A 20% increase in geekbench scores do not equal 20% performance gains or even close in software used to play games or to do work. Additionally a phone that scores the same as a PC will not be able to do the same amount of work as a PC is capable. A 10% improvement in Geek bench scores between two similar computers again don't equal that same amount of performance gains in real world performance.While Geekbench is far from the definitive word on performance, it does relate to real world performance. There is not a single example of a processor that scores high on Geekbench that does not also often perform well on numerous CPU intensive tasks.
And those mobile cores can do the same amount of work as desktop cores. Feel free to peruse Andrei Frumusanu’s and Dr. Ian Cutress’s articles on Anandtech from 2018 through 2021 to see detailed data.
In fact Apple uses the identical cores throughout their mobile and desktop product stack, usually clocking them 10 to 20 percent higher on their top desktops where they run cross-platform software at similar top speeds as Intel and AMD’s flagship CPUs.
The recognition of this means many sites will continue to do articles on Geekbench results. People who want to avoid the reality of what these cores can do don’t have to click on them.
Everytime I got excited about something Apple was doing I was always let down. If Apple ever gets serious about gaming it will be with piles of titles and not just a few and not on a tiny display.The other thing that’s exciting is the new GPU with ray tracing, mesh shading and other features. It seems that Apple will focus its time and attention on the new GPU architecture and it’s adding hardware features found in RDNA3/Lovelace. It appears to me that Apple is laying the ground work for establishing Macintosh as a gaming platform. It’ll be interesting to see what the new GPU will be in M3 Max.
Like or dislike Apple, you have to agree that it is implementing some seriously cool technology, all aboard the 3 nanometer express.
Following that logic, why do we have Computers when Super Computers are even more powerful and can do even more work?If a phone can do as much work as geekbench says why do we still had desktops?
And this would be useful for....What exactly?
It would never compare to the amount of popular platforms such as PC or PS.Everytime I got excited about something Apple was doing I was always let down. If Apple ever gets serious about gaming it will be with piles of titles and not just a few and not on a tiny display.
You must have misread what I wrote: "as much work as geekbench says..." That's what I said. If geekbench scores for a mobile phone are close to that of a high-end PC then why are we using PCs? Either geekbench scores don't mean anything or mobile phones are more powerful than previous generation high-end computers (not at all likely to ever be true). I'll be more clear: the point I was making was that geekbench scores don't mean anything especially when comparing a mobile phone with a mobile phone OS to a desptop using a desktop OS, they aren't comparable at all.Following that logic, why do we have Computers when Super Computers are even more powerful and can do even more work?
I think you're getting form factors and processing power mixed up.You must have misread what I wrote: "as much work as geekbench says..." That's what I said. If geekbench scores for a mobile phone are close to that of a high-end PC then why are we using PCs? Either geekbench scores don't mean anything or mobile phones are more powerful than previous generation high-end computers (not at all likely to ever be true). I'll be more clear: the point I was making was that geekbench scores don't mean anything especially when comparing a mobile phone with a mobile phone OS to a desptop using a desktop OS, they aren't comparable at all.
I think you're getting form factors and processing power mixed up.
Just because a Phone has as much processing power as a PC, doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.
The form factor of a mobile is useless for Excel spreadsheets for example.
But since the phone has the power to run modern games and output to a TV, it's much easier to plug your phone into the TV, Bluetooth a controller and play a game, while a PC you'll need to lug the thing over to your TV.
So your only point is that Geekbench is pointless? And particularly pointless when comparing the results to different form factors?"Just because a Phone has as much processing power as a PC" I never said that. I said geekbench was saying it.
I also wrote: I'll be more clear: "the point I was making was that geekbench scores don't mean anything especially when comparing a mobile phone with a mobile phone OS to a desptop using a desktop OS, they aren't comparable at all."
Well this is what you get for assuming. Don't confuse objectivity with hate. It's just a software product some people use, it didn't kick my dog or insult my mother.So your only point is that Geekbench is pointless? And particularly pointless when comparing the results to different form factors?
Ok?
I assume you have a particular hatred for Geekbench? Hey you do you man, I see a lot of people hate Geekbench, I'll join the "hate Geekbench" brigade as well! I don't care![]()
Very confused also, this is an incredible achievement but written as if its a negative.I'm confused by the frequency comments. Either the A17 is doing 90% of the same work at ~60% of the frequency, in which case the lower frequency is probably a feature (efficiency) not a bug; or the 90% part only holds if you artificially limit the other CPUs to A17's much lower frequency (in which case it is a very misleading comparison.)
Which is it?
Which is why it would work fine for doing spreadsheets also. Not sure about Apple but Samsung has DeX which turns it into a multitasking desktop like environment.I think you're getting form factors and processing power mixed up.
Just because a Phone has as much processing power as a PC, doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.
The form factor of a mobile is useless for Excel spreadsheets for example.
But since the phone has the power to run modern games and output to a TV, it's much easier to plug your phone into the TV, Bluetooth a controller and play a game, while a PC you'll need to lug the thing over to your TV.