Anti-piracy legislation passes Senate committee

TomSEA

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"I get that pirating is in general wrong."

No, not "in general." It's stealing, plain and simple - there's no explanation you can come up with to explain that away.
 

Relic

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It's a lame duck session and the entertainment industry is just trying to push it through quietly as COICA is a clear violation of our First Amendment right. An online censorship bill is simply too slippery of a slop to go down, and I don't see this getting by both Senate and Congress especially with the current agenda they are working on before January. Seems so hypocritical of the industry who complains to high heaven if anything government wise comes close to them, but oh no when they can't figure out how to adapt to the 21st century and move along to a new business model they have a tantrum and crawl on back to big government. They have enough laws in place to get the job done, they just want more.
 
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TomSEA "I get that pirating is in general wrong."

No, not "in general." It's stealing, plain and simple - there's no explanation you can come up with to explain that away.

Again... In one tv report im sure they said, that mr p2p put more back into the system than mr straight like you tom. They bought more stuff than you tom. They made the world go around more tom. Making torrents not straight out piracy tom, its not black and white tom.
But if you dont get that stick out of your ***... then the senate dont. And if they pass this bill, then your stupid american government who love to sell their weapons to countries like afghanistan and iraq, are going to give them extra means here to send lil lackys to your streets, and your ***** citizens who must go to class or work and say "hey guess what i bought from some guy down the road...yeah ive seen harry potter first"

Have you seen how people simple reply "first" to a post on some articles on teh web. Why ? 1st post ? 1st comment ? Article read and commented by me 1st ? Thats how stupid people are, its irrelevant and lame but this is the state of humans today, dumb.
So the bill passes, and someone buys instead from some gang or some terrorist as we are led to believe will happen and the streets are less safe. Thank you tom Thank you so much for making the world a much scarier place. Coz when that ***** at work says 1st, the 2nd (post if u like) will be that stray gang bullet or that explosive device in a school. And all thanks to TOM.

Torrents and p2p are not black and white piracy. But take it down and you could be causing more harm than good. You seem to be missing that point. Are they losing money and businesses and **** failing ? possibly, but its a world recession on at the moment thanks to the skills of banks, and fat cats, using statistics like the ones they used for this bill. Everyone lives in debt, on credit cards, on plastic. Spending money that doesnt exist on **** they usually dont need.

When you sort out the bigger problems, the ones of more concern, then maybe you can see the true effects of p2p. Your government needs to get its priorities sorted. As do all on this planet.
 
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"I get that pirating is in general wrong."

Tomsea...No, not "in general." It's stealing, plain and simple - there's no explanation you can come up with to explain that away.

It's not stealing dude... Stealing is to take a physical product of which I did not. It's digital. It is not physical so hence it can not be stealing. I don't care what explanation you come up with but you are wrong. You been hanging out with you RIAA buddies to much. Go back to counting your money and preach your falsehood to people who actually care what you think.
 

PanicX

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Have you seen how people simple reply "first" to a post on some articles on teh web. Why ? 1st post ? 1st comment ? Article read and commented by me 1st ? Thats how stupid people are, its irrelevant and lame but this is the state of humans today, dumb.
So the bill passes, and someone buys instead from some gang or some terrorist as we are led to believe will happen and the streets are less safe. Thank you tom Thank you so much for making the world a much scarier place. Coz when that ***** at work says 1st, the 2nd (post if u like) will be that stray gang bullet or that explosive device in a school. And all thanks to TOM.
Hahahaha.
Oh sweet irony.
 
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really? you must be a shill. The copyright law say nothing about earnings, income or profits. ONLY DISTRIBUTION. At best your talking tresspass. Goes to show what happens when the locals drink the cool aid and don't read the packaging.
 
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grrrrr wrong reply link. sorry about that, it's supposed to be a reply to tom i work for the entertainment industry.
 
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If i could not download what i want when i want i would have no need for my expensive internet connection....if only the tv film game music makers would charge a reasonable price and release content as and when they can instead of waiting a year....i mean i pay a high tv package go cinemas and buy games that i like so i am more than paying for what content i do download.
 
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Hah - and nobody notices that if the US is going to start doing it, how do you stop countries like China et al from pulling down websites *koffUSgovtagencykoff* that are "illegal" to them? Don't they have the same right to stop "illegal" websites "promoting unrest" and "inciting riots" too?

And then the US is going to protest, and wonder why the hell everybody else is laughing their heads off.
 

Zecias

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this is such a waste of money......... there are much more important things to worry about. stop worrying about piracy and start worrying about the 14 trillion dollar debt.
 

captaincranky

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Hah - and nobody notices that if the US is going to start doing it, how do you stop countries like China et al from pulling down websites *koffUSgovtagencykoff* that are "illegal" to them? Don't they have the same right to stop "illegal" websites "promoting unrest" and "inciting riots" too?

And then the US is going to protest, and wonder why the hell everybody else is laughing their heads off.
Most government are formed via revolution, (as was the US government)..

Governments thus formed, make it their very first priority to make revolution against that government illegal.

To summarize, I would say that, "hypocrisy is the cornerstone of democracy". I don't get where anybody could labor under the delusion that, "freedom is the cornerstone of democracy"
 
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Good Luck big brother. They`ve been fight this ever since cassette and vcr tapes\recorders
came out. Sampling software/music/movies has increased sale of said data. Tell me why bother
playing new songs on the radio then? It`s easy to record off the radio\tv. Everyone been doing this for over 30years.Nothing new and all that is going to happen is BBS (bullitin boards) and newsgroup sites will have that. You don`t need p2p sites\software. Just takes a bit longer to find.
 
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I agree with TomSEA.

The word piracy itself says it all - it's a crime. But somehow people manage to justify this unfair behavior. I choose to buy all of my music/software/etc because real people are paid to make this stuff, and deserve the money for the work they put in.
 
this is ridiculous, they should stop sales of pirated dvd's
and let movies on the internet be free,they cannot cencership/ father the internet
its like taking candy from a baby.

why the hell should i pay to get on the internet ,and everything is cencership/fathered
If it was'nt for the internet ,Id probably be out in the city gettting drunk causing trouble
and who knows what could happen.

id rather be having fun, watching movies talking to friends online and playing multiplayer video games
and keeping my self out of trouble.
 
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frum ravingmaniac:

How does a judges decision work in this case?
The judge who decreed that downloading a pirate copy is the same as borrowing a copy?
Oar was that not true?