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Apple has a kill switch for unauthorized repairs in new Macs, but it hasn't been activated...

By mongeese · 37 replies
Oct 7, 2018
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  1. Agnomen

    Agnomen TS Enthusiast Posts: 16   +14

    The only legitimate use I could think of for a "kill switch" in an electronic device is if it is reported stolen. Other than that, this sounds like more anti-consumer nonsense that has been steadily eroding the industry for years.
     
  2. EClyde

    EClyde TS Evangelist Posts: 1,592   +572

    What better place? Truth is hard
     
  3. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 825   +266

    What's the point of having a background in IT if I can't fix stuff?
     
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  4. GregonMaui

    GregonMaui TS Enthusiast Posts: 83   +22

    So first, the articles got it all wrong and all the haters and tin foil hatters went all berserker. Now a new unverified speculation. And more berserkers.

    How about actually writing an article based on verified facts? I guess it is so much more fun to make up a bunch of %&*T(.

    Bottom line, we really do not know what the point, intent or impact of this "policy" is. But boy are we having fun wondering what it might be
     
  5. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,401   +359

    I'm confused. You say we don't know what the intent is, but somehow you are absolutely certain that the article got it all wrong? That's some magical logic there. How about writing an article based on facts, you say? OK, let's review:

    Fact: Apple's own internal documents indicate that there is a "kill switch" option to prevent 3rd party repairs. The existence of such documentation is what prompted reporting of articles like this one. Again, Apple's own internal communications, not wild external rumormongers making crap up.

    Fact: The "kill switch" does not seem to be active yet. It's supposedly there somewhere, but doesn't appear to have any effect on 3rd party repairing as of yet.

    Fact: We have no idea what Apple is really planning on doing, if that kill switch will be used, etc. The article is obviously some conjecture and guessing on motives, which the writer does not pass off as fact in any way.

    Fact: Apple declined to comment in addressing this situation. Sometimes silence is golden, sometimes silence is damning.
     
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  6. GregonMaui

    GregonMaui TS Enthusiast Posts: 83   +22

    And lets not forget, deletes your data
     
  7. GregonMaui

    GregonMaui TS Enthusiast Posts: 83   +22

    iFixit proved Apple is not bricking computers. No statement from Apple, so the rest is speculation. Google the word

    "Fact: Apple's own internal documents indicate that there is a "kill switch" option to prevent 3rd party repairs. The existence of such documentation is what prompted reporting of articles like this one. Again, Apple's own internal communications, not wild external rumormongers making crap up." this is someone making crap up, the internal document says the repair is not complete until some software is run. Never mentions "kill switch", never ,mentions to prevent 3rd party repairs.

    "Fact: We have no idea what Apple is really planning on doing, if that kill switch will be used, etc. The article is obviously some conjecture and guessing on motives, which the writer does not pass off as fact in any way." Exactly!
     
  8. dms96960

    dms96960 TS Guru Posts: 314   +72

    Your post makes it obvious that my ordinary Windows PC is much superior to your MacBook grammar checker.
     
  9. Lew Zealand

    Lew Zealand TS Addict Posts: 199   +145

    Love to watch the mudslinging here, especially when it goes off the rails into spelling/grammar and all that crap.

    This looks like a **** move by Apple and as long as the internet gets its panties in enough of a wad about it and yells bloody murder, Apple will feel the pressure and maybe (probably?) not do the kill switch. For a while.

    We'll see.
     
  10. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,401   +359

    Did I not say that the "kill switch" feature is not active yet? And did I not say farther down that this was conjecture and guessing on motives for the entire situation? Why yes, I did, and you even quoted me on that. So a condescending "Google the word" comment is just being trite and petty.

    There is a reason "kill switch" is in quotes. It's not an actual item, but the exact process you mention (conveniently without details) has the same effect. If you are a 3rd party repair facility that does not have the privilege of having the proprietary Apple software you mentioned that MUST be run to consider the repair complete, then the system will effectively be bricked. When/if this feature is ever enabled. That is the very definition of a way to "prevent 3rd party repairs."

    As an analogy, It would be like taking your BMW to a local shop and having it worked on, only to find that it won't start because the shop was not a dealership, so it didn't have the special dongle that had to be connected to the car's computer system to finish the repair. If BMW put out an internal memo to their dealerships saying that only people with their magic dongles could repair BMWs in the future, don't you think it would raise some red flags? Apple doesn't get a pass on questionable motives just because they are Apple.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2018
  11. Fearghast

    Fearghast TS Booster Posts: 33   +29

    A way to solve right to repair.
    You can't, what right?
     
  12. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 12,367   +1,390

    Don't bother preaching to the inept - - they'll never change.
    Don't confuse me with the facts - - my mind is made up ​
    :sigh:
     
  13. mark kram

    mark kram TS Enthusiast Posts: 32   +6

    I build my own computers and the one I'm using now was able to beat anything Apple or PC manufacturers had to offer when I built it. In fact, manufacturers including Apple are just beginning to meet the amount of memory I've used for 8 years. All the computers I've built are windows based.
     

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