are clearly not the market they are targeting. If people have a different value equation than I do, that's no more reason to judge them ("***** fan base") for their heresy than judging someone for being fat because I think people should look attractive. Your body, your choice, as it were. Same with money.

There is a whole market out there who has different values. All this means is that Apple won't get my money.

For the people in that market... I hope you enjoy your phone/fashion accessory.

You know, you say that you think the idea of a $1000 phone is ridiculous but you're trying awfully hard to defend it. There will be a tear down once the phone is released and they'll tell us the bill of materials.

And I judge people for being fat. If you don't care about your body then you probably don't care about anything else making you a s*tty person. And on that note, if you don't care about your money then you're probably also a s*tty person.

 

[OneSpeed]

Did you mean Demand-Pull and Cost-Push forces of the consumers' stupidity?

Further responses from you will be ignored. Reason: Your rhetoric is boring and uninspired.

They know their ***** fan base will pay it so they charge it.

Everybody prices their products like that. That's literally the point of figuring out the demand curve of a product.

As for how anyone could say it's not price gouging...For it to be price gouging it has to be sudden, significant, and be uncorrelated to changes in demand. None of those conditions are met for the following three reasons:

1. The pricing isn't sudden (the iPhone 8's price has literally never been priced before and it was announced at a scheduled date).
2. There has been no significant price increase to the iPhone 8 (costing more than another model isn't an increase in a previous price for the model in question).
3. Real demand for the iPhone 8 hasn't been determined yet, as it isn't yet available for purchase.

Definitions matter.

What you mean to say, and what I agree with, is that the iPhone 8 is overpriced for what it brings to the table. But you and I are clearly not the market they are targeting. If people have a different value equation than I do, that's no more reason to judge them ("***** fan base") for their heresy than judging someone for being fat because I think people should look attractive. Your body, your choice, as it were. Same with money.

There is a whole market out there who has different values. All this means is that Apple won't get my money.

For the people in that market... I hope you enjoy your phone/fashion accessory.

Further responses from you will be ignored. Reason: Your rhetoric is boring and uninspired.



Everybody prices their products like that. That's literally the point of figuring out the demand curve of a product.

As for how anyone could say it's not price gouging...For it to be price gouging it has to be sudden, significant, and be uncorrelated to changes in demand. None of those conditions are met for the following three reasons:

1. The pricing isn't sudden (the iPhone 8's price has literally never been priced before and it was announced at a scheduled date).
2. There has been no significant price increase to the iPhone 8 (costing more than another model isn't an increase in a previous price for the model in question).
3. Real demand for the iPhone 8 hasn't been determined yet, as it isn't yet available for purchase.

Definitions matter.

What you mean to say, and what I agree with, is that the iPhone 8 is overpriced for what it brings to the table. But you and I are clearly not the market they are targeting. If people have a different value equation than I do, that's no more reason to judge them ("***** fan base") for their heresy than judging someone for being fat because I think people should look attractive. Your body, your choice, as it were. Same with money.

There is a whole market out there who has different values. All this means is that Apple won't get my money.

For the people in that market... I hope you enjoy your phone/fashion accessory.

You know, you say that you think the idea of a $1000 phone is ridiculous but you're trying awfully hard to defend it. There will be a tear down once the phone is released and they'll tell us the bill of materials.

And I judge people for being fat. If you don't care about your body then you probably don't care about anything else making you a s*tty person. And on that note, if you don't care about your money then you're probably also a s*tty person.

Did you mean Demand-Pull and Cost-Push forces of the consumers' stupidity?

Further responses from you will be ignored. Reason: Your rhetoric is boring and uninspired.

They know their ***** fan base will pay it so they charge it.

Everybody prices their products like that. That's literally the point of figuring out the demand curve of a product.

As for how anyone could say it's not price gouging...For it to be price gouging it has to be sudden, significant, and be uncorrelated to changes in demand. None of those conditions are met for the following three reasons:

1. The pricing isn't sudden (the iPhone 8's price has literally never been priced before and it was announced at a scheduled date).
2. There has been no significant price increase to the iPhone 8 (costing more than another model isn't an increase in a previous price for the model in question).
3. Real demand for the iPhone 8 hasn't been determined yet, as it isn't yet available for purchase.

Definitions matter.

What you mean to say, and what I agree with, is that the iPhone 8 is overpriced for what it brings to the table. But you and I are clearly not the market they are targeting. If people have a different value equation than I do, that's no more reason to judge them ("***** fan base") for their heresy than judging someone for being fat because I think people should look attractive. Your body, your choice, as it were. Same with money.

There is a whole market out there who has different values. All this means is that Apple won't get my money.

For the people in that market... I hope you enjoy your phone/fashion accessory.

Logo says it all. Your reasoning seems to justify the "anal"ysts column.

 

[captaincranky]

Far from it.

Well his report does 'absolve' Apple from guilt on the iPhone price hike.

Butt then, Samsung does want to keep Apple's phone prices up, so they can sell more of theirs.

Which means, Apple needs to build its own fab for OLED. (Perish the thought).

As I said in another post, 'I thought Foxconn was the former 2nd largest supplier of smartphones'. How quickly people forget.

I fail to see why Americans confer so much status on owning an iPhone, when in reality, Apple is nothing but a glorified importer. Most to all electronics firms are as well. Apple does though, pull off the most profitable hoax.

Samsung at least, is forthright and honest about it. Nobody in their right mind is going to believe, 'Samsung' is from Wisconsin.

 

[seeprime]

Five years ago Apple was awarded 1.05 billion US dollars for Samsung infringing on their design patents. Payback is a bee-yatch.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I love how people are already commenting on this as if it's fact.... the iPhone hasn't even been released yet people!!!

Yes, it will probably be bloody expensive.... news flash... IT ALREADY WAS!!!! The 7+, which is the closest comparison we have to the "new iPhone" (let's not forget there are rumored to be 3 different versions, only the top end of which will be $1000) starts at $769 for 32GB....

This year's "top of the line" iPhone's rumored lowest storage point will be 64GB.... Apple has already shown that to double one's storage costs about $100 (to the consumer that is!!), so let's say $870.... now let's not forget that this year's 7+ will actually correspond to this year's "middle of the line" iPhone (there will be 3, not 2 this year). So following Apple's normal procedure, we'd be adding another $100.... Leading to $970....

Now we look at the increased cost of OLED screens from Samsung.... to make the iPhone $1000, we're only adding $30.... Not exactly unreasonable...

Yes, the new iPhone is expensive.... Let's not forget that the Galaxy Note starts at $930.... and they make their own OLED screens...

Lastly... Apple isn't blaming Samsung for the price hike!!! This was from an analyst!!! Apple hasn't even released the price yet!

 

[davislane1]

You know, you say that you think the idea of a $1000 phone is ridiculous but you're trying awfully hard to defend it.

I think Titans are ridiculous, too. That doesn't mean I run around taking a s**t on people who think differently about it.

If you don't care about your body then you probably don't care about anything else making you a s*tty person.

This reasoning is faulty. Faulty reasoning is what I've been attacking in this thread.

There will be a tear down once the phone is released and they'll tell us the bill of materials.

And, when they do, Samsung et. al.'s marketing divisions will kick back, relax, and congratulate each other on a job well done.

This is all a game, and those who don't think they're playing along are typically the pawns. When bill of goods articles hit, watch the comment sections. Look at how many people trash Apple and encourage people to buy different products all without collecting a single commission.The only affiliate links will be in the article body and everybody in the comments on the Apple hate train (or the Apple bandwagon) is going to act like they're informed while providing free sales copy to billion dollar corporations.

...which brings me back to item No.6 (again):

People are willing to pay more for exclusive items. All these people who rag on Apple for selling overpriced, gimped smartphone products aren't hurting the brand. They're distinguishing it from nerd culture, tech culture (associated with nerd culture), and making it appear out of reach of the average Joe ("too expensive" and thus exclusive).

In other words, they're providing incentive to Apple's target demographic (non-techie smartphone users with a propensity for vanity) to purchase the iPhone 8. And they're doing it...for free.

 

[OneSpeed]

Now Apple didn't have to decide and use the Samsung OLEDs, but their LEDs wasn't going to keep up with the flagship phones out there. Apple has to pay a premium on sourced screens as they don't own the patents or manufacturing on this tech. In the end, Apple users should, and will pay whatever the price that it is sold at.

 

[Nobina]

What's the big deal? If you buy anything Apple your wallets getting ****ed either way.

 

[captaincranky]

....[ ]...Lastly... Apple isn't blaming Samsung for the price hike!!! This was from an analyst!!! Apple hasn't even released the price yet!

Right, an "analyst", who was more than likely paid under the table by Apple, to function as an "apologist".

And now everybody will remember it isn't 'poor Apple', raising the price on the new phones, it's that mean old nasty Samsung.

Apple really isn't squat, other than a glorified importer. Yet everybody is sucked into he concept that Apple makes the iPhone. Wake the f*** up, Foxconn makes the iPhone, and Apple imports it.

The moral of the story here is, Samsung knows Apple will fleece every penny it can out of the iSheep, and Samsung decided to give Apple its own, well deserved, shearing.

What comes around, goes around.

 

[Kenrick]

What really set apart Apple from samsung and many other brands is the seamless integration and execution of features. The touch id was excellent compared to phones that even touted they are the first to have fingerprint in phones. Applepay became the norm in contactless paying. Dual cameras, applepods, they were great and not half baked features. This is why the iphone, ipad and macbook is always used as a comparison to other competitor's product. Now bloody hell the problem is that they seem expensive. If you cant afford the flagship phone then stop looking and move on. the apple haters bandwagon is better at typing in comments section. Say all you want but this will be the product samsung and others will try to beat and imitate again. Harharhar! Bring on the hate!